Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems

2014-09-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, September 07, 2014 01:11:34 AM siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 20:35:39 +0200 J. Roeleveld 
jo...@antarean.org
 
 wrote:
  Did you read the rest of the email?
 
 Yes i have and has say that the printer ever has work with kernel usb
 printer support and disabled cups usb.
 
  I have not been able to use Cups with USB printer support in the
  kernel for nearly a decade now. Disabling that in the kernel and
  having Cups handle it, with the USB flag enabled, has always worked
  for me.
 
 I has change now. Kernel USB Module deactivate and cups usb activated.
 It work not. I can not see the printer.
 
 http://picpaste.com/11-PzitLROe.png

Please do not use this.

 ^Cgentoomobile siefke dmesg | tails
 [  541.371103] usb 3-1: new full-speed USB device number 2 using 
uhci_hcd
 [  541.722168] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=04f9, 
idProduct=01eb
 [  541.722180] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0,
 SerialNumber=3 [  541.722188] usb 3-1: SerialNumber: 000M9N691511
 [  925.250217] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 2
 [  930.026070] usb 3-1: new full-speed USB device number 3 using 
uhci_hcd
 [  930.176145] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=04f9, 
idProduct=01eb
 [  930.176157] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0,
 SerialNumber=3 [  930.176164] usb 3-1: SerialNumber: 000M9N691511

It detects the USB device.

 gentoomobile siefke # cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep USB_PRINTER
 # CONFIG_USB_PRINTER is not set
 
 I has now try my netbook print over the cups on my dell notebook. But 
cups
 from netbook want not print over network. I find crazy.
 
 cups access log
 localhost - - [07/Sep/2014:01:03:53 +0200] POST /jobs HTTP/1.1 200
 139 Release-Job successful-ok
 
 cups error.log with debug: http://pastebin.com/8mL75b26

Please do not use this. Attach it to the email.

 I not know what happen that its so crazy. Has someone advice?

Lets start by basics:
1) Which type of printer are you using?
2) What does  eix -I cups  return?
3) What does  zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i usb  return?
4) Did you restart cups after changing the USE-flag?

--
Joost


Re: [gentoo-user] OT: In search of a hint/ides: Loop recording of a webcam

2014-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 17:56:33 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 As mentioned motion detection software is not appropiate 
 for this, since it detects motion ... that is: The bird/s
 are already in sight...add the reaction time between bird
 is there and motion detection has recognized that there is a
 bird and all the false alarms if a bee is flying through the 
 video or a distant bird flies through but does not land etc...

Motion buffers the last few seconds of video and includes it with the
recording when it detects motion, the number of seconds is configurable.

There are also many options to tweak for the detection, such as only
looking at specific portions of the image. Some false alarms are
inevitable but you would spend less time looking through those than
watching a live stream.

Only you can decide what works best for you, but check the options
thoroughly before you dismiss motion detection.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

There's no place like ~


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Re: [gentoo-user] MBR partition

2014-09-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 Sep 2014 15:42:32 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 04:44:56 -0600, Joseph wrote:
  I'll continue on Monday and let you know.  If it will not boot with
  sector starting at 2048, I will re-partition /boot sda1 to start at 63.
 
 Don't even think about aligning partitions like that on an SSD.

Why do you want to move it to sector 63?  Leave exactly where it is and you 
will not have any problems installing and booting with GRUB2 or GRUB legacy.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] MBR partition

2014-09-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 Sep 2014 13:49:27 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 06/09/2014 05:02, Joseph wrote:
  I'm configuring MBR partition for older disk and need to know what code
  to enter for boot partition.  My BIOS is not EFI type.
 
 There is no such thing as an MBR partition. Please clarify.
 
 The MBR is the first sector of the disk. It simply exists and you use it
 as such.

I think the OP is meant to say that he is formatting an older disk (I'm 
guessing less than 2TB) with a DOS partition table for the purpose of booting 
with an MBR (as opposed to UEFI).

Of course I am reading between the lines here, because the OP has not 
formulated the question clearly enough for me to know what kind of code he is 
referring to (the whole PC is full of ... code) and where does he intend to 
enter such code.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] MBR partition

2014-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/09/2014 13:44, Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 06 Sep 2014 13:49:27 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 06/09/2014 05:02, Joseph wrote:
 I'm configuring MBR partition for older disk and need to know what code
 to enter for boot partition.  My BIOS is not EFI type.

 There is no such thing as an MBR partition. Please clarify.

 The MBR is the first sector of the disk. It simply exists and you use it
 as such.
 
 I think the OP is meant to say that he is formatting an older disk (I'm 
 guessing less than 2TB) with a DOS partition table for the purpose of booting 
 with an MBR (as opposed to UEFI).
 
 Of course I am reading between the lines here, because the OP has not 
 formulated the question clearly enough for me to know what kind of code he is 
 referring to (the whole PC is full of ... code) and where does he intend to 
 enter such code.
 


I agree, and I figured the same. Still waiting for his answer.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] MBR partition

2014-09-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 07 September 2014 14:25:50 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 07/09/2014 13:44, Mick wrote:
  On Saturday 06 Sep 2014 13:49:27 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On 06/09/2014 05:02, Joseph wrote:
  I'm configuring MBR partition for older disk and need to know what code
  to enter for boot partition.  My BIOS is not EFI type.
  
  There is no such thing as an MBR partition. Please clarify.
  
  The MBR is the first sector of the disk. It simply exists and you use it
  as such.
  
  I think the OP is meant to say that he is formatting an older disk (I'm
  guessing less than 2TB) with a DOS partition table for the purpose of
  booting with an MBR (as opposed to UEFI).
  
  Of course I am reading between the lines here, because the OP has not
  formulated the question clearly enough for me to know what kind of code he
  is referring to (the whole PC is full of ... code) and where does he
  intend to enter such code.
 
 I agree, and I figured the same. Still waiting for his answer.

He said he'd resume after the weekend, so don't hold your breath just yet...

-- 
Regards
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems

2014-09-07 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello,

On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 09:42:44 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org
wrote:

  http://picpaste.com/11-PzitLROe.png
 
 Please do not use this.
 
  cups error.log with debug: http://pastebin.com/8mL75b26
 
 Please do not use this. Attach it to the email.

Okay sorry, but with debug logs is often problems to append on emails 
to mailinglists. 


 Lets start by basics:
 1) Which type of printer are you using?

Multifunction Laser Printer Brother MFC-7320

 2) What does  eix -I cups  return?

iefke ~ $  eix -I cups
[I] net-print/cups
 Available versions:  1.7.1-r1^t{tbz2} 1.7.3^t{tbz2} ~1.7.4^t **^t {X 
acl dbus debug gnutls java kerberos lprng-compat pam python selinux +ssl 
static-libs systemd +threads usb xinetd zeroconf ABI_MIPS=n32 n64 o32 
ABI_PPC=32 64 ABI_S390=32 64 ABI_X86=32 64 x32 ELIBC=FreeBSD 
LINGUAS=+ca +es +fr +it +ja +pt_BR +ru PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7}
 Installed versions:  1.7.3^t{tbz2}(00:50:26 07.09.2014)(X acl dbus pam 
python ssl threads usb -debug -gnutls -java -kerberos -lprng-compat -selinux 
-static-libs -systemd -xinetd -zeroconf ABI_MIPS=-n32 -n64 -o32 ABI_PPC=-32 
-64 ABI_S390=-32 -64 ABI_X86=32 -64 -x32 ELIBC=-FreeBSD LINGUAS=fr -ca 
-es -it -ja -pt_BR -ru PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7)
 Homepage:http://www.cups.org/
 Description: The Common Unix Printing System

[I] net-print/cups-filters
 Available versions:  1.0.53{tbz2} ~1.0.54 ** {dbus +foomatic jpeg perl 
png static-libs tiff zeroconf}
 Installed versions:  1.0.53{tbz2}(03:20:16 09.06.2014)(dbus foomatic jpeg 
png tiff -perl -static-libs -zeroconf)
 Homepage:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdfasstandardprintjobformat
 Description: Cups PDF filters

2 Treffer

 3) What does  zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i usb  return?

siefke ~ $  zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i usb
# CONFIG_USB_SWITCH_FSA9480 is not set
# USB Network Adapters
# CONFIG_USB_CATC is not set
# CONFIG_USB_KAWETH is not set
# CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS is not set
# CONFIG_USB_RTL8150 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_RTL8152 is not set
CONFIG_USB_USBNET=m
CONFIG_USB_NET_AX8817X=m
# CONFIG_USB_NET_AX88179_178A is not set
CONFIG_USB_NET_CDCETHER=m
CONFIG_USB_NET_CDC_EEM=m
# CONFIG_USB_NET_CDC_NCM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_HUAWEI_CDC_NCM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_CDC_MBIM is not set
CONFIG_USB_NET_DM9601=m
# CONFIG_USB_NET_SR9700 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_SR9800 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_SMSC75XX is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_SMSC95XX is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_GL620A is not set
CONFIG_USB_NET_NET1080=m
# CONFIG_USB_NET_PLUSB is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_MCS7830 is not set
CONFIG_USB_NET_RNDIS_HOST=m
CONFIG_USB_NET_CDC_SUBSET=m
# CONFIG_USB_ALI_M5632 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_AN2720 is not set
CONFIG_USB_BELKIN=y
CONFIG_USB_ARMLINUX=y
# CONFIG_USB_EPSON2888 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_KC2190 is not set
CONFIG_USB_NET_ZAURUS=m
# CONFIG_USB_NET_CX82310_ETH is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_KALMIA is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_QMI_WWAN is not set
CONFIG_USB_HSO=m
# CONFIG_USB_NET_INT51X1 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_IPHETH is not set
# CONFIG_USB_SIERRA_NET is not set
# CONFIG_USB_VL600 is not set
# CONFIG_AT76C50X_USB is not set
# CONFIG_USB_ZD1201 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_NET_RNDIS_WLAN is not set
# CONFIG_MOUSE_SYNAPTICS_USB is not set
# CONFIG_I2C_TINY_USB is not set
# CONFIG_MFD_RTSX_USB is not set
CONFIG_MEDIA_USB_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_USB_VIDEO_CLASS=m
CONFIG_USB_VIDEO_CLASS_INPUT_EVDEV=y
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA is not set
# CONFIG_USB_PWC is not set
# CONFIG_USB_ZR364XX is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STKWEBCAM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_S2255 is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_USBTV is not set
# Analog/digital TV USB devices
# Digital TV USB devices
CONFIG_DVB_USB=m
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_A800 is not set
CONFIG_DVB_USB_DIBUSB_MB=m
CONFIG_DVB_USB_DIBUSB_MB_FAULTY=y
CONFIG_DVB_USB_DIBUSB_MC=m
CONFIG_DVB_USB_DIB0700=m
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_UMT_010 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_CXUSB is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_M920X is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_DIGITV is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_VP7045 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_VP702X is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_GP8PSK is not set
CONFIG_DVB_USB_NOVA_T_USB2=m
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_TTUSB2 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_DTT200U is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_OPERA1 is not set
CONFIG_DVB_USB_AF9005=m
CONFIG_DVB_USB_AF9005_REMOTE=m
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_PCTV452E is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_DW2102 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_CINERGY_T2 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_DTV5100 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_FRIIO is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_AZ6027 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_TECHNISAT_USB2 is not set
CONFIG_DVB_USB_V2=m
CONFIG_DVB_USB_AF9015=m
CONFIG_DVB_USB_AF9035=m
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_ANYSEE is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_AU6610 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_AZ6007 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_CE6230 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_EC168 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_GL861 is not set
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_LME2510 is not set
# 

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: In search of a hint/ides: Loop recording of a webcam

2014-09-07 Thread meino . cramer
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-09-07 10:28]:
 On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 17:56:33 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 
  As mentioned motion detection software is not appropiate 
  for this, since it detects motion ... that is: The bird/s
  are already in sight...add the reaction time between bird
  is there and motion detection has recognized that there is a
  bird and all the false alarms if a bee is flying through the 
  video or a distant bird flies through but does not land etc...
 
 Motion buffers the last few seconds of video and includes it with the
 recording when it detects motion, the number of seconds is configurable.
 
 There are also many options to tweak for the detection, such as only
 looking at specific portions of the image. Some false alarms are
 inevitable but you would spend less time looking through those than
 watching a live stream.
 
 Only you can decide what works best for you, but check the options
 thoroughly before you dismiss motion detection.
 
 
 -- 
 Neil Bothwick
 
 There's no place like ~


Hi Neil,

I got motion working
As it seems, it does not support h264 compressed streams. It switches
back the camera to YUVY, which increases the bandwidth on USB2. In
turn the frame rate of the recorded video dropps: The video looks
like awkward old-school stop-motion movies.
And audio is also missing.

Sorry for the bad news...

Best regards,
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] OT: In search of a hint/ides: Loop recording of a webcam

2014-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 7 Sep 2014 18:22:58 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 I got motion working
 As it seems, it does not support h264 compressed streams. It switches
 back the camera to YUVY, which increases the bandwidth on USB2. In
 turn the frame rate of the recorded video dropps: The video looks
 like awkward old-school stop-motion movies.
 And audio is also missing.
 
 Sorry for the bad news...

Ah well, it was worth a try.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

When the going gets tough, upgrade.


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[gentoo-user] repoman sourcecode

2014-09-07 Thread James
Hello,

Where is the sources to repoman, including older versions, new features,
etc etc. As I cannot seem to find it as a stand alone piece of code.


curiously,
James








Re: [gentoo-user] repoman sourcecode

2014-09-07 Thread Jc García
2014-09-07 12:01 GMT-06:00 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com:
 Hello,

 Where is the sources to repoman, including older versions, new features,
 etc etc. As I cannot seem to find it as a stand alone piece of code.


 curiously,
 James

I also thought it was a standalone package, but after searching with
equery found out it's included in the portage source code[1],
interesting to know that.
[1] https://github.com/gentoo/portage/blob/master/bin/repoman



[gentoo-user] mini-PCIe SSD

2014-09-07 Thread Grant
I'm trying to use one of these mini-PCIe storage devices:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008KWEA88

in a Gigabyte Brix mini-computer but there isn't a /dev/sd* entry for
it and it isn't in lspci.  Any ideas?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] mini-PCIe SSD

2014-09-07 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/07/2014 11:55 AM, Grant wrote:
 I'm trying to use one of these mini-PCIe storage devices:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008KWEA88
 
 in a Gigabyte Brix mini-computer but there isn't a /dev/sd* entry for
 it and it isn't in lspci.  Any ideas?
 

This may be a silly question - if you have an early revision of one of
these, does the BIOS even support an SSD in the mini-PCIe slot? Maybe
there's a BIOS update? I see that the new revisions do in fact support
mini-PCIe SSDs, but that doesn't mean earlier revisions do.

I've read online that some manufacturers are using the mini-PCIe slot in
some devices but they don't adhere to the mini-PCIe specs, which means
if you plug something other than the card provided (like your SSD) it
won't work...

Dan





Re: [gentoo-user] mini-PCIe SSD

2014-09-07 Thread Grant
 I'm trying to use one of these mini-PCIe storage devices:

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008KWEA88

 in a Gigabyte Brix mini-computer but there isn't a /dev/sd* entry for
 it and it isn't in lspci.  Any ideas?


 This may be a silly question - if you have an early revision of one of
 these, does the BIOS even support an SSD in the mini-PCIe slot? Maybe
 there's a BIOS update? I see that the new revisions do in fact support
 mini-PCIe SSDs, but that doesn't mean earlier revisions do.


I just checked and I'm using BIOS version F2 which is the latest
available.  My hardware revision is v1.1.  It sounds like I may be out
of luck.  The device does have a SATA3 port but I was hoping not to
cram an entire 2.5 SSD in there to cut down on heat since it's
fanless.  Do I have any other options?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] mini-PCIe SSD

2014-09-07 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/07/2014 12:28 PM, Grant wrote:
 
 I just checked and I'm using BIOS version F2 which is the latest
 available.  My hardware revision is v1.1.  It sounds like I may be out
 of luck.  The device does have a SATA3 port but I was hoping not to
 cram an entire 2.5 SSD in there to cut down on heat since it's
 fanless.  Do I have any other options?
 
 - Grant
 

Is it possible that the device is DOA? Can you check it on another
laptop (or another device with the mini-PCIe slot?

Alternatively maybe an adapter can be acquired to test it on a regular
PC. Maybe a USB - PCIe mSata bridge adapter exists?

I have had DOA RAM and such before, although not on a SSD.

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] mini-PCIe SSD

2014-09-07 Thread Grant
 I just checked and I'm using BIOS version F2 which is the latest
 available.  My hardware revision is v1.1.  It sounds like I may be out
 of luck.  The device does have a SATA3 port but I was hoping not to
 cram an entire 2.5 SSD in there to cut down on heat since it's
 fanless.  Do I have any other options?

 - Grant


 Is it possible that the device is DOA? Can you check it on another
 laptop (or another device with the mini-PCIe slot?

 Alternatively maybe an adapter can be acquired to test it on a regular
 PC. Maybe a USB - PCIe mSata bridge adapter exists?

 I have had DOA RAM and such before, although not on a SSD.


I've been researching this a lot today and I think there is an
incompatibility between the Gigabyte 2807 and any mini-PCIe SSD.  Most
of those little SSDs are mSATA (although mine is PATA) and mSATA ports
are physically compatible with mini-PCIe but not electrically
compatible.  I could get a SATA to mSATA adapter and connect via my
SATA port, but even if the mSATA drive is then recognized, it is
unlikely that I would be able to boot from it.  I think this leaves me
with a full SATA SSD as the only option which is fine.  The Gigabyte
2807 is designed to work with them and even includes a bracket and
cable.  Surprisingly, my research has lead me to believe that an mSATA
SSD may actually generate more heat than a SATA SSD.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] NdoUtils Wont Load module in nagios

2014-09-07 Thread Jeff Smelser
I have been racking my head trying to figure out why this module wont load.
All the privs are correct as far as I can see.

Sep  7 19:22:32 kyle nagios: Nagios 3.5.1 starting... (PID=32513)
Sep  7 19:22:32 kyle nagios: Local time is Sun Sep 07 19:22:32 CDT 2014
Sep  7 19:22:32 kyle nagios: LOG VERSION: 2.0
Sep  7 19:22:32 kyle nagios: Error: Could not load module
'/usr/bin/ndomod.o' - file not found

I cant even figure out how to get more debugging from the startup. :(

Thanks,
Jeff


[gentoo-user] Re: repoman sourcecode

2014-09-07 Thread James
Jc García jyo.garcia at gmail.com writes:


  Where is the sources to repoman, including older versions, new features,
  etc etc. As I cannot seem to find it as a stand alone piece of code.

 I also thought it was a standalone package, but after searching with
 equery found out it's included in the portage source code[1],
 interesting to know that.
 [1] https://github.com/gentoo/portage/blob/master/bin/repoman

It's kind of freaky: looking at the code in one window 
and the  repoman man page in another; and then the man page for portage.


thx,
James








Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR partition

2014-09-07 Thread Dale
Kerin Millar wrote:
 On 07/09/2014 01:28, Dale wrote:
 Kerin Millar wrote:
 On 06/09/2014 13:54, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 06/09/2014 14:48, Dale wrote:
 James wrote:
 Joseph syscon780 at gmail.com writes:

 Thank you for the information.
 I'll continue on Monday and let you know.  If it will not boot
 with sector
 starting at 2048, I will
 re-partition /boot sda1 to start at 63.

 Take some time to research and reflect on your needs (desires?)
 about which file system to use. (ext 2,4) is always popular and
 safe.
 Some are very happy with BTRFS and there are many other interesting
 choices (ZFS, XFS, etc etc)..

 There is no best solution; but the EXT family offers tried and
 proven
 options. YMMV.


 hth,
 James


 I'm not sure if it is ZFS or XFS but I seem to recall one of those
 does
 not like sudden shutdowns, such as a power failure.  Maybe that has
 changed since I last tried whichever one it is that has that
 issue.  If
 you have a UPS tho, shouldn't be so much of a problem, unless your
 power
 supply goes out.

 XFS.

 It was designed by SGI for their video rendeing workstations back
 in the
 day and used very aggressive caching to get enormous throughput. It
 was
 also brilliant at dealing with directories containing thousands of
 small
 files - not unusual when dealing with video editing.

 However, it was also designed for environments where the power is
 guaranteed to never go off (which explains why they decided to go with
 such aggressive caching). If you use it in environments where
 powerouts
 are not guaranteed to not happen, well..

 Well what? It's no less reliable than other filesystems that employ
 delayed allocation (any modern filesystem worth of note). Over recent
 years, I use both XFS and ext4 extensively in production and have
 found the former trumps the latter in reliability.

 While I like them both, I predicate this assertion mainly on some of
 the silly bugs that I have seen crop up in the ext4 codebase and the
 unedifying commentary that has occasionally ensued. From reading the
 XFS list and my own experience, I have formed the opinion that the
 maintainers are more stringent in matters of QA and regression testing
 and more mature in matters of public debate. I also believe that
 regressions in stability are virtually unheard of, whereas regressions
 in performance are identified quickly and taken very seriously [1].

 The worst thing I could say about XFS is that it was comparatively
 slow until the introduction of delayed logging (an idea taken from
 ext3). [2] [3]. Nowadays, it is on a par with ext4 and, in some cases,
 scales better. It is also one of the few filesystems besides ZFS that
 can dynamically allocate inodes.
 SNIP
 --Kerin

 [1]
 http://www.percona.com/blog/2012/03/15/ext4-vs-xfs-on-ssd/#comment-903938

 [2]
 https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/xfs-delayed-logging-design.txt

 [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FegjLbCnoBw



 The point I was making in my comment was about if the power fails
 without a proper shutdown.  When I used it a long time ago, it worked
 fine, until there was a sudden power loss.  That is when problems pop
 up.  If a person has a UPS, should be good to go.

 The point I was making is that there is not a shred of evidence to
 suggest that XFS is any less resilient in this scenario than newer
 filesystems employing delayed allocation such as ext4, btrfs and ZFS.
 What I take issue with is that people continue to single XFS out for
 criticism, regardless. Let XFS be judged as it it stands today, just
 as any other actively developed filesystem should be.

 Filesystem implementations are not set in stone. Just as ext4
 developers had to resolve certain engineering challenges raised by the
 use of delayed allocation, so have XFS developers had to do the same
 before them [1].

 Arguments generally critical of the use of delayed allocation where
 power loss is a likely event would hold water. Fortunately, options
 remain for such a scenario (ext3, ext4 + nodelalloc).

 --Kerin

 [1]
 https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=7d4fb40



Which is why I said that the issue could have changed since I last used
that file system.  What I learned is this, every time there was a sudden
power fail, it was unrecoverable.  I ended up reinstalling the OS.  That
is why I posted what I did.   Still, the point is this, if the OP is
going to use the file system that had that issue, research first to make
sure they are prepared for what may still be a side effect or that is is
no longer a problem now.  Every file system there is has something
negative.  It's up to us to find out if that negative can or will apply
to us.  Having the info is better than not having at all.  I wish I knew
that before I tried XFS before. 

I might add, I've had a few sudden power fails on systems with ext4. 
What I have not had yet was a unrecoverable file system like I had with
XFS.  Maybe XFS is improved now but 

Re: [gentoo-user] mini-PCIe SSD

2014-09-07 Thread Grant
 I just checked and I'm using BIOS version F2 which is the latest
 available.  My hardware revision is v1.1.  It sounds like I may be out
 of luck.  The device does have a SATA3 port but I was hoping not to
 cram an entire 2.5 SSD in there to cut down on heat since it's
 fanless.  Do I have any other options?

 - Grant


 Is it possible that the device is DOA? Can you check it on another
 laptop (or another device with the mini-PCIe slot?

 Alternatively maybe an adapter can be acquired to test it on a regular
 PC. Maybe a USB - PCIe mSata bridge adapter exists?

 I have had DOA RAM and such before, although not on a SSD.


 I've been researching this a lot today and I think there is an
 incompatibility between the Gigabyte 2807 and any mini-PCIe SSD.  Most
 of those little SSDs are mSATA (although mine is PATA) and mSATA ports
 are physically compatible with mini-PCIe but not electrically
 compatible.  I could get a SATA to mSATA adapter and connect via my
 SATA port, but even if the mSATA drive is then recognized, it is
 unlikely that I would be able to boot from it.  I think this leaves me
 with a full SATA SSD as the only option which is fine.  The Gigabyte
 2807 is designed to work with them and even includes a bracket and
 cable.  Surprisingly, my research has lead me to believe that an mSATA
 SSD may actually generate more heat than a SATA SSD.

 - Grant


For completeness, it might be possible to make use of an mSATA card on
this system by using one which has an onboard SATA controller (as the
Samsung ones are said to have) and booting over the network or to USB
as booting to miniPCI-E is unlikely to work.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-09-07 Thread Grant
I can't seem to get video acceleration working on my Gigabyte Brix
2807 device which lspci identifies as Valley View.  1080p playback is
still stuttery.  I've tried every trick I know and Googled a lot.
Could anyone throw me some suggestions?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-09-07 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/07/2014 09:25 PM, Grant wrote:
 I can't seem to get video acceleration working on my Gigabyte Brix
 2807 device which lspci identifies as Valley View.  1080p playback is
 still stuttery.  I've tried every trick I know and Googled a lot.
 Could anyone throw me some suggestions?
 

What kernel are you running? I had this problem initially with my NUC -
I updated to gentoo-sources:3.14.14, enabled the vaapi thread globally,
rebuilt, and forced mplayer2 to use opengl (-vo gl).

After that, I am even able to play 1080p with no glitches.

Apparently Intel made a lot of enhancements to the intel in-kernel
driver with the 3.14 series.

Dan