[gentoo-user] RE: Digest of gentoo-user@gentoo.org issue 454 (27878-27927)
Unsubscribe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Digest of gentoo-user@gentoo.org issue 454 (27878-27927) Topics (messages 27878 throught 27927): [gentoo-user] OpenOffice update from Ximianised version 27878 - Billy Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27889 - Yoandy Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27892 - Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27914 - Yoandy Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] USE flags 27879 - Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27880 - Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27887 - John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27881 - Jorge Boscan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27888 - Thomas Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27891 - Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] can't boot 2.6.14 27882 - Sascha Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] trimming 27883 - Charly ghislain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge 27886 - Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] net.eth0 service failed 27890 - Michael Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Which ebuild contains sgml2html command ? 27893 - Norbert Kamenicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27894 - Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27897 - Norbert Kamenicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27905 - Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 27895 - Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Re: OpenOffice update from Ximianised version 27896 - Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Re: iptables init script 27898 - James [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge 27899 - Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] [Not specifically Gentoo] Forcing a new IP address with DHCP 27900 - Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge 27901 - Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Openoffice 2 Install problems 27902 - Jeff Cranmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27907 - Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27913 - Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] kpdf insisting in A4 paper size 27903 - Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] OT - GIMP question 27904 - Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27906 - Luis Ortiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27915 - Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27916 - Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27919 - Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27925 - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Joh=E1m-Lu=EDs_Migu=E9ns?= Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] OpenOffice update from Ximianised version 27908 - Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge 27909 - Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] drive found but still panics 27917 - Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 will be marked stable in ~1 hour on x86 27918 - Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] creating local copies of web pages 27920 - Robert Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27921 - Robert Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Re: gcc hardened and vanilla + distcc 27922 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] error emerging gnome-vfs on athlon-xp machine 27923 - Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27924 - Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] Add subject to mails CLI Postfix 27926 - Tamas Sarga [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gentoo-user] exim / authentication 27927 - Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 12/2/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 12/2/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] best make.conf settings for compaq-ml350
El Nino wrote: Dear my friends, i'm going to deploy gentoo on a Compaq Proliant ML350 server. so can any body recommend the best make.conf kernel configurations for this server. all advices are welcome... I have a Compaq Proliant 6000 if that would help. I'm not familiar with the ML350. I can email you my kernels .config if you want. It uses this kernel version: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # uname -r 2.6.11-gentoo-r3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I'm not sure what kernel versions that would work with. My make.conf is pretty simple: # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically built this stage # Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example CFLAGS=-O2 -mcpu=pentiumpro -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i386-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} MAKEOPTS=-j5 SYNC=rsync://192.167.0.1/gentoo-portage http_proxy=http://192.167.0.1:8080; Mine has quad CPUs too. Still pretty slow though. CPUs are 200MHz. :( That help any? Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
Haim Ashkenazi wrote: do you have WIPE_TMP=yes in /etc/conf.d/bootmisc? if not (and you don't have any other means of cleaning /tmp, chances are you have too many files in /tmp (e.g. every movie you ever viewed with firefox). you can change the setting like the example above and reboot the machine and it'll clean you /tmp. note however that every boot will completely wipe out every file you have in /tmp. Bye Well, this is set up as a server but I do have KDE installed. It has never connected to the net though. I hope my mom will start using it if I move. I'm going to try that setting and reboot and see if it helps any, it has to help some though. May do the same on my other rigs too. Thanks. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
LOL It helped a little bit, but not much. swifty / # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 3564108 3505584 58524 99% / udev12738880127308 1% /dev /dev/hda148312 37412 10900 78% /boot none127388 0127388 0% /dev/shm swifty / # Any more ideas? I would hate to have to remove KDE from that thing. Thanks. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS, is this better than what I have?
On Sunday 04 December 2005 09:35, Dale wrote: Hi, I have been up and running a while and am running stable but this is Gentoo. ;) I found a script that tells you what your CFLAGS are suposed to be and it is different from what I am using. This is what I am using now, from make.conf of course: CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer This is what the script said: -march=athlon-xp -mfpmath=sse -msse -mmmx -m3dnow I assume I would have to add the-O3 to that though. I have a AMD XP 2500+ and 1GB of ram. I like it to run fast even if it takes longer to compile. I think that is where the -O3 comes in but be gentle if I am wrong. For those who may read this and not tell the difference, that is a minus sign, the letter O and the number three. O3 makes binaries much, much bigger. Bigger binaries need more cacheload time. So bigger binaries are slower a lot of time. -fomit-frame-pointer is fine, fmpgmath=sse may or may not make your apps slower or faster. msse, mmmx, m3dnow are (mostly) harmless. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't boot 2.6.14
After Machine check exception polling timer started. Nothing happens any more. I'd start with acpi=off, and try to isolate the problem from there. sorry this doesn't help. BTW: my chipset is on the acpi blacklist, it was allways disabled by default. Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS, is this better than what I have?
On Sun December 4 2005 4:11 am, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I have been up and running a while and am running stable but this is Gentoo. ;) I found a script that tells you what your CFLAGS are suposed to be and it is different from what I am using. This is what I am using now, from make.conf of course: CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer This is what the script said: -march=athlon-xp -mfpmath=sse -msse -mmmx -m3dnow I assume I would have to add the-O3 to that though. I have a AMD XP 2500+ and 1GB of ram. I like it to run fast even if it takes longer to compile. I think that is where the -O3 comes in but be gentle if I am wrong. For those who may read this and not tell the difference, that is a minus sign, the letter O and the number three. What do you folks think? Is the one I am using better or the one it says? I do have long uptimes so I do want to stay stable. I have went as long as 9 months with no reboot. Thanks. Dale :-) Well, it looks pretty much like my CLAFGS: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=athlon-xp -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -m3dnow -pipe (the same I used with LFS). The difference being -O2 instead of -O3. I don't think you'll gain much with the new CFLAGS, but they won't hurt stability. -Kristian Poul Herkild -mfpmath=sse is not a good idea, the consensus is it actually lowers performance. -msse -mmmx -m3dnow are redundant (implied by -march=athlon-xp), and should be removed from your cflags line, but SHOULD be placed in your USE= line, wthout the - sign, like this: USE=mmx 3dnow sse If you use gcc-3.4.4, these flags should work fine (I've used them for a long time- no problems). CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fweb -ftracer -fprefetch-loop-arrays -ffast-math -falign-functions=64 -fno-ident CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] C++ missing
Mike Kenny wrote: I am trying to install gentoo from the web by following the steps in the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook for a stage 1 install. This works well up to a point. When I execute # emerge --emptytree system after some time the process terminates with a message similar to cd ../obj_s; -I../c++ -I../include -I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.4-r6/work/ncurses-5.4/c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.4-r6/work/ncurses-5.4/c++/../include -I. -I../include -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC -c /var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.4-r6/work/ncurses-5.4/c++/cursesf.cc /bin/sh: line 1: -I../c++: No such file or directory make: *** [../obj_s/cursesf.o] Error 127 (I say similar because the output above is from executing make within the relevant directory -var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.4-r6/work/narrowc/c++) Inspecting the Makefile shows that there is no value defind for CXX. As g++ does not appear to exist within my chrooted environment I did attempt to set this to gcc, but this failed with a notice the c++ was not installed. I believe I must have messed up something in creating my chroot environment as g++ exists elsewhere. But I can't figure what that might have been. I have also tried executing the instructions for installing gcc 3.4 in the hope that this would give me a c++ compiler, but this failed with the same error as above. Any ideas on how I should proceed? I am loathe to restart as a) I don't yet see what I can do differently and b) I have a 2GB cap on my bandwidth for December and have already used over 25% of this. Thanks, Well, I may have ran into this before. Type in df and see if your disk is full. It is worth a try at least. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS, is this better than what I have?
Dale wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: O3 makes binaries much, much bigger. Bigger binaries need more cacheload time. So bigger binaries are slower a lot of time. -fomit-frame-pointer is fine, fmpgmath=sse may or may not make your apps slower or faster. msse, mmmx, m3dnow are (mostly) harmless. Should I change the -O3 to something else? I have another rig that may need smaller binaries. The drive is full. This may help on it too. What you think? Dale :-) Personally I stick to -O2 since -O3 usually won't do much in reality. -O3 takes longer to compile, and there is very little or no gain at all (and sometimes the gain is negative). If space is the most important issue you might want to compile for smallest possible binary, e.g. -Os -Kristian Poul Herkild -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] C++ missing
Dale wrote: Mike Kenny wrote: I am trying to install gentoo from the web by following the steps in the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook for a stage 1 install. This works well up to a point. When I execute # emerge --emptytree system after some time the process terminates with a message similar to cd ../obj_s; -I../c++ -I../include -I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.4-r6/work/ncurses-5.4/c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.4-r6/work/ncurses-5.4/c++/../include -I. -I../include -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC -c /var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.4-r6/work/ncurses-5.4/c++/cursesf.cc /bin/sh: line 1: -I../c++: No such file or directory make: *** [../obj_s/cursesf.o] Error 127 (I say similar because the output above is from executing make within the relevant directory -var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.4-r6/work/narrowc/c++) Inspecting the Makefile shows that there is no value defind for CXX. As g++ does not appear to exist within my chrooted environment I did attempt to set this to gcc, but this failed with a notice the c++ was not installed. I believe I must have messed up something in creating my chroot environment as g++ exists elsewhere. But I can't figure what that might have been. I have also tried executing the instructions for installing gcc 3.4 in the hope that this would give me a c++ compiler, but this failed with the same error as above. Any ideas on how I should proceed? I am loathe to restart as a) I don't yet see what I can do differently and b) I have a 2GB cap on my bandwidth for December and have already used over 25% of this. Thanks, Well, I may have ran into this before. Type in df and see if your disk is full. It is worth a try at least. Dale :-) Thanks for the reply Dale. The output of df in my chroot environment is: df: cannot read table of mounted filesystems: No such file or directory I am not clear on what the cause of significance of this is. On the actual system (i.e. not in chroot) the output is: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on tmpfs 252M 5.2M 247M 3% / /newroot/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 59M 59M 0 100% /mnt/cdrom /dev/loop/052M 52M 0 100% /mnt/livecd tmpfs 252M 1.2M 251M 1% /lib/firmware /dev/hda3 1.4G 596M 785M 44% /mnt/gentoo /dev/hda1 130M 13K 123M 1% /mnt/gentoo/boot I expect this would provide me with sufficient space? I was incorrect in my previous email, executing g++ outside of the chroot results in: sh: line 1: /usr/bin/gcc-config: No such file or directory gcc-config error: Could not get compiler binary path: No such file or directory But this may be a result of my attempt to emerge gcc 3.4.4? -- mike kenny Linux Registered User #381724 LPI ID# 80080 Hell, there are no rules here, we're just trying to accomplish something Thomas Edison -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS, is this better than what I have?
Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Personally I stick to -O2 since -O3 usually won't do much in reality. -O3 takes longer to compile, and there is very little or no gain at all (and sometimes the gain is negative). If space is the most important issue you might want to compile for smallest possible binary, e.g. -Os -Kristian Poul Herkild Thanks, I may try that -Os on my rig with the tiny drive. I'm pruning it right now. It's so full it can't compile. LOL -O2 huh. May give that a shot too. I've got a emerge -e world with the gcc update so . . . . . Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS, is this better than what I have?
Robert Crawford wrote: On Sun December 4 2005 4:11 am, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: -mfpmath=sse is not a good idea, the consensus is it actually lowers performance. -msse -mmmx -m3dnow are redundant (implied by -march=athlon-xp), and should be removed from your cflags line, but SHOULD be placed in your USE= line, wthout the - sign, like this: USE=mmx 3dnow sse If you use gcc-3.4.4, these flags should work fine (I've used them for a long time- no problems). CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fweb -ftracer -fprefetch-loop-arrays -ffast-math -falign-functions=64 -fno-ident CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden Hmm... according to this thread http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=43648 and the GCC manual -march does not imply -mmx -msse -m3dnow, nor does it imply mfpmath=sse. I know of no consensus of -mfpmath=sse lowering performance. Actually, I only know of the opposite from the LFS-community as well as Gentoo Wiki. I don't want to start a flamewar on this, so if you have other and more correct information than me, then please share it :) -Kristian Poul Herkild -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
Dale schreef: LOL It helped a little bit, but not much. swifty / # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 3564108 3505584 58524 99% / udev12738880127308 1% /dev /dev/hda148312 37412 10900 78% /boot none 127388 0127388 0% /dev/shm swifty / # Any more ideas? I would hate to have to remove KDE from that thing. OK, ideas 1 (Traditional): delete the contents of /usr/portage/distfiles. These are the downloaded tarballs of the programs you have previously installed. Since they are already installed, the tarballs are no longer needed unless you reinstall the same program, soeleting these files only means that if you want to reinstall the same version of the same program, you'd have to download the tarball again. However, since you're on dialup, this might be a problem for you. So I would suggest that you burn any tarballs you consider 'precious' or difficult to acquire to CD or DVD (do you have a CD or DVD burner?) and *then* delete the contents of /usr/portage/distfiles. If you need to reinstall something that's difficult to download, you can pop the item back into /distfiles/ from the backup. I commonly do this for the Neverwinter Nights data tarball, which is 1GB of tarball, and I not only don't really want to be downloading that again (even on my 8Mbit ADSL line) when I want to reinstall NWN, but I don't need a gig of space being eaten on my / partiton either. The file doesn't change, so it's safe enough. 2 (Traditional, little-known): Check /var/tmp/portage. There is a directory for every compile you've done, and normally (when the compile completes successfully) the temp compilation files are replaced by a tiny .keep file. If the compile fails, however, the compilation files remain, taking up space-- sometimes a lot of space. Find the directories that take up more than a few KB and delete them. The program isn't installed anyway (since the compilation failed), so no harm done. 3 (Tough Love): You don't want to get rid of KDE, but there's a good chance you don't need all of KDE-- you might consider trimming it. This is the gigantic benefit of the split ebuilds; you don't have to have *all* of KDE, just the parts you need. You perhaps installed KOffice-- but do you actually need the spreadsheet and the presentation whatever? Uninstall KOffice and reinstall just KWord. Do you need the accessibility functions?The educational programs? The PIM, toys, and webdev programs? Etc, etc. If you have kde-meta installed, you might want to consider unmerging that, re-emerging just the split ebuilds for the KDE programs you use, then emerge depclean-ing the rest. 4. (Tough Love 1a): Do the above and switch to a 'lighter' WM-- you can perfectly well use KDE applications while using... oh, IceWM or Openbox or Fvwm-Crystal. I personally don't like KDE or most of its programs, but there are a few KDE programs I do use under Fvwm-Crystal (Krusader, K3b, KView). While of course this means I must have kdelibs, kdebase, and QT installed (and the Control Center to manage the KDE backend quickly for those few times its necessary), I don't *use* Konqueror, so I don't need it, and I don't have to have a gigantic KDE backend installed for no purpose (on my system). Using -kde in your USE flags can often eliminate some cruft when installing such programs (because I don't use the KDE backend for the applications, I don't need the KDE setup tool for K3b, or the linkages that optional KDE support creates when installing Krusader). Think about it. 5 (Tough Love 2): Consider not keeping every d*mn thing on your computer's drive all the time. Back lesser-used personal data files off the disk (twice, if you're thorough) and *delete them from the disk*. If you need the file, copy it back from the CD-- or use it from the CD, if it's like a movie or something. The originals don't have to be sitting there taking up space just because. And you should back up anyway (it's good policy). 6 (External Tools): Consider emerging/using /kgraphspace/ (if you must have a KDE application), or /xdiskusage/ to see what is actually taking up the space. Once you have located what directories contain files that are taking up too much space, you can determine what to do with them (delete, back up, whatever). Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] C++ missing
FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on tmpfs 252M 5.2M 247M 3% / /newroot/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 59M 59M 0 100% /mnt/cdrom /dev/loop/052M 52M 0 100% /mnt/livecd tmpfs 252M 1.2M 251M 1% /lib/firmware /dev/hda3 1.4G 596M 785M 44% /mnt/gentoo /dev/hda1 130M 13K 123M 1% /mnt/gentoo/boot I expect this would provide me with sufficient space? I was incorrect in my previous email, executing g++ outside of the chroot results in: sh: line 1: /usr/bin/gcc-config: No such file or directory gcc-config error: Could not get compiler binary path: No such file or directory But this may be a result of my attempt to emerge gcc 3.4.4? You should have plenty of space then. You are not half way there yet. If you put a full KDE on there, it will be close. You may want to do a env-update then exit the chroot. Just type in env-update the exit to exit. Then go back and chroot in again following this: mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash env-update source /etc/profile It may tell you proc is already mounted. If it does, that's OK. Next step. Whatever you do, don't start over. Most anything can be fixed and it will save you from downloading all the stuff again. If you do start over, try to save /usr portage. That is where it puts the downloaded stuff. If chroot'ing in don't help, me clueless. Maybe a serious guru will come along and help. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] C++ missing
Dale wrote: You should have plenty of space then. You are not half way there yet. If you put a full KDE on there, it will be close. You may want to do a env-update then exit the chroot. Just type in env-update the exit to exit. Then go back and chroot in again following this: mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash env-update source /etc/profile It may tell you proc is already mounted. If it does, that's OK. Next step. Whatever you do, don't start over. Most anything can be fixed and it will save you from downloading all the stuff again. If you do start over, try to save /usr portage. That is where it puts the downloaded stuff. If chroot'ing in don't help, me clueless. Maybe a serious guru will come along and help. Dale :-) Thanks for the effort, but I have tried all this. So now, rather than start from scratch I am going to install from a stage3 and move on from there. This should work and as I am pushed now to get an openXchange configuration setup, this will do for now. Once I have it stable it should be possible to go back and re-install from source, I guess. -- mike kenny Linux Registered User #381724 LPI ID# 80080 Hell, there are no rules here, we're just trying to accomplish something Thomas Edison -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
Holly Bostick wrote: OK, ideas 1 (Traditional): delete the contents of /usr/portage/distfiles. Already gone. I use http-replicator from my main rig. I do wish I could tell emerge to delete them after it finishes compiling though. 2 (Traditional, little-known): Check /var/tmp/portage. It will be gone shortly. I didn't know if it would bork my system if I deleted them or not. 3 (Tough Love): You don't want to get rid of KDE, but there's a good chance you don't need all of KDE-- you might consider trimming it. I plan to let my mom use it if I move so I hope I can keep it all. Good idea though. I can't even remember what all I installed now. Most likely the whole thing though. ;) 5 (Tough Love 2): Consider not keeping every d*mn thing on your computer's drive all the time. Right now, it only runs folding. I have logged into KDE a couple times but never been on the net. Just making sure it would work is all. 6 (External Tools): Consider emerging/using /kgraphspace/ (if you must have a KDE application), or /xdiskusage/ to see what is actually taking up the space. Once you have located what directories contain files that are taking up too much space, you can determine what to do with them (delete, back up, whatever). I had never heard of these. Sort of funny, I need room but I need to install something to see what can go. LOL I'll check into it though, for my main rig for sure. Hope this helps, Holly I did remove a kernel that I am not using. I also pruned a few other things that was not needed. I was at 92% or so, now I am at 70%. That /var/tmp/portage was pretty big. At least I can run folding now. Thanks for the help. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] dns+mail server is good or bad?
Dear friends, is it a good idea to deploy a dns server + mail server on one server? -- ... The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? \^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\ | |-w | | || | 2.6.14-gentoo-r2-sinhalese-r1.0 (((o)))~--~--~-- Proud to be a Sinhalese. SINHALESE ARE GENIUSES OF IRRIGATION http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~sydney/sinhales.htm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dns+mail server is good or bad?
On 18:28 Sun 04 Dec , El Nino wrote: Dear friends, is it a good idea to deploy a dns server + mail server on one server? -- ... The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? \^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\ | |-w | | || | 2.6.14-gentoo-r2-sinhalese-r1.0 (((o)))~--~--~-- Proud to be a Sinhalese. SINHALESE ARE GENIUSES OF IRRIGATION http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~sydney/sinhales.htm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, Yes, it's even quite obligatory if you use qmail, as it doesn't use /etc/hosts for resolution. i have djbdns+qmail and all is working wonderfully. Of course it' possible to have separate servers for them, much depends on your requirements. HTH.Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gcc Upgrade Problem
Hi all, I was upgrading gcc using the directions in the GCC Upgrade Guide. All was going well. I was user what the Guide refers to as the safer method. I got to the 321 of 642 mark and the upgrade bombed. The specific upgrade being done was cyrus-sasl. Early in the output it complained about both gdbm and berkdb USE flags being set. Then, a message was displayed that it would be best to build this package with berkdb and told me how to set this in my package.use file. The build waited 10 seconds and then proceeded. This occurred overnight, so I'm just finding this out. Immediately after waiting the 10 seconds for a response to the db issue, the build process displayed this message: * If you are still using postfix-sasl-saslauthd-pam-mysql for * authentication, please edit /etc/conf.d/saslauthd to read: * SASLAUTHD_OPTS=${SASLAUTH_MECH} -a pam -r * Don't forget to restart the service: `/etc/init.d/saslauthd restart`. I'm not exactly sure what this means. I do have mysql on my system and have to provide a password when I use the database associated with it, but beyond that, I don't know if I should be doing what this message is telling me or not. Assistance here would be appreciated. Again, a pause for 10 seconds occurred while waiting for a response, but since I was asleep and didn't give one, the build went ahead. The configure process completed and the make started. The last few lines before the make process bombed and the first couple of lines of the error message are as follows: ar cru .libs/libsasldb.a db_gdbm.o allockey.o ar: allockey.o: No such file or directorymake[2]: *** [libsasldb.a] Error 1 make[2]: *** [libsasldb.a] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20/sasldb' If I am interpreting this correctly, it the configure and build went ahead using gdbm rather than berkdb and the correction would be to edit my package.use file as previously indicated and rebuild. However, my issue is that since I was at the 321/642 point of doing the 'emerge -e' world' portion of the upgrade, I don't know how to rectify the problems and continue with the upgrade. Or do I have to start from scratch with the 'emerge -e world'? Can someone offer some guidance here? I apologize for the length of this, but wanted to make sure that I included all the details that might be relevant. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
Dale schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: 3 (Tough Love): You don't want to get rid of KDE, but there's a good chance you don't need all of KDE-- you might consider trimming it. I plan to let my mom use it if I move so I hope I can keep it all. Now, see, that's where you lose me because your mom *may* use the computer if you move, you want to keep every possibility of KDE available for her? What is your mother actually likely to use the computer for, if she in fact does use it (which you don't even know if she will)? If she's never heard of an MP3, and isn't likely to download any, she doesn't *need* amaroK/juK/noatun (kdemultimedia-meta), no matter how nice it is. Kscd (for audio CDs) will be fine. If she doesn't have any DVDs or download films, (k)mplayer and xine and its ilk are a waste of space. Is she really likely to change her wallpaper or window decoration a lot (or ever)? If not, kde-artwork is pretty pointless. Is she likely to administer users or create cron jobs? No? So much for kdeadmin-meta. Has she a digital camera or video camera? A fax? Does she edit graphics files? Take screenshots of her desktop? No? Well then The Gimp and kdegrapics-meta doesn't have to be there either. Does she do a lot of document editing? Of MSWord documents? Does she really need OO.o, or even KWord for this? Might abiword not be sufficient, or even kedit or kate? You see where I'm going with this. I admit that I'm a bit hot on this issue; my bf's mother was recently forced to accept a computer by her other son (hand-me-down). She does not know anything about computers, and in fact doesn't want this one (but everyone is figuring that she needs one, and once she gets used to it and sees the capabilities, she'll love it. I'm not so sure myself, but it could go that way, of course). At her recent birthday party, she was complaining that all of her friends and family (who are experienced, average users) were giving her advice like you need to get cable internet, and that sort of thing-- while she's trying to master Windows Solitaire *in order to* *learn how to use the mouse*. We have a printer (hand-me-down) to give her, but what's the rush when she doesn't know what a text file (or a *.doc file) is, or what programs are needed to open or view them-- in fact, she doesn't have any text documents-- much less a need to print said non-existent documents (which if needed she could create in Notepad just as well as OO.o Writer, and probably easier). I'm also hot on this issue because this was always my major complaint about Windows. Microsoft, like any company, wants to create a positive experience for the users of their product, so that the user will continue to buy their product. That's normal. What isn't normal, imo, is their design philosophy-- that the only (or most successful) way to ensure a positive user experience is to control the user's environment so severely that it only encompasses those areas that Microsoft is guaranteed to deliver a positive experience in. So MSOffice saves files in a proprietary format that MSOffice reads best. Optimization of webpages created in Frontpage (free with MSOffice) display perfectly in IE, and poorly in Mozilla. *.wmv files are beneficial to use due to the compression, but are hard to play in media players that are not WMP. And the list goes on-- though I'm still not sure why the \My * folders (Documents, Media, Music, etc) are placed on the C:\ drive by default when the most common way to fix Windows is to reformat and reinstall (thereby deleting your C:\My * files). The reason that I will not use Windows is that *the ability to control* *my environment is an essential part of a positive user experience* for me. Therefore I must object to your efforts to create a positive user experience for your mother by controlling her environment excessively. This position is supported by the fact that you *cannot* provide every single bell-and-whistle available-- you simply don't have the disk space. So for you, if you want to encourage your mother (and the greatest encouragement is a positive user experience), the best way to do that is to customize the PC to her actual needs, rather than trying to cover every possible eventuality of what you *think* she *might* want *someday*. I'd say, strip the system down to the bare minimum of what she's likely to need daily (and what the system can reasonably support to run quickly, since a slow computer is not part of a positive user experience), and let her get comfortable with that-- if she then expands her horizons and needs more functionality, she can ask you (mother-son bonding, an added benefit), or she can learn about Gentoo at her own pace and have the thrill of accomplishment just like you've had. Just my 5 Euros, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc Upgrade Problem
On 08:06 Sun 04 Dec , C. Beamer wrote: Hi all, I was upgrading gcc using the directions in the GCC Upgrade Guide. All was going well. I was user what the Guide refers to as the safer method. I got to the 321 of 642 mark and the upgrade bombed. The specific upgrade being done was cyrus-sasl. Early in the output it complained about both gdbm and berkdb USE flags being set. Then, a message was displayed that it would be best to build this package with berkdb and told me how to set this in my package.use file. The build waited 10 seconds and then proceeded. This occurred overnight, so I'm just finding this out. Immediately after waiting the 10 seconds for a response to the db issue, the build process displayed this message: * If you are still using postfix-sasl-saslauthd-pam-mysql for * authentication, please edit /etc/conf.d/saslauthd to read: * SASLAUTHD_OPTS=${SASLAUTH_MECH} -a pam -r * Don't forget to restart the service: `/etc/init.d/saslauthd restart`. I'm not exactly sure what this means. I do have mysql on my system and have to provide a password when I use the database associated with it, but beyond that, I don't know if I should be doing what this message is telling me or not. Assistance here would be appreciated. Again, a pause for 10 seconds occurred while waiting for a response, but since I was asleep and didn't give one, the build went ahead. The configure process completed and the make started. The last few lines before the make process bombed and the first couple of lines of the error message are as follows: ar cru .libs/libsasldb.a db_gdbm.o allockey.o ar: allockey.o: No such file or directorymake[2]: *** [libsasldb.a] Error 1 make[2]: *** [libsasldb.a] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20/sasldb' If I am interpreting this correctly, it the configure and build went ahead using gdbm rather than berkdb and the correction would be to edit my package.use file as previously indicated and rebuild. However, my issue is that since I was at the 321/642 point of doing the 'emerge -e' world' portion of the upgrade, I don't know how to rectify the problems and continue with the upgrade. Or do I have to start from scratch with the 'emerge -e world'? Can someone offer some guidance here? I apologize for the length of this, but wanted to make sure that I included all the details that might be relevant. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, At the end of that same quide there're some hints on most common errors. So to just continue on with the recompile run:#emerge --resume --skipfirst. But that will work only if no other emerge command was run in between. Later you could investigate about this error. It seems it just a matter of choosing the right way to authenticate. HTH.Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 update: python error...
Hi, I tried to update my gcc using emerge -e (Safer method) as described in gcc-upgrading-guide, but apparently I screwed something up. I did: emerge -uav gcc gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 source /etc/profile emerge -e system emerge -e world emerge -aC =sys-devel/gcc-3.3* Now whenever I start emerge (--sync, --depclean, or else), I get following error: obelix ~ # emerge --sync /usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Could someone explain me, what I did wrong, and how can I fix it? Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 update: python error...
Hi, On 14:58 Sun 04 Dec , Jarry wrote: Hi, I tried to update my gcc using emerge -e (Safer method) as described in gcc-upgrading-guide, but apparently I screwed something up. I did: emerge -uav gcc gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 source /etc/profile emerge -e system emerge -e world You need to emerge libstdc++-3.3.4 or similar which is needed for compatibility. You need a python to be recompiled with GCC-3.4.4 or have libstdc++. HTH.Rumen emerge -aC =sys-devel/gcc-3.3* Now whenever I start emerge (--sync, --depclean, or else), I get following error: obelix ~ # emerge --sync /usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Could someone explain me, what I did wrong, and how can I fix it? Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 update: python error...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On 14:58 Sun 04 Dec , Jarry wrote: Hi, I tried to update my gcc using emerge -e (Safer method) as described in gcc-upgrading-guide, but apparently I screwed something up. I did: emerge -uav gcc gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 source /etc/profile emerge -e system emerge -e world You need to emerge libstdc++-3.3.4 or similar which is needed for compatibility. You need a python to be recompiled with GCC-3.4.4 or have libstdc++. HTH.Rumen Hm, that seems to me like circulus vitiosus. In order to emerge libstdc++-3.3.4 I must have installed libstdc++-3.3.4, which I don't have, and which I want to emerge... I get the same error: emerge libstdc++-3.3.4 /usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I think, I forgot to do it between source /etc/profile and emerge -e system (mea culpa). But what now? Is there any way to fix it? Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
On 12/4/05, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL It helped a little bit, but not much. swifty / # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 3564108 3505584 58524 99% / udev12738880127308 1% /dev /dev/hda148312 37412 10900 78% /boot none127388 0127388 0% /dev/shm swifty / # Any more ideas? I would hate to have to remove KDE from that thing. In addition to Holly's comments, I would take a look at the output of emerge --pretend --prune. It is likely that you have some slotted packages that you do not use anymore and can delete. Old kernel sources (don't forget to manually remove the associated /lib/modules/kernel version directory) and old versions of KDE would be prime suspects. You can also delete just the distfiles that are no longer needed (because of upgrades or removed packages) with something like: mount / -o remount,atime touch --time=atime --date 01/01/2005 /usr/portage/distfiles/* emerge -De --fetchonly world mount / -o remount,noatime find /usr/portage/distfiles -type f -amin +60 -exec rm -v {} \; -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gcc Upgrade Problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, At the end of that same quide there're some hints on most common errors. So to just continue on with the recompile run:#emerge --resume --skipfirst. But that will work only if no other emerge command was run in between. Later you could investigate about this error. It seems it just a matter of choosing the right way to authenticate. HTH.Rumen -- Thanks for the response. I figured this out on my own. Duh, Colleen ... Try what the error messages say and read farther down in the documentation - you might get a hint! -- This is me talking to myself. I made the changes suggested by the error messages and did find that further down in the Guide it specified how to continue. The build continued and I've been building the remaining packages for a couple of hours now without any problems. I'm still getting used to and am constantly amazed at how good Gentoo documentation is. :-) Sorry for troubling the list! Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] postscript forcing A4 paper size was: kdm will not start
On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 14:18 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Nick Rout wrote: What the hell has xpdf got to do with any of this? Unless I am missing something, you are printing a ps document to the printer. Where does pdf fit into this? xpdf handles ps files. Joseph, have you tried File/Print/Properties/Page size=Letter/Save/Print in kpdf? -- Norberto Bensa 4544-9692 Ciudad de Buenos Aires, Argentina Nick might be right. Maybe I'm looking at wrong places. What application is used to send print job to a printer? I'm sending postscript file ps with command: lpr -P printer_name Kpdf will not open ps file. when save a print_job as pdf file and try to print it using kpdf, xpdf or gv it keeps asking for A4 size paper. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 04:42 -0600, Dale wrote: LOL It helped a little bit, but not much. swifty / # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 3564108 3505584 58524 99% / udev12738880127308 1% /dev /dev/hda148312 37412 10900 78% /boot none127388 0127388 0% /dev/shm swifty / # Any more ideas? I would hate to have to remove KDE from that thing. Little known things that may help: app-admin/localepurge Handy tool. Wipes locales that you don't use. ( 262 Mb here ) make sure you strip binaries, build them with -O2 or -Os instead of -O3. (debug info alone on my system is 490 Mb) Wipe old kernels. make clean in the one kernel dir you have left. /lib/modules : clean out things you don't have left. cd /usr ; du -ab |sort -n Look at the results, then use equery ( or qfile, qpkg, epm or any other tool) to look them up. emerge --prune ( handle with care... .) Remove tetex if you have it installed. ( Also make sure you set USE=-doc unless you really want API documentations ) Logs? Logrotate + compression. KDE: perhaps using split builds and only installing the pieces you need/want? //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] courier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Smith wrote: thanks, i thought that courier-imap relied on courier, so i assumed it would have emerged it, i was wrong, thanks for the help. If there's anything you need to know about courier-mta on gentoo, just let me know. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar Romper un sistema de seguridad los acerca tanto a ser hackers como el encender autos puenteando los convierte en ingenieros automotrices. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDky+EAlpOsGhXcE0RArAFAJ9X3v7wF05U56jWSpxB9w58bdk7jACfUL+o jk3KiUQtDFDCMbGwWDMMVy4= =ZmW5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Squirrelmail can't attach files!
My wife alerted me to a problem the other day with SquirrelMail-1.4.5 having a problem with attaching files. I tried it this morning and I couldn't attach files either. I would have just reverted to a previous version of Squirrelmail, but there doesn't seem to be one available. Any thoughts on this? I'm using mod_php-4.4.0 with apache-2.0.54. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dns+mail server is good or bad?
It's also a good idea to have more than one DNS server, IMO. First of all, HTML mail! Yuck. Back to the point, like DJB said somewhere, having more DNS servers than servers actually serving content is kinda useless. If your DNS server dies, you lose DNS and therefore mail... But if your mailserver dies, you still lose mail. If you have 2 mailservers, 2 DNS servers make sense of course. -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled] [Location ] :: [Israel] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] bash and keeping history
Hi everyone, There's one thing that has kind of been a little annoying since I started using gentoo a few months ago. That's the fact that when you open multiple bash logins, only the history of the last one logged out actually gets saved. Now I know that redhat saves all of them. Does anyone know how it does this? Is it a patch, a certain scripts, what? Anyhow, I think gentoo really needs this feature. It's a little annoying to lose all of your history when you've been working in multiple windows. Thanks.
[gentoo-user] Re: bash and keeping history
Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone, There's one thing that has kind of been a little annoying since I started using gentoo a few months ago. That's the fact that when you open multiple bash logins, only the history of the last one logged out actually gets saved. Now I know that redhat saves all of them. Does anyone know how it does this? Is it a patch, a certain scripts, what? Anyhow, I think gentoo really needs this feature. It's a little annoying to lose all of your history when you've been working in multiple windows. I'm not really sure what this does but I've used for over a year thinking it made all shell history buffers get saved to ~/.bash_history. I've never really tested to see what it does for sure. Its a bash built in called histappend that can be put into .bash_profile like this: shopt -s histappend -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS, is this better than what I have?
Chris Fairles wrote: Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Robert Crawford wrote: On Sun December 4 2005 4:11 am, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: -mfpmath=sse is not a good idea, the consensus is it actually lowers performance. -msse -mmmx -m3dnow are redundant (implied by -march=athlon-xp), and should be removed from your cflags line, but SHOULD be placed in your USE= line, wthout the - sign, like this: USE=mmx 3dnow sse If you use gcc-3.4.4, these flags should work fine (I've used them for a long time- no problems). CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fweb -ftracer -fprefetch-loop-arrays -ffast-math -falign-functions=64 -fno-ident CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden Hmm... according to this thread http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=43648 and the GCC manual -march does not imply -mmx -msse -m3dnow, nor does it imply mfpmath=sse. I know of no consensus of -mfpmath=sse lowering performance. Actually, I only know of the opposite from the LFS-community as well as Gentoo Wiki. I don't want to start a flamewar on this, so if you have other and more correct information than me, then please share it :) -Kristian Poul Herkild Straight from the source ../gcc-3.4.4/gcc/config/i386/i386.c {athlon-xp, PROCESSOR_ATHLON, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_3DNOW | PTA_3DNOW_A | PTA_SSE} includes mmx, sse, 3dnow and sse2 support making explicit delcarations in cflags redundant. and the others... {i386, PROCESSOR_I386, 0}, {i486, PROCESSOR_I486, 0}, {i586, PROCESSOR_PENTIUM, 0}, {pentium, PROCESSOR_PENTIUM, 0}, {pentium-mmx, PROCESSOR_PENTIUM, PTA_MMX}, {winchip-c6, PROCESSOR_I486, PTA_MMX}, {winchip2, PROCESSOR_I486, PTA_MMX | PTA_3DNOW}, {c3, PROCESSOR_I486, PTA_MMX | PTA_3DNOW}, {c3-2, PROCESSOR_PENTIUMPRO, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_SSE}, {i686, PROCESSOR_PENTIUMPRO, 0}, {pentiumpro, PROCESSOR_PENTIUMPRO, 0}, {pentium2, PROCESSOR_PENTIUMPRO, PTA_MMX}, {pentium3, PROCESSOR_PENTIUMPRO, PTA_MMX | PTA_SSE | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE}, {pentium3m, PROCESSOR_PENTIUMPRO, PTA_MMX | PTA_SSE | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE}, {pentium-m, PROCESSOR_PENTIUMPRO, PTA_MMX | PTA_SSE | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_SSE2}, {pentium4, PROCESSOR_PENTIUM4, PTA_SSE | PTA_SSE2 | PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE}, {pentium4m, PROCESSOR_PENTIUM4, PTA_SSE | PTA_SSE2 | PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE}, {prescott, PROCESSOR_PENTIUM4, PTA_SSE | PTA_SSE2 | PTA_SSE3 | PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE}, {nocona, PROCESSOR_PENTIUM4, PTA_SSE | PTA_SSE2 | PTA_SSE3 | PTA_64BIT | PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE}, {k6, PROCESSOR_K6, PTA_MMX}, {k6-2, PROCESSOR_K6, PTA_MMX | PTA_3DNOW}, {k6-3, PROCESSOR_K6, PTA_MMX | PTA_3DNOW}, {athlon, PROCESSOR_ATHLON, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_3DNOW | PTA_3DNOW_A}, {athlon-tbird, PROCESSOR_ATHLON, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_3DNOW | PTA_3DNOW_A}, {athlon-4, PROCESSOR_ATHLON, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_3DNOW | PTA_3DNOW_A | PTA_SSE}, {athlon-xp, PROCESSOR_ATHLON, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_3DNOW | PTA_3DNOW_A | PTA_SSE}, {athlon-mp, PROCESSOR_ATHLON, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_3DNOW | PTA_3DNOW_A | PTA_SSE}, {x86-64, PROCESSOR_K8, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_64BIT | PTA_SSE | PTA_SSE2 }, {k8, PROCESSOR_K8, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_3DNOW | PTA_64BIT | PTA_3DNOW_A | PTA_SSE | PTA_SSE2}, {opteron, PROCESSOR_K8, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_3DNOW | PTA_64BIT | PTA_3DNOW_A | PTA_SSE | PTA_SSE2}, {athlon64, PROCESSOR_K8, PTA_MMX | PTA_PREFETCH_SSE | PTA_3DNOW | PTA_64BIT | PTA_3DNOW_A | PTA_SSE | PTA_SSE2} cheers, chris I found another neat trick to find out what a flag sets/unsets. echo main(){} foo.c gcc -v -Q -march=athlon-xp foo.c churns out: options passed: -v -march=athlon-xp -auxbase options enabled: -feliminate-unused-debug-types -fpeephole -ffunction-cse -fkeep-static-consts -fpcc-struct-return -fgcse-lm -fgcse-sm -fgcse-las -fsched-interblock -fsched-spec -fsched-stalled-insns -fsched-stalled-insns-dep -fbranch-count-reg -fcommon -fargument-alias -fzero-initialized-in-bss -fident -fmath-errno -ftrapping-math -m80387 -mhard-float -mno-soft-float -mieee-fp -mfp-ret-in-387 -maccumulate-outgoing-args -mmmx -m3dnow -msse -mno-red-zone -mtls-direct-seg-refs -mtune=athlon-xp -march=athlon-xp replace -march=athlon-xp with any/all cflags you can think of to see what it sets cheers, chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] postscript forcing A4 paper size was: kdm will not start
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 10:55:06 -0700 Joseph wrote: On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 14:18 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Nick Rout wrote: What the hell has xpdf got to do with any of this? Unless I am missing something, you are printing a ps document to the printer. Where does pdf fit into this? xpdf handles ps files. Joseph, have you tried File/Print/Properties/Page size=Letter/Save/Print in kpdf? -- Norberto Bensa 4544-9692 Ciudad de Buenos Aires, Argentina Nick might be right. Maybe I'm looking at wrong places. What application is used to send print job to a printer? I'm sending postscript file ps with command: lpr -P printer_name Kpdf will not open ps file. when save a print_job as pdf file and try to print it using kpdf, xpdf or gv it keeps asking for A4 size paper. Look I am more confused than ever now, tell me if I have this right: 1. sql ledger produces a report in .ps format (call it report.ps) 2. lpr -P printer_name report.ps produces an A4 sized printout. 3. you say when save a print_job as pdf file and try to print it using kpdf, xpdf or gv it keeps asking for A4 size paper - what is producing this pdf file? sql-ledger or something like pstopdf? 4. does kprinter report.ps or kprinter report.pdf help at all? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 09:38:17 -0800, Steven Susbauer wrote: since I want the actual installed programs to stay even with a depclean, I add them to my world file ( equery l kde-base/ | grep kde-base /var/lib/portage/world ). That will put all kde-base files in world, even libraries and other dependencies. -- Neil Bothwick The quickest way to a man's heart is through his sternum. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash and keeping history
051204 Harry Putnam wrote: Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: when you open multiple bash logins, only the history of the last one logged out actually gets saved. I've used for over a year a bash built-in called 'histappend' that can be put into .bash_profile like this: 'shopt -s histappend' It's in 'man bash': search for 'histappend'. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] postscript forcing A4 paper size was: kdm will not start
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 13:24:11 -0700 Joseph wrote: [snip] Nick might be right. Maybe I'm looking at wrong places. What application is used to send print job to a printer? I'm sending postscript file ps with command: lpr -P printer_name Kpdf will not open ps file. when save a print_job as pdf file and try to print it using kpdf, xpdf or gv it keeps asking for A4 size paper. Look I am more confused than ever now, tell me if I have this right: 1. sql ledger produces a report in .ps format (call it report.ps) 2. lpr -P printer_name report.ps produces an A4 sized printout. 3. you say when save a print_job as pdf file and try to print it using kpdf, xpdf or gv it keeps asking for A4 size paper - what is producing this pdf file? sql-ledger or something like pstopdf? 4. does kprinter report.ps or kprinter report.pdf help at all? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] From Sql-Ledger when I select PS (postscript) + Screen it allows me to view it or save it as PS - postscript file. If I select PS (postscript) + printer, it goes directly to printer. I was even following this instruction (an excellent) document the explain some problems with tetex and ps paper size printing problem: http://www.tzekwangteo.org/latex/papersize.pdf I went through this document made the changes he suggested, but still doesn't help. I even restarted the computer, just to make sure the changes take effect but it doesn't help. When I sent the print job to a printer it keeps asking for A4 paper size? I'm already wasted almost two days on this silly problem. 1. Go buy some international standard size paper ;-) The whole world uses A4 except North America - oh wait that is the whole worldand it's probably only a couple of kilometres down to the stationers --oops a couple of miles... 2. seriously now. does this help? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=10362283 3. how is the printer set up? is it cups or something older and more basic? Take a look at the printer configuration. 4. Try the pdf route with acroread - it allows you to scale the printing to whatever paper size you like. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] postscript forcing A4 paper size was: kdm will not start
[snip] From Sql-Ledger when I select PS (postscript) + Screen it allows me to view it or save it as PS - postscript file. If I select PS (postscript) + printer, it goes directly to printer. I was even following this instruction (an excellent) document the explain some problems with tetex and ps paper size printing problem: http://www.tzekwangteo.org/latex/papersize.pdf I went through this document made the changes he suggested, but still doesn't help. I even restarted the computer, just to make sure the changes take effect but it doesn't help. When I sent the print job to a printer it keeps asking for A4 paper size? I'm already wasted almost two days on this silly problem. 1. Go buy some international standard size paper ;-) The whole world uses A4 except North America - oh wait that is the whole worldand it's probably only a couple of kilometres down to the stationers --oops a couple of miles... 2. seriously now. does this help? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=10362283 3. how is the printer set up? is it cups or something older and more basic? Take a look at the printer configuration. 4. Try the pdf route with acroread - it allows you to scale the printing to whatever paper size you like. Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the link. I did: texconfig dvips paper letter texconfig pdftex paper letter texconfig dvipdfm paper letter texconfig pdftex paper letter Still insisting on printing on A4 paper. My printer is set to letter, I have no problem printing from openoffice or any other application. Alternative solution to acroread would be a command line: ps2pdf -sPAPERSIZE=letter document_name.ps it generate the output I need, like before. I but what I need is the application to work correctly; it as it did before. I don't know what else to do. Moving out of Canada would be a bit hard, maybe I start writing petition to change paper size in Canada and US to A4 :-/ -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] pkg-config and qt4 in an ebuild
Hello. I am writing an ebuild for bookmarkbridge (bookmarkbridge.sf.net), which depends on qt-4.0.1. configure (by means of pkg-config) is not findind QtGui, although the file QtGui.pc is installed (as /usr/lib64/qt4/QtGui.pc). First of all, why QtGui.pc is not installed on a standard location? How is the best way of dealing whit this problem in an ebuild? Output of configure: ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --libdir=/usr/lib64 --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu checking for a BSD-compatible install... /bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ checking for C++ compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C++ compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ accepts -g... yes checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++... gcc3 checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for QtGui = 4.0.1... Package QtGui was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `QtGui.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'QtGui' found configure: error: Library requirements (QtGui = 4.0.1) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. Romildo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
It's relatively easy to delete the libraries from the world file. All I keep in there is stuff I know I want, like kscd or whatever. You also have to delete the 3.4.3 version numbers from the files, which can be a pain if you don't know how to use vi. It is for the most part easier to start with a blank slate; in my case I like having everything and deleting things I know I don't need, because otherwise I'm likely to forget something I do.After cleaning up the world file, depclean will remove the things I didn't need. On 12/4/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 09:38:17 -0800, Steven Susbauer wrote: since I want the actual installed programs to stay even with a depclean, I add them to my world file ( equery l kde-base/ | grep kde-base /var/lib/portage/world ). That will put all kde-base files in world, even libraries and otherdependencies.--Neil BothwickThe quickest way to a man's heart is through his sternum. -- Steven Susbauer
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with portage
and how do I compile all the packages, since these does not exist in world file? On 12/3/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/3/05, Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, there, When I do a emerge -epv world, not all the packages I have installed on the system appears, openoffice-bin for example. I have tried a emerge --regen, emerge --metadata, emerge sync, but nothing seemed to solve this. What can I do to fix my system? The missing packages should show up in: emerge --depclean --pretend If so, then you have packages installed that are not in your world file, probably because they were merged with --oneshot, or were included as a dependancy of something else that is no longer installed. If you want some of those packages in world, do emerge --noreplace pkgname. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:30:57 -0800, Steven Susbauer wrote: It is for the most part easier to start with a blank slate; in my case I like having everything and deleting things I know I don't need, because otherwise I'm likely to forget something I do. I've done it the other way around. unmerge the meta packages then run emerge depclean -p. Any programs I want to keep I add to world with emerge -n package. Then run depclean again until it contains nothing I want. -- Neil Bothwick CONGRSS.SYS corruptd... Re-boot Washington D.C? (Y/N) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] problems emerging kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.4.1-r1
Here is the output of the emerge command: test_commands.cc: In function `int main(int, char**)': test_commands.cc:240: error: no matching function for call to `KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(SMTPProtocol*, QStrIList, const char[5], const char[5])' command.h:176: note: candidates are: KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(const KioSMTP::AuthCommand) command.h:179: note: KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(SMTPProtocol*, const char*, const QString, KIO::AuthInfo) test_commands.cc:266: error: no matching function for call to `KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(SMTPProtocol*, QStrIList, const char[5], const char[5])' command.h:176: note: candidates are: KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(const KioSMTP::AuthCommand) command.h:179: note: KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(SMTPProtocol*, const char*, const QString, KIO::AuthInfo) test_commands.cc:283: error: no matching function for call to `KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(SMTPProtocol*, QStrIList, const char[5], const char[5])' command.h:176: note: candidates are: KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(const KioSMTP::AuthCommand) command.h:179: note: KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(SMTPProtocol*, const char*, const QString, KIO::AuthInfo) test_commands.cc:721:1: warning: NDEBUG redefined command line:8:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from test_commands.cc:723: command.cc: In constructor `KioSMTP::AuthCommand::AuthCommand(SMTPProtocol*, const char*, const QString, KIO::AuthInfo)': command.cc:201: error: `conn' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:201: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) command.cc:202: error: `client_interact' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:207: error: `sasl_client_new' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:208: error: `SASL_OK' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:209: error: `sasl_errdetail' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:214: error: `sasl_client_start' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:216: error: `SASL_INTERACT' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:221: error: `SASL_CONTINUE' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc: In destructor `virtual KioSMTP::AuthCommand::~AuthCommand()': command.cc:236: error: `conn' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:238: error: `sasl_dispose' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc: In member function `bool KioSMTP::AuthCommand::saslInteract(void*)': command.cc:248: error: `sasl_interact_t' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:248: error: `interact' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:248: error: expected primary-expression before ')' token command.cc:248: error: expected `;' before in command.cc:252: error: `SASL_CB_LIST_END' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:253: error: `SASL_CB_AUTHNAME' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:254: error: `SASL_CB_PASS' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:257: error: 'class SMTPProtocol' has no member named 'openPassDlg' command.cc:266: error: expected primary-expression before ')' token command.cc:266: error: expected `;' before in command.cc:269: error: `SASL_CB_USER' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc: In member function `virtual QCString KioSMTP::AuthCommand::nextCommandLine(KioSMTP::TransactionState*)': command.cc:330: error: `conn' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:332: error: `client_interact' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:333: error: `sasl_client_step' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:334: error: `SASL_INTERACT' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:339: error: `SASL_CONTINUE' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:339: error: `SASL_OK' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc:341: error: `sasl_errdetail' undeclared (first use this function) command.cc: At global scope: command.cc:245: warning: unused parameter 'in' Does anyone know how to solve this? Thanx, Claudio. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS, is this better than what I have?
On Sun December 4 2005 6:35 am, Dale wrote: Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Personally I stick to -O2 since -O3 usually won't do much in reality. -O3 takes longer to compile, and there is very little or no gain at all (and sometimes the gain is negative). If space is the most important issue you might want to compile for smallest possible binary, e.g. -Os -Kristian Poul Herkild Thanks, I may try that -Os on my rig with the tiny drive. I'm pruning it right now. It's so full it can't compile. LOL -O2 huh. May give that a shot too. I've got a emerge -e world with the gcc update so . . . . . Dale Have you deleted the content in /var/tmp/portage (not the directory itself)? That can get huge very quickly, and is only needed if you're troubleshooting failed emerges. It's where emerge does it's job with compile-time work files. A failed emerge of a large package can leave a file of hundreds of mb, and several of those quickly can reach GB's of wasted disk space. Robert Crawford -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] courier
On 12/4/05, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Smith wrote: thanks, i thought that courier-imap relied on courier, so i assumed it would have emerged it, i was wrong, thanks for the help. If there's anything you need to know about courier-mta on gentoo, just let me know. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar do you know of any good how-to's using just courier-mta? not just with courier-imap and a mix of other programs? and tips or tricks you care to share? any problems i should look out for? thanks for the help. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 update: python error...
Pongracz Istvan wrote: Hi, As I can remember, the livecd has a binary. You can copy that library to your /usr/lib and use it to fix your problem. Or: You can make a symlink to the newer libstdc++, maybe can work. I have successfully used a symlink in the past but your mileage may vary. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] gentoo-sources
Hi, An idea came to my mind. I'm a proud Gentoo User, and I see day by day how portage gets clever and how my Gentoo distro does work better everyday. I'm gonna make a very little proposal (maybe it's now developed, but I've no idea how to make it work). Since Linux Kernel has become so big (almost 300MB) I'd like to suggest something. I don't want to download newer versions of Linux kernel, because my computer does work perfectly with the current one (maybe I'll install a very later one, but I'm not going to change my 2.6.11 with a 2.6.14). I don't want portage to download them, nor install them, because always that portage downloads and installs them, I've to do an emerge unmerge, it's a lot of space disk, and I need it. If I set gentoo-sources in package.mask, the apps, libraries that depends on it won't install, and an emerge -vuD world will fail, and won't update other packages. Well, if it's a critical dependance I'll have to install new kernel version, but If it is not, why?. Thanks, Rafael Fernández López. -- A la vista de suficientes ojos todos los errores resultan evidentes - Linus Torvalds pgpnScYSaIY0x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
Richard Fish wrote: In addition to Holly's comments, I would take a look at the output of emerge --pretend --prune. Funny, that was what I did. Even though it is a recent install it still had several version of some stuff. It took up a bit of room too. You can also delete just the distfiles that are no longer needed (because of upgrades or removed packages) with something like: I do that pretty regular anyway. I have my main rig set up as a http-replicator server and it only takes a minute or so to download the files on my LAN. It also saves on my dial-up connection. You guys really com up with some ideas. Anybody have a cure for psoriasis? I'm disabled from it maybe you can come up with some ideas. The Doctors managed to make it worse though. I was at 1% when I first went to them, I'm at about 80% now. Needless to say, I don't see Doctors anymore. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emerge -P kde-3.4.3
A couple of days ago someone posted a magic incantation to prune kde-3.4.3 from its slot. I can't find it again not even in my own mailboxes. I may have imagined it, if not point me to it please. -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources
On Sunday 04 December 2005 05:56 pm, Rafael Fernández López [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to download newer versions of Linux kernel, because my computer does work perfectly with the current one. If I set gentoo-sources in package.mask, an emerge -vuD world will fail, and won't update other packages. # echo 'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11*' /etc/portage/package.mask You can't mask the whole package, because you need /some/ kernel. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS, is this better than what I have?
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 17:49:16 -0500, Robert Crawford wrote: Have you deleted the content in /var/tmp/portage (not the directory itself)? It doesn't matter if you delete the directory too, portage will create it when needed. However, it is inadvisable to delete the entire directory if it contains your ccache cache. -- Neil Bothwick If only the good die young then what does that say about senior citizens? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -P kde-3.4.3
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 23:45:13 +, Tony Davison wrote: A couple of days ago someone posted a magic incantation to prune kde-3.4.3 from its slot. This one? qpkg -I -nc -g kde-base | xargs emerge -P -- Neil Bothwick Vuja De: the feeling that you've never been here before. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS, is this better than what I have?
On Sun December 4 2005 6:37 am, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Robert Crawford wrote: On Sun December 4 2005 4:11 am, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: -mfpmath=sse is not a good idea, the consensus is it actually lowers performance. -msse -mmmx -m3dnow are redundant (implied by -march=athlon-xp), and should be removed from your cflags line, but SHOULD be placed in your USE= line, wthout the - sign, like this: USE=mmx 3dnow sse If you use gcc-3.4.4, these flags should work fine (I've used them for a long time- no problems). CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fweb -ftracer -fprefetch-loop-arrays -ffast-math -falign-functions=64 -fno-ident CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden Hmm... according to this thread http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=43648 and the GCC manual -march does not imply -mmx -msse -m3dnow, nor does it imply mfpmath=sse. I know of no consensus of -mfpmath=sse lowering performance. Actually, I only know of the opposite from the LFS-community as well as Gentoo Wiki. I don't want to start a flamewar on this, so if you have other and more correct information than me, then please share it :) -Kristian Poul Herkild No flame war- if my conclusions/understanding is incorrect, I'd love to know, and make corrections! I think that almost 3 year old thread refers to -march=cpu ( now deprecated for -mtune), not -march=athlon-xp (the actual architecture). -march=cpu type or -mtune generates not only code for say, athlon-xp, but also code for the entire family of i386 cpus. Thus the resulting binary is functional with different older cpus. On the other hand, -march=athlon-xp generates only code that works with an athlon-xp cpu, thus would be more tuned to that cpu (less bloat). At least that's the theory- why compile in code you don't need and use for other cpus? My understanding of man gcc is that -march=athlon-xp does enable mmx 3dnow sse support. In other words, from a freshmeat article: - -march implies -mcpu, so when you use -march, there's no need to use -mcpu. -mcpu generates code tuned for the specified CPU, but it does not alter the ABI and the set of available instructions, so you can still run the resulting binary on other CPUs. When you use -march, you generate code for the specified machine type, and the available instructions will be used, which means that you probably cannot run the binary on other machine types. For example, from this thread http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=275851, page 3, bottom: If I compile with -march=athlon-xp, sse, 3dnow, and mmx are enabled (through the -D__athlon_sse__ -D__tune_athlon__ -D__tune_athlon_sse__ -D__SSE__ -D__MMX__ -D__3dNOW__ -D__3dNOW_A__ macros). When I add, for example -mmmx, -mno-mmx appears after -mmmx in the options enabled list in the output of gcc -Q -v -march=athlon-xp -mmmx. However, -D__MMX__ doesn't go away, so MMX is still used. In short -mmmx, -msse, and -m3dnow are unneccessary, but they don't hurt.undefined Over the years, I've read similar statements by experienced people on hundreds of posts on many forums and groups- sorry I can't point you to them off the top of my head. If you can wade through the huge cflags central Gentoo forum threads (an ordeal in itself), you will probably reach the same conclusions I have. Also, as I understand it from some recent posts, compiling in mmx 3dnow sse support is pointless bloat in any programs that don't use it, thus putting them in USE= makes much more sense than cflags. As for-mfpmath=sse, every benchmark testing article (and several more recent forum posts I've seen indicate no real performance gain, and in many cases, degraded performance, at least with AMD cpus. That's contrary to what man gcc generally says, but people who have actually run tests tend to disagree. Keep in mind that the version of gcc used and cpu type (AMD or INTEL) also influences the results. However, If anyone knows of more recent info on this flag, please post a link. Robert Crawford -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Seeking USB help
Hi, I have an ancient Dell Inspiron 3000 running Gentoo with a 2.6.14 kernel. I'm trying to get USB to work. # grep USB .config | grep =y$ CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y CONFIG_USB=y CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_OHCI_LITTLE_ENDIAN=y CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG=y CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y CONFIG_USB_MON=y But when I plug something into the USB port, lsusb shows nothing: # lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID : (The two USB devices I have tried are a Logiteh Trackman Wheel and a Creative Webcam Notebook) This is what lshw has to say about USB: *-usb description: USB Controller (UHCI) product: 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1.2 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:01.2 version: 01 clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd resources: ioport:fcc0-fcdf irq:10 And this is what's in my /proc filesystem: # cat /proc/bus/usb/devices T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06 S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 uhci_hcd S: Product=UHCI Host Controller S: SerialNumber=:00:01.2 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms In contrast, if I plug the camera into a Linux system with a working USB, I get much more, including: T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=02 Dev#= 3 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=041e ProdID=401f Rev= 1.00 Which is indeed the Creative webcam, so I know it is working at least to that extent. What am I missing to get USB working on my laptop? Any suggestions? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
I want to print to letter size paper. I'm using Sql-Ledger to print invoices, program is set to print with command: lpr -P Printer Name Sql-Ledger is using latex forms to generate invoices. So to my understanding the program will be using dvips to convert latex to postscript and send it directly to printer, am I right? Is there any other utility that conversion goes through, that I've missed? This is setting of: /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps: % This shows how to add your own map file. % Remove the comment and adjust the name: % p +myfonts.map @ letterSize 8.5in 11in @ A4size 210mm 297mm @+ %%PaperSize: A4 @ letter 8.5in 11in @+ %%BeginPaperSize: Letter @+ letter @+ %%EndPaperSize Should the these two line be commented out: @ A4size 210mm 297mm @+ %%PaperSize: A4 Be default postscript is printing to letter size perer. How to check? Where else should I look? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Optical mouse lights off on kernel 2.6.14 but works on kernel 2.4.30
Hi there, I got a new VCOM optical mouse, model C235-PS2-V. And I'm having problems with it. On Windows XP or with the Linux kernel 2.4.30 (OpenMosix) it works fine. But on linux kernel 2.6.14-r2 (Gentoo Sources), it lights off and stays off unless I halt the system. I believe this is related to udev for two reasons, one because the 2.4 kernel uses devfs unstead of udev, and also because the light goes off when udev is starting. On the dmesg log, there are two entries related to the mouse: mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1 The mouse buttons work, but when I press any of them, the cursor goes to the top-right corner of the screen and stays there. Does anybody has any idea of what might be wrong, or how to create a udev rule so the mouse device works as in devfs? Thanks for the attention, Raphael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] What package contains startkde
I've unmerged several kde packages from what was originally probably a full kde install. Now on starx the startkde command cannot be found. I hate to reinstall everthing I unmerged just to find this command. These are the candidates from emerge.log 1132029646: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics-3.3.2-r2 1133109258: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics 1133721861: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r2 1133721955: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 1133722049: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin-3.3.2 1133722086: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 1133722165: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1 1133722205: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.5.0 1133722232: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.4.3 1133722681: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.1 Some of these were unmerged because I had the same package from 3.4 installed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 18:05 -0700, Joseph wrote: I want to print to letter size paper. I'm using Sql-Ledger to print invoices, program is set to print with command: lpr -P Printer Name Sql-Ledger is using latex forms to generate invoices. So to my understanding the program will be using dvips to convert latex to postscript and send it directly to printer, am I right? Is there any other utility that conversion goes through, that I've missed? This is setting of: /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps: % This shows how to add your own map file. % Remove the comment and adjust the name: % p +myfonts.map @ letterSize 8.5in 11in @ A4size 210mm 297mm @+ %%PaperSize: A4 @ letter 8.5in 11in @+ %%BeginPaperSize: Letter @+ letter @+ %%EndPaperSize Should the these two line be commented out: @ A4size 210mm 297mm @+ %%PaperSize: A4 Be default postscript is printing to letter size perer. How to check? Where else should I look? -- #Joseph Partial success. I can save in pdf file and print it using cups it works but I can not set the right letter size in dvips. I've tired the commands: texconfig dvips paper letter texconfig xdvi us It doesn't work. Printer is still asking for A4 paper size. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What package contains startkde
kdebase, I believeOn 12/4/05, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've unmerged several kde packages from what was originally probably afull kde install.Now on starxthe startkde command cannot be found.I hate to reinstall everthing I unmerged just to find this command. These are the candidates from emerge.log1132029646:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics-3.3.2-r21133109258:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics1133721861:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdebase- 3.3.2-r21133721955:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r71133722049:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin-3.3.21133722086:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 1133722165:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r11133722205:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.5.01133722232:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.4.31133722681:*** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin- 3.4.1Some of these were unmerged because I had the same package from 3.4 installed.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Steven Susbauer
Re: [gentoo-user] What package contains startkde
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:27:28 -0600 Harry Putnam wrote: I've unmerged several kde packages from what was originally probably a full kde install. Now on starx the startkde command cannot be found. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp $ which startkde /usr/kde/3.4/bin/startkde [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp $ qpkg -f /usr/kde/3.4/bin/startkde kde-base/kdebase-startkde * One wonders how you are expecting startkde to work when you have uninstalled most of kde? I hate to reinstall everthing I unmerged just to find this command. These are the candidates from emerge.log 1132029646: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics-3.3.2-r2 1133109258: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics 1133721861: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r2 1133721955: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 1133722049: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin-3.3.2 1133722086: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 1133722165: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1 1133722205: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.5.0 1133722232: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.4.3 1133722681: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.1 Some of these were unmerged because I had the same package from 3.4 installed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:05:31 -0700 Joseph wrote: I want to print to letter size paper. I'm using Sql-Ledger to print invoices, program is set to print with command: lpr -P Printer Name Sql-Ledger is using latex forms to generate invoices. So to my understanding the program will be using dvips to convert latex to postscript and send it directly to printer, am I right? Probably, but not necessarily - look in the source and see what is called to make the document, or do some sort of tracing as the program runs. Is there any other utility that conversion goes through, that I've missed? This is setting of: /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps: % This shows how to add your own map file. % Remove the comment and adjust the name: % p +myfonts.map @ letterSize 8.5in 11in @ A4size 210mm 297mm @+ %%PaperSize: A4 @ letter 8.5in 11in @+ %%BeginPaperSize: Letter @+ letter @+ %%EndPaperSize Should the these two line be commented out: @ A4size 210mm 297mm @+ %%PaperSize: A4 Be default postscript is printing to letter size perer. How to check? Where else should I look? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: What package contains startkde
Harry wrote: . . . . . . Now on starx the startkde command cannot be found. Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: kdebase, I believe Sorry folks this was something of a false alarm or at least the wrong question. It wasn't really missing (startkde) but whatever package puts that bin directory in the path must have been unmerged or something similar. My .xinitrc had only: exec startkde And that has been enough until the unmerging of kde stuff. Now by adding the full path it works ok: exec /usr/kde/3.4/bin/startkde So anyone know which package would have been the one adding /usr/kde/3.4/bin to path? Again what I unmerged: 1132029646: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics-3.3.2-r2 1133109258: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics 1133721861: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r2 1133721955: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 1133722049: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin-3.3.2 1133722086: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 1133722165: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1 1133722205: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.5.0 1133722232: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.4.3 1133722681: *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Squirrelmail can't attach files!
On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 12:09 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: My wife alerted me to a problem the other day with SquirrelMail-1.4.5 having a problem with attaching files. I tried it this morning and I couldn't attach files either. I would have just reverted to a previous version of Squirrelmail, but there doesn't seem to be one available. Any thoughts on this? I'm using mod_php-4.4.0 with apache-2.0.54. I fixed it. It was a permissions problem... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: What package contains startkde
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:27:28 -0600 Harry Putnam wrote: I've unmerged several kde packages from what was originally probably a full kde install. Now on starx the startkde command cannot be found. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp $ which startkde /usr/kde/3.4/bin/startkde [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp $ qpkg -f /usr/kde/3.4/bin/startkde kde-base/kdebase-startkde * One wonders how you are expecting startkde to work when you have uninstalled most of kde? I guess one will wonder even more why it runs fine here anyway. As posted originally, the heavy kde packages like kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r2, that were unmerged were an older version. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What package contains startkde
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 21:03:50 -0600 Harry Putnam wrote: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:27:28 -0600 Harry Putnam wrote: I've unmerged several kde packages from what was originally probably a full kde install. Now on starx the startkde command cannot be found. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp $ which startkde /usr/kde/3.4/bin/startkde [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp $ qpkg -f /usr/kde/3.4/bin/startkde kde-base/kdebase-startkde * One wonders how you are expecting startkde to work when you have uninstalled most of kde? I guess one will wonder even more why it runs fine here anyway. As posted originally, the heavy kde packages like kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r2, that were unmerged were an older version. sorry I missed that bit LOL. Those path things usually get set in /etc/env.d/ - take a look in that dir, there are a whole lot of numbered files that set environment variables. they are execute in numerical order. Any package is free to insert a file there, but it doesn't pay to screw with it. The point being that when you upgrade kde the environment variable may not be reset until you re-read those files (which I think happens if you run env-update). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 15:57 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:05:31 -0700 Joseph wrote: I want to print to letter size paper. I'm using Sql-Ledger to print invoices, program is set to print with command: lpr -P Printer Name Sql-Ledger is using latex forms to generate invoices. So to my understanding the program will be using dvips to convert latex to postscript and send it directly to printer, am I right? Probably, but not necessarily - look in the source and see what is called to make the document, or do some sort of tracing as the program runs. Is there any other utility that conversion goes through, that I've missed? looking at the configuration file in sql-ledger it is looking for: latex, dvips or pdflatex, but making any changes to dvips makes no difference. it is hard to look in the source code if you don't know which file it is. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: What package contains startkde
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The point being that when you upgrade kde the environment variable may not be reset until you re-read those files (which I think happens if you run env-update). Haa that sounds like a very likely suspect and also a command I'd completely forgotten. I haven't checked it out yet just added that bin manually to my path but thinking about it here. I didn't upgrade kde recently, what I did was unmerge a number of what I took to be unneeded packages. I ran `equery depends ..' on all before unmerging and saw nothing there to raise an alarm. I sort of missed the thread that I noticed just now about how to purge kde so I was just using my own scheme. Is that scenario likely to require a reread of the scripts you mention or is it only an update that falls in there. More info.. Just now decided to check a bit before posting, I'm a little puzzled with the results. What I did: grep -rin 'kde.*bin' /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/45kdepaths-3.5:1:PATH=/usr/kde/3.5/bin /etc/env.d/45kdepaths-3.5:2:ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.5/sbin:/usr/kde/3.5/bin So yup, that is where it gets set but notice I'm running 3.4 so that wouldn't have help me. Then: equery belongs /etc/env.d/45kdepaths-3.5 [ Searching for file(s) /etc/env.d/45kdepaths-3.5 in *... ] kde-base/arts-3.5.0 (/etc/env.d/45kdepaths-3.5) Aha, here is the rub. I did uninstall kde-base/arts-3.4 and 3.5 since somewhere, I think a post of Holly's it was said it wasn't too essential and running `equery depends' on it seemed to bear that out. And in truth, it is not really essential. So, I'd be willing to bet and I'll soon find out that my uninstalling arts-3.4 is what caused my problem, ie my .xinitrc line without absolute filename to startkde (including path) failed. I guess the puzzler here is how kde-arts-3.5 ever got installed since I'm running 3.4. I didn't install it manually, it must have been pulled in by an update world. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] problems emergeing (through winxp shared connection)
Hi, I'm trying to emerge kde-meta, but i get stuck here (the error reproduces with emerge kde-meta): -- gentoo ~ # emerge kde-meta Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 278) dev-libs/glib-2.6.3 to / Resuming download... Downloading http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 --12:15:45-- http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2' Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org... 64.50.238.52, 64.50.236.52, 216.165.129.135, ... Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org[64.50.238.52]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do. Resuming download... Downloading http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 --12:15:46-- http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2' Resolving distro.ibiblio.org... 152.2.210.109 Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org[152.2.210.109]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do. Resuming download... Downloading ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.6/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 --12:15:47-- ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.6/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.gtk.org... 128.32.112.248 Connecting to ftp.gtk.org[128.32.112.248]:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Exiting on signal 2 - (I abort manually because it hangs up) I'm acceding Inet through a winxp shared connection (w/nat) (NOT a proxy, so http_proxy is unset), but there wasn't any problem with other emergeings or apps. (for example, i can ping, navigate, and emerge other packages too) what can i do? When i look at /usr/portage/distfiles there is a glib-2.6.3.ebuild so, why is emerge trying to download it? is there a manual way to install this package and in general any package that can`t be emerged traditionally? Here is some info: -- gentoo ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.0.51.22-r2 (default-linux/amd64/2005.1, gcc-3.4.3, glibc-2.3.5-r0, 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 x86_64) = System uname: 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.12 dev-lang/python: 2.3.5 sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.11 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r6 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.5 sys-devel/binutils: 2.15.92.0.2-r10 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.18-r1 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-pipe -O2 CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d CXXFLAGS=-pipe -O2 DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=amd64 X alsa avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups encode foomaticdb fortran gif gpm gtk gtk2 imlib ipv6 jpeg kde lzw lzw-tiff mp3 mpeg ncurses nls opengl pam pdflib perl png python qt quicktime readline sdl spell ssl tcpd tiff truetype-fonts type1-fonts usb userlocales xpm xv zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY Any suggestion welcome, bye
Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:29:05 -0700 Joseph wrote: On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 15:57 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:05:31 -0700 Joseph wrote: I want to print to letter size paper. I'm using Sql-Ledger to print invoices, program is set to print with command: lpr -P Printer Name Sql-Ledger is using latex forms to generate invoices. So to my understanding the program will be using dvips to convert latex to postscript and send it directly to printer, am I right? Probably, but not necessarily - look in the source and see what is called to make the document, or do some sort of tracing as the program runs. Is there any other utility that conversion goes through, that I've missed? looking at the configuration file in sql-ledger it is looking for: latex, dvips or pdflatex, but making any changes to dvips makes no difference. it is hard to look in the source code if you don't know which file it is. I think I have tracked down the code for printing to the file SL/Form.pm (I tracked it by grepping the source for outr likely commands, dvips, pdflatex etc.) Unfortunately I am not a perl guru, but there are clearly differences in processing between ps output and pdf output. For example there is a passage that shows that if the format is ps the following is executed: latex --interaction=nonstopmode dvips -o -q in the same point in the code, if the output is pdf it runs: pdflatex --interaction=nonstopmode Logically the difference must be in the execution of latex/dvips compared to pdflatex OR in the way that the printer is invoked. Which perhaps doesn't help, there may be other differences in the code that I didn't spot. Hey one more thing, when you ran those dvips setup commands and so on, do they take global effect or only for the user that ran them?? Taking a punt, it's unlikely that sql-ledger runs as your user, and if the commands you ran are per user rather than global, they won't have taken effect. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 17:25 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:29:05 -0700 Joseph wrote: On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 15:57 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:05:31 -0700 Joseph wrote: I want to print to letter size paper. I'm using Sql-Ledger to print invoices, program is set to print with command: lpr -P Printer Name Sql-Ledger is using latex forms to generate invoices. So to my understanding the program will be using dvips to convert latex to postscript and send it directly to printer, am I right? Probably, but not necessarily - look in the source and see what is called to make the document, or do some sort of tracing as the program runs. Is there any other utility that conversion goes through, that I've missed? looking at the configuration file in sql-ledger it is looking for: latex, dvips or pdflatex, but making any changes to dvips makes no difference. it is hard to look in the source code if you don't know which file it is. I think I have tracked down the code for printing to the file SL/Form.pm (I tracked it by grepping the source for outr likely commands, dvips, pdflatex etc.) Unfortunately I am not a perl guru, but there are clearly differences in processing between ps output and pdf output. For example there is a passage that shows that if the format is ps the following is executed: latex --interaction=nonstopmode dvips -o -q in the same point in the code, if the output is pdf it runs: pdflatex --interaction=nonstopmode Logically the difference must be in the execution of latex/dvips compared to pdflatex OR in the way that the printer is invoked. Which perhaps doesn't help, there may be other differences in the code that I didn't spot. Hey one more thing, when you ran those dvips setup commands and so on, do they take global effect or only for the user that ran them?? Taking a punt, it's unlikely that sql-ledger runs as your user, and if the commands you ran are per user rather than global, they won't have taken effect. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, here in order to print (sql-ledger selection) from to pdf -- (screen) and save it as file with the right setting: /usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg (should contain): page_width 8.5 true in page_height 11 true in horigin 1 true in vorigin 0.3 true in So if I print to file.pdf and open that file in kpdf it allows me to print that file directly to printer. The printer is not asking for A4 paper size. The out put goes though: cups. However, if I try to print pdf file to printer directly (sql-ledger selection): pdf -- printer. It keep asking me for paper size A4. The same scenario goes with PS (postscript sql-ledger selection): ps -- screen; save it to a file.ps. It allows me to print that file directly to printer. The printer is not asking for A4 paper size. The out put goes though: cups. But going through (sql-ledger selection): pdf -- printer. It keep asking me for paper size A4. So it only keep asking me for A4 paper size when the file is been redirected from Sql-ledger setting to printer: lpr -P printer_name The file: /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/conf has: % Set default paper size here p letter /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps: % This shows how to add your own map file. % Remove the comment and adjust the name: % p +myfonts.map @ letterSize 8.5in 11in @ letter 8.5in 11in @+ %%BeginPaperSize: Letter @+ letter @+ %%EndPaperSize So, I'm not sure if if the setting in ..dvips/config/config.ps take effect as the printer is asking me for A4 paper size, but it shouldn't. I need as well to figure out which file holds the setting margin setting, as I need to move it 1-in up. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash and keeping history
Thanks guys.On 12/4/05, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 051204 Harry Putnam wrote: Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: when you open multiple bash logins, only the history of the last one logged out actually gets saved. I've used for over a year a bash built-in called 'histappend' that can be put into.bash_profilelike this: 'shopt -s histappend'It's in 'man bash': search for 'histappend'.--,, SUPPORT ___//___,Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED]ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []|Centre for Urban Community StudiesTRANSIT`-O--O---'University of Toronto --gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 17:25 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:29:05 -0700 Joseph wrote: On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 15:57 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:05:31 -0700 Joseph wrote: I want to print to letter size paper. I'm using Sql-Ledger to print invoices, program is set to print with command: lpr -P Printer Name Sql-Ledger is using latex forms to generate invoices. So to my understanding the program will be using dvips to convert latex to postscript and send it directly to printer, am I right? Probably, but not necessarily - look in the source and see what is called to make the document, or do some sort of tracing as the program runs. Is there any other utility that conversion goes through, that I've missed? looking at the configuration file in sql-ledger it is looking for: latex, dvips or pdflatex, but making any changes to dvips makes no difference. it is hard to look in the source code if you don't know which file it is. I think I have tracked down the code for printing to the file SL/Form.pm (I tracked it by grepping the source for outr likely commands, dvips, pdflatex etc.) Unfortunately I am not a perl guru, but there are clearly differences in processing between ps output and pdf output. For example there is a passage that shows that if the format is ps the following is executed: latex --interaction=nonstopmode dvips -o -q dvips -o -q -o means: The output will be sent to file name If no file name is given, the default name is file.ps -q means quite mode. Here is the part that sends file to a printer, can any perl guru help us out??? How it converts to postscript file and which program is it using. # Convert the tex file to postscript if ($self-{format} =~ /(postscript|pdf)/) { use Cwd; $self-{cwd} = cwd(); chdir($userspath) or $self-error($self-cleanup.chdir : $!); $self-{tmpfile} =~ s/$userspath\///g; # DS. added screen and email option in addition to printer # screen if ($self-{format} eq 'postscript') { system(latex --interaction=nonstopmode $self-{tmpfile} $self-{tmpfile}.err); $self-error($self-cleanup) if ($?); $self-{tmpfile} =~ s/tex$/dvi/; system(dvips $self-{tmpfile} -o -q /dev/null); $self-error($self-cleanup.dvips : $!) if ($?); $self-{tmpfile} =~ s/dvi$/ps/; } if ($self-{format} eq 'pdf') { system(pdflatex --interaction=nonstopmode $self-{tmpfile} $self-{tmpfile}.err); $self-error($self-cleanup) if ($?); $self-{tmpfile} =~ s/tex$/pdf/; } -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] IMAP Server - authenticating off a Windows Domain?
Hi there, Does anyone have any experience of this, please? I have a number of users with roaming profiles on a Windows Domain Controller (SBS 2003). I don't want to use Exchange as a mailserver but instead an IMAP sever such as Courier (which I'm familiar with). Each user will have to change their password on the domain every couple of weeks and because I want to provide webmail access to their IMAP accounts it's desirable that their IMAP username password be the same as their Windows one. I don't mind adding users by hand on the Linux-based IMAP server but I would prefer that passwords be changed automatically - I guess the best way to do this is for the IMAP server to authenticate against the domain controller everytime the user logs on to their email? Has anyone any experience of this, please? TIA for any advice, Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] courier
On Dec 4, 2005, at 6:03 pm, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: Nick Smith wrote: thanks, i thought that courier-imap relied on courier, so i assumed it would have emerged it, i was wrong, thanks for the help. If there's anything you need to know about courier-mta on gentoo, just let me know. You're in luck! I've just started a new thread IMAP Server - authenticating off a Windows Domain? Perhaps you can help? Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bash and keeping history
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 12:11:45PM -0700, Trenton Adams wrote There's one thing that has kind of been a little annoying since I started using gentoo a few months ago. That's the fact that when you open multiple bash logins, only the history of the last one logged out actually gets saved. Now I know that redhat saves all of them. Does anyone know how it does this? Is it a patch, a certain scripts, what? Anyhow, I think gentoo really needs this feature. It's a little annoying to lose all of your history when you've been working in multiple windows. I read your post, and slapped together the following, which goes into ~/.bashrc. Warning... some backtick expansion included here. Is there a simpler way to find out which tty or pts you're running in? # If running interactively, then: if [ $PS1 ]; then # Set up a separate HISTFILE, depending on which tty we logged in # from. Convert slashes in tty names (e.g. pts/0) into underscores. mytty=`ps -ef | grep ${USER} | tail -n 1 | sed s/^.\{30\}// s/ .*$// sx/x_x` export HISTFILE=${HOME}/.history_${mytty} The command figures out which tty/pts we're launched in, and sets a history file containing the session name. One booby-trap is forward slashes, which aren't legal as filenames (they're interpreted as directories). -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] write to attached USB drv from windowsXP
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 12:28:03PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote Once more for clarity: I can access them from windows xp and view contents but cannot write to them. Let's see if I have this right... - the Windows XP machine is connected to the Gentoo machine - the Gentoo machine is connected to the external USB - the kneebone is connected to the legboneg I'm not familiar with samba, but the first question that comes to mind is whether the XP machine has write access to the mountpoints. Try the following... - unmount the external USB drive - can the XP machine write to the directories /usb1 and /usb2? -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:26:48 -0700 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have tracked down the code for printing to the file SL/Form.pm (I tracked it by grepping the source for outr likely commands, dvips, pdflatex etc.) Unfortunately I am not a perl guru, but there are clearly differences in processing between ps output and pdf output. For example there is a passage that shows that if the format is ps the following is executed: latex --interaction=nonstopmode dvips -o -q dvips -o -q -o means: The output will be sent to file name If no file name is given, the default name is file.ps -q means quite mode. Here is the part that sends file to a printer, can any perl guru help us out??? No, I don't think it sends anything to the printer. It is one stage of the conversion process - to either pdf or ps. It is the bit I identified in my last message (quoted above). But it doesn't actually send it to the printer as far as i can see. How it converts to postscript file and which program is it using. # Convert the tex file to postscript if ($self-{format} =~ /(postscript|pdf)/) { use Cwd; $self-{cwd} = cwd(); chdir($userspath) or $self-error($self-cleanup.chdir : $!); $self-{tmpfile} =~ s/$userspath\///g; # DS. added screen and email option in addition to printer # screen if ($self-{format} eq 'postscript') { system(latex --interaction=nonstopmode $self-{tmpfile} $self-{tmpfile}.err); $self-error($self-cleanup) if ($?); $self-{tmpfile} =~ s/tex$/dvi/; system(dvips $self-{tmpfile} -o -q /dev/null); $self-error($self-cleanup.dvips : $!) if ($?); $self-{tmpfile} =~ s/dvi$/ps/; } if ($self-{format} eq 'pdf') { system(pdflatex --interaction=nonstopmode $self-{tmpfile} $self-{tmpfile}.err); $self-error($self-cleanup) if ($?); $self-{tmpfile} =~ s/tex$/pdf/; } -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge history
Is there a way to tell which packages got upgraded in the past week? I have /etc/config-archive/ but if the configuration did not change it will not help me. One of the upgrades, has caused tetex sending wrong information during conversion to postscript and that is causing my my printer demanding A4 paper size. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 20:22 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:26:48 -0700 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have tracked down the code for printing to the file SL/Form.pm (I tracked it by grepping the source for outr likely commands, dvips, pdflatex etc.) Unfortunately I am not a perl guru, but there are clearly differences in processing between ps output and pdf output. For example there is a passage that shows that if the format is ps the following is executed: latex --interaction=nonstopmode dvips -o -q dvips -o -q -o means: The output will be sent to file name If no file name is given, the default name is file.ps -q means quite mode. Here is the part that sends file to a printer, can any perl guru help us out??? No, I don't think it sends anything to the printer. It is one stage of the conversion process - to either pdf or ps. It is the bit I identified in my last message (quoted above). But it doesn't actually send it to the printer as far as i can see. From what I have read the pdf file/document contains information if it is an A4 or a letter size format, postscript doesn't have this information. Something, I emerge during the last week have caused this change. As tetex is old package, it can not be tetex; in addition and I did not have to do any special configuration in tetex, everything just worked. Now, (in the last week) some packaged caused all the problem Is there a way to tell which packages were upgraded in the last week or two? Something like emerge history? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge history
Joseph wrote: Is there a way to tell which packages got upgraded in the past week? I have /etc/config-archive/ but if the configuration did not change it will not help me. One of the upgrades, has caused tetex sending wrong information during conversion to postscript and that is causing my my printer demanding A4 paper size. /var/log/emerge.log This is Linux, there is a log for everything. LOL You sneeze, it keeps a record of it. O_O Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL problem: wxGTK-2.4.2-r4 doesn't compile
On 12/4/05, Luigi Pinna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I have a problem with the opengl: if I emerge the wxGTK-2.4.2-r4 package (stable on AMD64 profile), I read that: [...] checking for GL/gl.h... yes checking for -lGL... no checking for -lMesaGL... no configure: error: OpenGL libraries not available !!! ERROR: x11-libs/wxGTK-2.4.2-r4 failed. If I try to use a game like ut2004 or only check the opengl setup from console, I have this error message: glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Looks like you need to run opengl-select to make links to your chosen GL implementation (I'm guessing you'll want the ATI implementation) in /usr/lib. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with portage
On 12/4/05, Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and how do I compile all the packages, since these does not exist in world file? Well, if you don't want to add them to world, the hard way: cd /var/db/pkg for x in */*; do emerge --oneshot =$x; done -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list