Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:32:13 -0700, Joseph wrote: You don't need to change grub.conf to reboot with different options, just press e and edit the options in place. When I try to boot I'm getting an error: VFS: Can not open device hda3 or unknown block (0,0): error -6 You can change GRUB settings from the GRUB menu, before you try to boot the kernel, press e as in my previous post. It seems you are getting into a mess with the systemd switch and trying all sorts of things at random. The old rule of when you find yourself in a hold, stop digging applies here. Stop making changes in the hope of getting things working, when you could be making them worse to the extent that your system will still be broken when you fix the original problem. Go back to the systemd wiki page and follow it carefully, making sure you both understand and complete each step, otherwise I see things getting worse for you. -- Neil Bothwick Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] genkernel-next will not mount /usr but genkernel will
Hi folks. I wanted to switch to using genkernel-next instead of genkernel so eventually I could switch to using systemd. However genkernel-next-50 will not mount my /usr file system. I have everything on lvm volumes, except my /boot which is a regular partition. With the regular genkernel /usr is mounted, but I can't even test systemd bedcause it looks for realinit before /usr is even mounted. My genkernel command line is: genkernel --no-clean --no-splash --lvm --e2fsprogs --kerneldir=/usr/src/linux-3.6.2-gentoo initramfs Now when I use genkernel-next, it would not mount /usr because it said no such file or directory -- I guess its mount point -- not sure of that. It would not execute udev because it said there was a missing library. So, how can this be fixed? Is there a bug in genkernel-next? Thanks in advance for any ideas. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Tcp Listener
Maybe I miss your problem.But there is a command line program names 'netcat', which can send/receive TCP/UDP messages. also would be nice to check its source code if you are interested to writing your own. 2014-02-04 xarman manousidis@gmail.com: I'm interested in making a TCP Listener in C / C++ on Linux to accept many connections simultaneously. I did a relative search on the Web and although I am aware of the C language as to a certain extent, I struggle to find a model program. Essentially, it is the listener of a server that receives a signal and stores it in a database and do some other functions. I know how to do the functions but I'm looking for a way to fix the basic skeleton of listener that will be always active. I'm not sure if I need multi threading or multi socketing for multi connections. If you have any knowledge on the subject or have a simple example or even some reference in order to work on that, I'd appreciate it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user
On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote: On 02/05/14 20:30, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/14 17:00, walt wrote: On 02/05/2014 04:32 PM, Joseph wrote: Kerel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(O,0) Could that be the letter O instead of the digit 0? No, it is 0 I double checked. Could it be that the hard drive is going? I don't think so. Could you show us your GRUB configuration? Regards. Here it is: grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 title Gentoo Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3 Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3? No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the old deprecated IDE subsystem. His fstab refers to drives as hd? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Is VLAN configuration manual section up to date?
On 2014-02-06, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 5 February 2014 15:58:22 CET, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2014-02-05, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 4 February 2014 22:27:03 CET, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: Are the VLAN configuration docs up to date? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=3#doc_chap10 The reason I ask is that the Gentoo docs talk about using vconfig, while other distros have dropped vconfig and now use the ip2route packages 'ip' command instead: [...] Does Gentoo not have issues with udev trying to automagically rename vlan network interfaces as described in the Arch Linux page? I disabled the udev device name randomizer to ensure I keep the eth* names. (I use bonding for the interfaces, don't care about the names as long as they all end up in the same bond) Rather than bond them together, I'm going to use them as separate interfaces. I'm looking for a way to have 8 to 16 Ethernet interfaces on some cheap old desktop machines. Connecting the motherboard Ethernet interface to an external managed VLAN switch seems like the way to go. So I do care what the names are -- we'll see what tricks udev tries to play. If you only have 1 interface, disable udevs randomizer and use eth0. Good idea. The machines currently have two interfaces, but if the vlan+switch setup works, then I can pull the second NIC out. When configuring the vlans you can set the names in the config. Great! Thanks. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! over in west at Philadelphia a puppy is gmail.comvomiting ...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user
On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote: ---8 Here it is: grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 title Gentoo Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3 Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3? No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the old deprecated IDE subsystem. His fstab refers to drives as hd? Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?) Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch to the latest thing in init systems. Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go through his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally bring the box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas. (Sorry Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!) I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was superseded and deprecated? -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is VLAN configuration manual section up to date?
On 6 February 2014 15:31:58 CET, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2014-02-06, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 5 February 2014 15:58:22 CET, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2014-02-05, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 4 February 2014 22:27:03 CET, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: Are the VLAN configuration docs up to date? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=3#doc_chap10 The reason I ask is that the Gentoo docs talk about using vconfig, while other distros have dropped vconfig and now use the ip2route packages 'ip' command instead: [...] Does Gentoo not have issues with udev trying to automagically rename vlan network interfaces as described in the Arch Linux page? I disabled the udev device name randomizer to ensure I keep the eth* names. (I use bonding for the interfaces, don't care about the names as long as they all end up in the same bond) Rather than bond them together, I'm going to use them as separate interfaces. I'm looking for a way to have 8 to 16 Ethernet interfaces on some cheap old desktop machines. Connecting the motherboard Ethernet interface to an external managed VLAN switch seems like the way to go. So I do care what the names are -- we'll see what tricks udev tries to play. If you only have 1 interface, disable udevs randomizer and use eth0. Good idea. The machines currently have two interfaces, but if the vlan+switch setup works, then I can pull the second NIC out. When configuring the vlans you can set the names in the config. Great! Thanks. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! over in west at Philadelphia a puppy is gmail.comvomiting ... If the switch supports bonding, use that as well. I have 4 interfaces in a single bond. On that bond I have the vlans configured. Helps with the throughput as I have multiple machines pulling data from there connected to the same switch. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user
On 6 February 2014 16:09:32 CET, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote: ---8 Here it is: grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 title Gentoo Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3 Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3? No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the old deprecated IDE subsystem. His fstab refers to drives as hd? Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?) Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch to the latest thing in init systems. Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go through his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally bring the box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas. (Sorry Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!) I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was superseded and deprecated? -- Regards Peter Not sure. I switched my last machine over to the sd-scheme 2 holidays (sometime in 2012) ago. (It's a netbook I only use during holidays as a picture store and viewer) -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/06/14 09:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:32:13 -0700, Joseph wrote: You don't need to change grub.conf to reboot with different options, just press e and edit the options in place. When I try to boot I'm getting an error: VFS: Can not open device hda3 or unknown block (0,0): error -6 You can change GRUB settings from the GRUB menu, before you try to boot the kernel, press e as in my previous post. It seems you are getting into a mess with the systemd switch and trying all sorts of things at random. The old rule of when you find yourself in a hold, stop digging applies here. Stop making changes in the hope of getting things working, when you could be making them worse to the extent that your system will still be broken when you fix the original problem. Go back to the systemd wiki page and follow it carefully, making sure you both understand and complete each step, otherwise I see things getting worse for you. -- Neil Bothwick Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. I copied an old kernel config file from /boot did make oldconfig enable systemd in the kernel put the grub.conf ... init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd and it booted OK but I have no X display, no network :-/ I just realized that systemd it is almost like learning configuring new OS. I have no time for this so I'm back pedaling to udev :-/ -- Joseph
[gentoo-user] Re: module woes
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Let's thin about this logically. A kernel does not get told it's version, it already knows that, and modules are versioned too. A kernel finds it's modules by looking in /path/to/modules/`uname -r` uname -r returns: 3.13.1-gentoo So, either the version string is wrong in the kernel (possible I suppose if you copy and old .config and male oldconfig goes wrong somehow) or you have the wrong modules in the wrongly named directory. Checked all of that: ls /boot kernel-3.13.0-gentoo-r1 kernel-3.13.1-gentoo grub lost+found kernel-3.10.25-gentoo pluss all permission in /lib/modules/* have been recursively fixed. the first to kernels and related dirs had a different set of permissions than the third kernel (3.13.1-gentoo, but that is all manually fixed now. If the version string correct if you runs trings against any of those not-loading modules and grep for vermagic? # strings /lib/modules/3.10.25-gentoo/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/nf_nat_ipv4.ko vermagic=3.10.25-gentoo SMP mod_unload # strings /lib/modules/3.13.1-gentoo/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/nf_nat_ipv4.ko vermagic=3.13.1-gentoo SMP mod_unload Does the correct kernel version show up when looking in strings of the image in /boot? probable not. Here is what I discoved: strings /boot/kernel-3.13.1-gentoo | grep ver empty strings kernel-3.10.25-gentoo | grep ver empty strings /boot/kernel-3.13.1-gentoo | less after much manual parsing snip This kernel requires an %s CPU, but only detected an %s CPU. This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: %d:%d earlyprintk serial ttyS console uart8250,io, uart,io, early console in setup code debug WARNING: Ancient bootloader, some functionality may be limited! Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU. A20 gate not responding, unable to boot... 0123456789ABCDEFPress ENTER to see video modes available, SPACE to continue, or wait 30 sec Mode: Resolution: Type: %dx%d %c %03X %4dx%-7s %-6s Enter a video mode or scan to scan for additional modes: Undefined video mode number: %x 3.13.1-gentoo (root@skipper) #1 SMP Sun Feb 2 04:37:07 EST 2014 snip invalid distance too far back invalid distance code invalid literal/length code -- System halted incorrect header check unknown compression method invalid window size invalid block type invalid stored block lengths invalid code lengths set invalid bit length repeat invalid literal/lengths set invalid distances set incorrect data check Destination address too large Decompressing Linux... Not a gzip file header error read error uncompression error Parsing ELF... done. Booting the kernel. too many length or distance symbols early console in decompress_kernel Destination address inappropriately aligned Out of memory while allocating output buffer Out of memory while allocating input buffer Out of memory while allocating z_stream Out of memory while allocating workspace Kernel is not a valid ELF file Failed to allocate space for phdrs earlyprintk serial ttyS console uart8250,io, uart,io, initrd= Failed to handle fs_protoFailed to open file: Failed to get file info size Failed to get file info Failed to read file Failed to alloc mem for gdt EL64 Failed to alloc mem for file handle list Failed to alloc mem for file info Failed to alloc highmem for files We've run out of free low memory Failed to get handle for LOADED_IMAGE_PROTOCOL Failed to alloc lowmem for boot params Failed to alloc mem for gdt structure ERROR: Failed to allocate usable memory for kernel. end/snip Failed to open volume They are pretty much identical (string wise) except this line: strings /boot/kernel-3.10.25-gentoo | less 3.10.25-gentoo (root@skipper) #3 SMP Tue Jan 14 23:18:53 EST 2014 And these lines (located at the bottom of the string parsing): initrd= Failed to handle fs_proto Failed to open volume Failed to open initrd file: Failed to get initrd info Failed to read initrd Failed to alloc mem for gdt EL64 Failed to alloc mem for initrds Failed to get initrd info size Failed to alloc mem for initrd info Failed to alloc highmem for initrds We've run out of free low memory Failed to get handle for LOADED_IMAGE_PROTOCOL Failed to alloc lowmem for boot params Failed to alloc mem for cmdline Failed to alloc mem for gdt structure Failed to alloc mem for idt structure Failed to alloc mem for kernel [working theory: the kernel throws permission denied errors when it's asked in weird ways to load wrong versioned modules. Pure speculation, I've never done this at all and don't know what the error is] The permission are all consistent now (/lib/modules/*). I'm not sure how they got wacked, as I have not done anything with modules yet. Nore anything messing with those perms.. Obviously, from the strings command, the kernel(s) need fixing up a bit. I only got them to a point, to get the openbox stuff setup. The audio and usb automounting are all that is left to
[gentoo-user] Re: Is VLAN configuration manual section up to date?
On 2014-02-06, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: If the switch supports bonding, use that as well. I have 4 interfaces in a single bond. On that bond I have the vlans configured. Helps with the throughput as I have multiple machines pulling data from there connected to the same switch. I hadn't thought about that... it doesn't look like the switch I have at the moment supports bonding. Since throughput isn't an issue, I think I'd rather eliminate the complexity of the second/third/etc. NIC card(s) in the host. In the past I had run into problems where an OS upgrade would cause the interface names to swap on some (but not all) machines. With just a single interface, and udev-name-randomization disabled, that problem goes away. :) -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Hmmm ... A hash-singer at and a cross-eyed guy were gmail.comSLEEPING on a deserted island, when ...
[gentoo-user] blocking -systemd
I have in make.conf USE: ... -systemd But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208 so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed udev which conflicts with systemd. Do I need to unmerge udev and emerge systemd. I'm not planning on switching to systemd after recent experience. So I was planning on avoiding it but I don't know if I can. emerge -1avq gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon * Last emerge --sync was 45d 2h 15m 32s ago. [ebuild N] sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 USE=filecaps firmware-loader gudev introspection kmod pam policykit tcpd -acl -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt -http -lzma -python -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 [ebuild N] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2 [uninstall] sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3 [blocks b ] =sys-apps/systemd-197 (=sys-apps/systemd-197 is blocking sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3) [blocks b ] sys-auth/nss-myhostname (sys-auth/nss-myhostname is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2) [uninstall] app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1 USE=-systemd [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1 USE=colord cups i18n policykit short-touchpad-timeout udev -debug (-openrc-force) (-packagekit) {-test} INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev (sys-fs/udev is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2) [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd (sys-apps/systemd is blocking sys-fs/udev-208, app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1) * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be * installed at the same time on the same system. (sys-apps/systemd-208-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by sys-apps/systemd required by (gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) =sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,gudev?,introspection?,kmod?,selinux?,static-libs(-)?] (=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-),gudev,introspection,kmod]) required by (virtual/udev-208::gentoo, installed) =sys-apps/systemd-207 required by (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (sys-fs/udev-208::gentoo, installed) pulled in by sys-fs/udev required by @selected -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: module woes
On 06/02/2014 18:08, James wrote: [working theory: the kernel throws permission denied errors when it's asked in weird ways to load wrong versioned modules. Pure speculation, I've never done this at all and don't know what the error is] The permission are all consistent now (/lib/modules/*). I'm not sure how they got wacked, as I have not done anything with modules yet. Nore anything messing with those perms.. Obviously, from the strings command, the kernel(s) need fixing up a bit. I only got them to a point, to get the openbox stuff setup. The audio and usb automounting are all that is left to fix The points is the kernels should be good enough to work with? I suspect grub2, as this is my first forray into a bootable system with grub2 What is stumping me is why all three kernels boot, but the modules only point to 3.10.25, even when boot either the second (kernel-3.13.0-gentoo-r1) kernel or the third (config-3.13.1-gentoo) kernel. I'm going to work on this and scratch a bit. So any other suggestions are welcome, although it'll be a few days until I post back. Got any strings options/scripts to only filter out the english readable parts of mostly binary files? Manual parsing is a drag.. What/where could the system be corrupted to only attempt to use those modules from 3.10.25? Your kernels look fine actually. All kernel images have that large collection of attention-grabbing strings, they seem to be regular compiled in error messages. And the version numbers are fine. I've just built 3.13.1-gentoo here and my perms come out right, so it's not a bug that e.g. snuck into that one version's Makefile. And I know of no way for a bootloader to influence what a kernel image thinks it's version is or how to get to it's modules (it would be a huge attack vector if a bootloader could do that) I think I'm all out of ideas now, you might have to consult with some kernel guys. Per my understanding, what you describe cannot happen, so it's an odd one indeed. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user
On 06/02/2014 17:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote: ---8 Here it is: grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 title Gentoo Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3 Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3? No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the old deprecated IDE subsystem. His fstab refers to drives as hd? Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?) Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch to the latest thing in init systems. Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go through his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally bring the box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas. (Sorry Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!) I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was superseded and deprecated? Dim memory tells me it's somewhere around 2006/7? I agree with your suggested approach. Joseph should first get world fully updated and synced, then switch the kernel disk system over to the new framework, verify all that as working nicely, and only then activate systemd. Like Canek said, systemd doesn't magically get installed and them just work. It runs at too low a level for that to happen in all cases. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev
On Tuesday 04 February 2014 18:38:27 Joseph wrote: I don't have pmount installed, and I'm not sure what XFCE4 is using. How to find out? You said that you have systemd installed, but did you actually *boot* systemd as init (PID 1)?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/06/14 21:19, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/02/2014 17:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote: ---8 Here it is: grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 title Gentoo Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3 Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3? No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the old deprecated IDE subsystem. His fstab refers to drives as hd? Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?) Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch to the latest thing in init systems. Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go through his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally bring the box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas. (Sorry Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!) I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was superseded and deprecated? Dim memory tells me it's somewhere around 2006/7? I agree with your suggested approach. Joseph should first get world fully updated and synced, then switch the kernel disk system over to the new framework, verify all that as working nicely, and only then activate systemd. Like Canek said, systemd doesn't magically get installed and them just work. It runs at too low a level for that to happen in all cases. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com I'm running on this box linux-3.10.17-gentoo so it is fairly new. I updated my world 1-month ago. I usually update every three months. First backup system, if there are no major issues after a week or so I upgrade few other system and if everything goes smooth I upgrade the main system with the same three. Is is possible to have packages without systemd flag. I was just rebuilding gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon and it wants to pull-in: sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and this conflicts with udev. I'm not switching to systemd anytime soon, got burned recently and have no time to learn new configuration settings. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] blocking -systemd
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: I have in make.conf USE: ... -systemd But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208 so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed udev which conflicts with systemd. Do I need to unmerge udev and emerge systemd. I'm not planning on switching to systemd after recent experience. So I was planning on avoiding it but I don't know if I can. emerge -1avq gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon * Last emerge --sync was 45d 2h 15m 32s ago. [ebuild N] sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 USE=filecaps firmware-loader gudev introspection kmod pam policykit tcpd -acl -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt -http -lzma -python -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 [ebuild N] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2 [uninstall] sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3 [blocks b ] =sys-apps/systemd-197 (=sys-apps/systemd-197 is blocking sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3) [blocks b ] sys-auth/nss-myhostname (sys-auth/nss-myhostname is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2) [uninstall] app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1 USE=-systemd [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1 USE=colord cups i18n policykit short-touchpad-timeout udev -debug (-openrc-force) (-packagekit) {-test} INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev (sys-fs/udev is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2) [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd (sys-apps/systemd is blocking sys-fs/udev-208, app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1) * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be * installed at the same time on the same system. (sys-apps/systemd-208-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by sys-apps/systemd required by (gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) =sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,gudev?,introspection?,kmod?,selinux?,static-libs(-)?] (=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-),gudev,introspection,kmod]) required by (virtual/udev-208::gentoo, installed) =sys-apps/systemd-207 required by (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (sys-fs/udev-208::gentoo, installed) pulled in by sys-fs/udev required by @selected You need to specify the openrc-force USE flag for gnome-settings-daemon. Be aware that this is not really supported, you will have reduced functionality, and somethings will probably fail. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/06/14 21:19, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/02/2014 17:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote: ---8 Here it is: grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 title Gentoo Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3 Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3? No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the old deprecated IDE subsystem. His fstab refers to drives as hd? Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?) Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch to the latest thing in init systems. Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go through his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally bring the box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas. (Sorry Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!) I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was superseded and deprecated? Dim memory tells me it's somewhere around 2006/7? I agree with your suggested approach. Joseph should first get world fully updated and synced, then switch the kernel disk system over to the new framework, verify all that as working nicely, and only then activate systemd. Like Canek said, systemd doesn't magically get installed and them just work. It runs at too low a level for that to happen in all cases. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com I'm running on this box linux-3.10.17-gentoo so it is fairly new. I updated my world 1-month ago. I usually update every three months. First backup system, if there are no major issues after a week or so I upgrade few other system and if everything goes smooth I upgrade the main system with the same three. Is is possible to have packages without systemd flag. I was just rebuilding gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon and it wants to pull-in: sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and this conflicts with udev. I'm not switching to systemd anytime soon, got burned recently and have no time to learn new configuration settings. As I said in the other thread, you need to set the openrc-force USE flag for gnome-settings-daemon. Again, this is not really supported, it will result in reduced functionality, and somethings will probably fail. And since most of the underlying infrastructure of Xfce is really GNOME, this probably will happen with more and more packages in the future, as more and more things start using the more sane and advanced functionality of logind. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] system is trying to install mask package
In /etc/portage/package.mask I have masked: =x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2 but emerge is trying to install it, why? emerge -avq xorg-server * Last emerge --sync was 45d 3h 42m 30s ago. [ebuild r UD] x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2 [1.14.99.904] USE=ipv6 nptl suid udev xorg -dmx -doc -kdrive -minimal (-selinux) -static-libs -tslib -xnest -xvfb The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: (see package.unmask in the portage(5) man page for more details) # required by @__auto_slot_operator_replace_installed__ (argument) # /etc/portage/package.mask: =x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2 What is: # required by @__auto_slot_operator_replace_installed__ (argument) -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] system is trying to install mask package
On 02/06/14 13:33, Joseph wrote: In /etc/portage/package.mask I have masked: =x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2 but emerge is trying to install it, why? emerge -avq xorg-server * Last emerge --sync was 45d 3h 42m 30s ago. [ebuild r UD] x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2 [1.14.99.904] USE=ipv6 nptl suid udev xorg -dmx -doc -kdrive -minimal (-selinux) -static-libs -tslib -xnest -xvfb The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: (see package.unmask in the portage(5) man page for more details) # required by @__auto_slot_operator_replace_installed__ (argument) # /etc/portage/package.mask: =x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2 What is: # required by @__auto_slot_operator_replace_installed__ (argument) Solved. gdm display manager was pulling xorg-server-1.14 I unmerged gdm -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] Is VLAN configuration manual section up to date?
On Thu, 6 February 2014, at 3:35 pm, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. A google seems to suggest this client is able to send plain-text messages. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is VLAN configuration manual section up to date?
On 6 February 2014 22:13:26 CET, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 6 February 2014, at 3:35 pm, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. A google seems to suggest this client is able to send plain-text messages. Stroller. My apologies. I had it set to text only. For some reason it changed it to html. (Only just noticed.) Is it sending correctly now? -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] system is trying to install mask package
On Thu, 6 February 2014, at 8:33 pm, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: … * Last emerge --sync was 45d 3h 42m 30s ago. [ebuild r UD] x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2 [1.14.99.904] USE=ipv6 nptl suid udev xorg -dmx -doc -kdrive -minimal (-selinux) If I'm reading this correctly, you currently have x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.99.904 installed. Is this in the main tree? Is this marked as amd64 or ~amd64? Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] system is trying to install mask package
On 02/06/14 21:20, Stroller wrote: On Thu, 6 February 2014, at 8:33 pm, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: … * Last emerge --sync was 45d 3h 42m 30s ago. [ebuild r UD] x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2 [1.14.99.904] USE=ipv6 nptl suid udev xorg -dmx -doc -kdrive -minimal (-selinux) If I'm reading this correctly, you currently have x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.99.904 installed. Is this in the main tree? Is this marked as amd64 or ~amd64? Stroller. I accidentally marked it ~amd64 I think new version of gdm requested unstable xorg-server, I have auto-unmask enabled. I use slim as log-in and it did not show user name on log-in screen or password being typed. I know this was a problem with xorg-server, 1.14 or newer did not work with my video card, so I needed to downgraded it to 1.13 -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] Is VLAN configuration manual section up to date?
On Thu, 6 February 2014, at 9:20 pm, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. A google seems to suggest this client is able to send plain-text messages. My apologies. I had it set to text only. For some reason it changed it to html. (Only just noticed.) Is it sending correctly now? It does now indeed seem to be, yes. Thank you. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev
On 02/05/2014 06:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Feb 5, 2014 6:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com mailto:w41...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip ] I am seat0 I'm more concerned about you being seat0, and you being asked for a password. In theory that's what logind solves, and in a much more cleaner, race-free and deterministic way than ConsoleKit. Do you have systemd with the policykit USE flag? And polkit with the systemd USE flag? (I suppose the later must have it). Yes systemd has polkit and polkit has systemd. If you do, can you please show us the output (make sure to do this inside your DE session) from: • loginctl seat-status For example, mine shows: snippage sigh wa1ter@a6:~ loginctl SESSIONUID USER SEAT 1 1001 wa1ter seat0 1 sessions listed. wa1ter@a6:~ loginctl seat-status Too few arguments.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/2014 06:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Feb 5, 2014 6:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com mailto:w41...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip ] I am seat0 I'm more concerned about you being seat0, and you being asked for a password. In theory that's what logind solves, and in a much more cleaner, race-free and deterministic way than ConsoleKit. Do you have systemd with the policykit USE flag? And polkit with the systemd USE flag? (I suppose the later must have it). Yes systemd has polkit and polkit has systemd. If you do, can you please show us the output (make sure to do this inside your DE session) from: • loginctl seat-status For example, mine shows: snippage sigh wa1ter@a6:~ loginctl SESSIONUID USER SEAT 1 1001 wa1ter seat0 1 sessions listed. wa1ter@a6:~ loginctl seat-status Too few arguments. Sorry, obviously I meant: • loginctl seat-status seat0 Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México