Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: OT: Mapping random numbers (PRNG)

2014-06-29 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Jun 29, 2014, at 0:28, Kai Krakow hurikha...@gmail.com wrote: Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi schrieb: On Jun 27, 2014, at 0:00, Kai Krakow hurikha...@gmail.com wrote: Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi schrieb: If you are looking a mathematically perfect solution there is a simple

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross system dependencies

2014-06-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 09:23:17 PM thegeezer wrote: On 06/28/2014 07:06 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Saturday, June 28, 2014 01:39:41 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 11:36:11 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: I need a way to add dependencies to services which are provided by

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: So, thoughts? Did it mark that part as bad and all is well or is this going to be trouble down the line? Should I just fill the thing up with data and test

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you need gdm at all? Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, unless one attempts to cover what the login manager sets up, I don't think that a plain call with a plain `exec

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross system dependencies

2014-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:55:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: or... puppet and it's kin Last time I looked at puppet, it seemed too complex for what I need. I will recheck it again. What about something like monit? -- Neil Bothwick Bug: (n.) any program feature not yet described to the

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-29 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote: What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of testing? I realize no one

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 28 June 2014 11:25:10 Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On 28 June 2014 16:54:52 CEST, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: It's Wakes Week here and we've just had a triple fly-by by a Hurricane from the Battle of Britain Commemorative Flight. Last Saturday it was

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 29 June 2014 00:18:06 Alan McKinnon wrote: I suppose that's what happens when you don't fact-check. That'll teach me :-) You reckon? :-) -- Regards Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross system dependencies

2014-06-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, June 29, 2014 09:35:33 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:55:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: or... puppet and it's kin Last time I looked at puppet, it seemed too complex for what I need. I will recheck it again. What about something like monit? Hmm... I

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, June 29, 2014 09:46:12 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 28 June 2014 11:25:10 Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On 28 June 2014 16:54:52 CEST, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: It's Wakes Week here and we've just had a triple fly-by by a Hurricane from

[gentoo-user] Mosuewheel goes crazy...

2014-06-29 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, normally the mouse wheel is used for action like scrolling and zooming... From time to time it happens that -- right after using firefox -- this assignment does not work anymore and using wheel moves the application, which currently has the focus, is moved from desktop to desktop or moves

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: Here's the Spitfire run. Hurricane to follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHuVn7R4AcY Wow. Video is good but I bet being there is much better. I live about 4 or 5 miles from a air force base here. We have mostly training type planes that fly over us but on

Re: [gentoo-user] Mosuewheel goes crazy...

2014-06-29 Thread meino . cramer
meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de [14-06-29 11:20]: Hi, normally the mouse wheel is used for action like scrolling and zooming... From time to time it happens that -- right after using firefox -- this assignment does not work anymore and using wheel moves the application, which

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 09:42:39 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote: What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test every few days, would it then catch a error after a

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 Thread Gevisz
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:05:58 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:startxfce4 Are you sure that you need gdm at all? Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, unless one attempts to cover

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-keyring-daemon processes running as root

2014-06-29 Thread Francesco Turco
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014, at 11:08, Francesco Turco wrote: As you can see I have many gnome-keyring-daemon processes running as root. I also noted that on my system /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon has the setuid bit set: $ ls -l /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon -rws--x--x 1 root root 940184 Jun 8

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of testing? I

[gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

2014-06-29 Thread João Matos
Dear list, After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, the last step was to create a stage4, and replace my old hd. I did it, installed grub lecacy in chroot. No error reported during the installation. My /boot isn't a separated partition, and my root fs is ext4, just

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-29 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: OT: Mapping random numbers (PRNG)

2014-06-29 Thread Kai Krakow
Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi schrieb: On Jun 29, 2014, at 0:28, Kai Krakow hurikha...@gmail.com wrote: Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi schrieb: On Jun 27, 2014, at 0:00, Kai Krakow hurikha...@gmail.com wrote: Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi schrieb: If you are looking a

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

2014-06-29 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 29/06/14 20:17, João Matos wrote: Dear list, After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, the last step was to create a stage4, and replace my old hd. I did it, installed grub lecacy in chroot. No error reported during the installation. My /boot isn't a

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

2014-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/06/2014 14:17, João Matos wrote: Dear list, After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, the last step was to create a stage4, and replace my old hd. I did it, installed grub lecacy in chroot. No error reported during the installation. My /boot isn't a

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 29 June 2014 04:22:16 Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: Here's the Spitfire run. Hurricane to follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHuVn7R4AcY Wow. Video is good but I bet being there is much better. Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, but

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-29 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:57:55PM -0500, Dale wrote: I'm just going to try and buy another 3TB drive as soon as I can. I may even make it into a removable thingy. Then I can make backups and just put it in a outbuilding. By the way, my outbuilding is pretty far from For such use, I am

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

2014-06-29 Thread João Matos
2014-06-29 10:48 GMT-03:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: On 29/06/2014 14:17, João Matos wrote: Dear list, After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, the last step was to create a stage4, and replace my old hd. I did it, installed grub lecacy

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, but the Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet or so was among the two or three most impressive of my life. Both planes have V12 Rolls-Royce Merlin engines (I think). As each

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread wabenbau
Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 11:38 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Peter Humphrey wrote: Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, but the Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet [...] Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 29 June 2014 18:38:11 CEST, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, but the Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet or so was among the two or three most impressive of my life. Both planes

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

2014-06-29 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
On Sonntag, 29. Juni 2014, 13:02:12 João Matos wrote: 2014-06-29 10:48 GMT-03:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: On 29/06/2014 14:17, João Matos wrote: Dear list, After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well. So, the last step was to create a stage4,

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB isn't working on SSD

2014-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/06/2014 18:02, João Matos wrote: 2014-06-29 10:48 GMT-03:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com: On 29/06/2014 14:17, João Matos wrote: Dear list, After finishing the configuration, my gentoo was working very well.

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 Thread covici
Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you need gdm at all? Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, unless one attempts to cover what the login manager sets up, I don't think

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 Thread Jc García
2014-06-29 13:20 GMT-06:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com: Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you need gdm at all? Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, unless one attempts to

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/06/2014 18:38, Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, but the Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet or so was among the two or three most impressive of my life. Both planes have V12 Rolls-Royce

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 Thread Michael Cook
On 06/29/2014 03:20 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you need gdm at all? Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a lot of people; so, unless one attempts to

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/06/2014 18:51, waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 11:38 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Peter Humphrey wrote: Of course! I missed the Spitfire, so I don't know how high it flew, but the Hurricane sound from no more than a couple of hundred feet [...] Please

[gentoo-user] mount.nfs stale nfs handle

2014-06-29 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Hi there, After upgrading my server to latest stable release of gentoo, none of my clients is able to mount any nfs share from the server anymore. Symptoms: $ mount -v -t nfs poseidon:/datadisk/ /mnt/gentoo/ mount.nfs: timeout set for Sun Jun 29 19:33:40 2014 mount.nfs: trying text-based

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:28:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The Harvard trainers we were using when I was in the military all used 140-odd octane gasoline, I beleive that's normal for aircraft piston engines. It's still gas, but not what you put in the car. You should see what that stuff does

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war machines then please to this at another place and not on this list. Allow me to introduce your to my

Re: [gentoo-user] mount.nfs stale nfs handle

2014-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:34:07 +0200, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: After upgrading my server to latest stable release of gentoo, none of my clients is able to mount any nfs share from the server anymore. [snip] Server has kernel version 3.12.21-gentoo-r1and net-fs/nfs-utils-1.2.9 installed. As

[gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread gottlieb
My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd. The 3 june news asserts all systemd users are recommended to stay with sys-power/upower. However update world wants to uninstall upower and install

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 Thread covici
Michael Cook mc...@mackal.net wrote: On 06/29/2014 03:20 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you need gdm at all? Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd. The 3 june news asserts all systemd users are recommended to stay with sys-power/upower. However update

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 Thread covici
Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-06-29 13:20 GMT-06:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com: Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you need gdm at all? Yes, `startx` doesn't work well in GNOME 3 for a

[gentoo-user] systemd warning kernel 3.10 required

2014-06-29 Thread covici
What is the significance of the warning when updating to systemd-214 that kernel 3.10 is required? I can't go to that now, what might break? Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread wabenbau
Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war machines then please to

Re: [gentoo-user] mount.nfs stale nfs handle

2014-06-29 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Am Sonntag, 29. Juni 2014, 20:41:55 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:34:07 +0200, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: After upgrading my server to latest stable release of gentoo, none of my clients is able to mount any nfs share from the server anymore. [snip] Server has kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Dale
waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd warning kernel 3.10 required

2014-06-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: What is the significance of the warning when updating to systemd-214 that kernel 3.10 is required? I can't go to that now, what might break? The README from systemd still says that you need 3.8 [1] (3.0 without some features);

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 Thread Jc García
2014-06-29 14:37 GMT-06:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com: I have tried xfce4 using startx and it worked great under openrc and I went to a lot of trouble to boot with systemd to keep using gnome, but maybe I will go back to xfce4 after all, if using startx with gnome-session gives problems. If you

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd. The 3 june news asserts all systemd users are recommended to stay

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 22:46:50 +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: That's not the point. If you wanna talk about stuff that's apparently absolut useless to almost every member of this ML, then you should do this at another place. Especially discussions with politically and or military background

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jun 29 2014, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: When I started this project there were no related bugs in b.g.o. I will investigate them Pretty tricky huh. When I started this project there were no related bugs in b.g.o.; but there are now. I will investigate them Sorry, allan

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/06/2014 23:57, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd. The 3 june news

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread wabenbau
Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread wabenbau
Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 22:59 schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 22:46:50 +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: That's not the point. If you wanna talk about stuff that's apparently absolut useless to almost every member of this ML, then you should do this at

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/06/2014 23:57, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread Dale
waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Please folks, stop that crap. It has

Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Tally ho!

2014-06-29 Thread wabenbau
Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 19:12 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014

Re: [gentoo-user] how to wake up gdm

2014-06-29 Thread Gevisz
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 16:37:12 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-06-29 13:20 GMT-06:00 cov...@ccs.covici.com: Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:36:14 +0300 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that