[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > about '[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages': >> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

[gentoo-user] Re: lpr quit working

2007-06-15 Thread James
James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > I have a postscript printer HP4000N that is working fine. > All printing works except lp or lpr when sending a plain > ascii file, If I print a postscript file with lpr it works fine. Well, I hate to answer my own posts, but, this file was missing from the ge

[gentoo-user] lpr quit working

2007-06-15 Thread James
Hello, I have a postscript printer HP4000N that is working fine. All printing works except lp or lpr when sending a plain ascii file, If I print a postscript file with lpr it works fine. So where cups is suppose to automagically convert the ascii file to postscript it fails. It all use to work

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/16/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages': > Suppose you've got the following "use case": Install all of > KDE, but leave out PPP stuff. > > How would

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages': > Suppose you've got the following "use case": Install all of > KDE, but leave out PPP stuff. > > How would you solve that? Intall all the kde*-meta packages except kde-m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages': > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The "ppp" flag is already "known" to portage. > > --(

[gentoo-user] [OT] Freeciv tourney? (Was: Linux Installers for Blizzard Products)

2007-06-15 Thread darren kirby
quoth the b.n.: > My luck is that all I want from gaming is freeciv. And freeciv runs on > Linux. Do you ever play networked games? We should organize an online game/tourney for interested freeciv fans in Gentooland... Any interest? -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: htt

[gentoo-user] Default CApath for openssl [was: Importing Certificate Authority]

2007-06-15 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 03:54:11PM -0400, Penguin Lover Willie Wong squawked: > But thanks to that, I got on the right direction: turns out that my > department switched from using a self-signed certificate to using one > from IPSCA, so I've been barking up the wrong tree when trying to > solve the

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Installers for Blizzard Products

2007-06-15 Thread b.n.
Kent Fredric ha scritto: > I argued I don't game any more _because_ of the lack of linux games > that were not already bored with. HIstorically, game dev's argument > has been along the lines of 'if they want to game, they'll just use > windows, or get a console'. > > What they don't realize, i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Importing Certificate Authority

2007-06-15 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 07:45:38PM +0200, Penguin Lover Xavier Parizet squawked: > >> So the certificate (I think) is here: > >> http://www.math.princeton.edu/math.crt > >> > >> How do I tell my computer to trust the certificate? (In particular, > >> with fetchmail?) > > Retrieve the cert

[gentoo-user] Re: Importing Certificate Authority

2007-06-15 Thread Xavier Parizet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, June 15, 2007 19:12, Xavier Parizet wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Fri, June 15, 2007 18:34, Willie Wong wrote: >> Hi group, >> >> Is there anyway of importing a certificate authority for just one >> user

Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling jpeg for kde

2007-06-15 Thread Mike Diehl
On Friday 15 June 2007 01:02:06 am Peter Alfredsen wrote: > On Friday 15 June 2007, Mike Diehl wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > I'm trying to emerge kde and I'm getting an error when the system tries > > to emerge media-libs/jpeg. > > > > So, where do I get crtbeginS.o and crtendS.o? > > > > TIA, > > > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Importing Certificate Authority

2007-06-15 Thread Xavier Parizet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, June 15, 2007 18:34, Willie Wong wrote: > Hi group, > > Is there anyway of importing a certificate authority for just one > user? > > My university/department uses a self-signed SSL certificate for > IMAPS, and since it was implemented

[gentoo-user] Importing Certificate Authority

2007-06-15 Thread Willie Wong
Hi group, Is there anyway of importing a certificate authority for just one user? My university/department uses a self-signed SSL certificate for IMAPS, and since it was implemented, 'fetchmail' from my machine always generates an error message fetchmail: Server certificate verifi

[gentoo-user] Throttled connection?

2007-06-15 Thread Mick
Hi All, Some times of the day connecting to a machine across the pond becomes really difficult (UK to USA). RealVNC crashes or takes ages, Skype breaks down, ssh hangs, etc. On the other hand http/https connections seem to work fine, or only slightly slower (this is all subjective, but it'll

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Dale
Peter Ruskin wrote: > > With big hard discs cheap and with ADSL > connection, the advantages of the meta packages are diminished. > > If I understand your meaning correctly, not everyone can get broadband. I'm on dial-up and it is all that is available here where I live. DSL may be here soon

[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Sorry for not being clearer. I meant USE flags in the -meta ebuilds, to > disable undesired apps like kppp. Sort of like: > > DEPEND=" > kde-base/this-app > !nokppp? ( kde-base/kppp ) > kde-base/tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > and a > > mechanism to put use flags into split ebuilds and let the devs > > decide which ones are worth persuing? > > With "split ebuilds" you mean for example the ebuild for kppp? Or > are you talking about the kde*-meta ebuilds? Sorry for not b

[ot] Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Installers for Blizzard Products

2007-06-15 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Daniel Iliev wrote: > I lost my interest in games mostly because I have changed. Heh, and I feel old, man! :) - A couple of days ago I installed descent3, of course under Gentoo, and I got nausea. Everything was moving afterwards :P Oh god I love

Re: [gentoo-user] Wha' hoppen to firestarter?

2007-06-15 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Roy Wright wrote: > but other times it also reports ports 80, 554, and 1755 open, which > has me really confused and concerned. Typical case when you scan from behind your ISP's NetApp NetCache appliance. Same thing happens in Argentina when using

[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: >> > Perhaps the best route (maybe a good feature request?) is to put >> > USE flags in the -meta ebuilds. >> >> That's what I'd like to get as a result of >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182106 >

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on Dell Servers

2007-06-15 Thread Mick
On Thursday 14 June 2007 22:29, kashani wrote: > Mick wrote: > > Guys, has anyone installed a gentoo LAMP on: > > > > Dell Server: > > == > > If yes, what are the gotchas, in terms of kernel config, hardware, etc? > > I have never installed a 64bit syste

Re: [gentoo-user] Wha' hoppen to firestarter?

2007-06-15 Thread Mick
On Thursday 14 June 2007 21:19, Roy Wright wrote: > I just switched to shorewall. I configured it to only allow in SSH, > but have one weirdy when I try to test using nmap -v -A -P0 in that > sometimes nmap reports only port 22 open and 113 closed as expected, > but other times it also reports po

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)

2007-06-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > Perhaps the best route (maybe a good feature request?) is to put > > USE flags in the -meta ebuilds. > > That's what I'd like to get as a result of > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182106 I see we're thinking along the same lines. Now, how

[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: >> I mean, what's the advantage of the kde*-meta packages over the kde >> package, when the kde*-meta require just as much "junk", as the >> kde package does? Hm, really, what's the use of the kde*-meta packa

[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yep. You get kde-meta or individual kde packages or you get your own > ebuild that depends on a number of KDE packages. The Gentoo developers do > quite a bit of work just to give us

[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I completely agree with Alexander about this. Meta (not only the kde ones) > packages should definitely have USE flags. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182106 Let's see how fast Jakub is to close that bug... In that bug, I'm only talking about

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)

2007-06-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: > I mean, what's the advantage of the kde*-meta packages over the kde > package, when the kde*-meta require just as much "junk", as the > kde package does? Hm, really, what's the use of the kde*-meta package > anyway? The -meta packages are a good ide

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)

2007-06-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)': > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, I suggest that a cleaner method would be to not insta

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar: > This would (obviously *g*) mean, that kde-meta cannot be installed > (just as you say). This means, that a whole "shit load" of packages > would need to be manually installed. And all that, just because you > don't want one or two packages?

[gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, I suggest that a cleaner method would be to not install kde-meta > or kdenetwork-meta at all but instead just install the KDE applications > that you require. Actually, I disagree. This would (obviously *g*) mean, that kde-meta cannot

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel upgrade, no sound.

2007-06-15 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Friday 15 June 2007, Dale wrote: > Well, you won't believe this but I rebooted into the newer kernel to get > the info for you, now it works fine.  O_O  I have sound when I change > desktops, it plays a CD fine, it seems to be working now. That's so great. I couldn't find any reason why it woul

[gentoo-user] Re: Make portage assume, that a package is installed

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Justin Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I encountered this one (there really should be a ppp flag for > the kdenetwork ebuild), I did this: I just filed a bug reg. this. It includes a "fixed" ebuild. See Bug #182099 at . Alexander Skwar -

[gentoo-user] Re: Make portage assume, that a package is installed

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Peter Alfredsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: >> So I tried to create the file in /etc/portage. Contents: >> >> --($:~)-- cat /etc/portage/package.provided >> kde-base/kppp-3.5.7 >> net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4-r8 > [...] >> Obviously, I'm doing something wron

Re: [gentoo-user] Make portage assume, that a package is installed

2007-06-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Make portage assume, that a package is installed': > Good morning! > > On my system, I did not install net-dialup/ppp. > But I'd now like to install kde-base/kde-meta, which will > pull in kde-base/kdenetwork-m

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel upgrade, no sound.

2007-06-15 Thread Dale
Peter Alfredsen wrote: > > If you post the output of this command: > lspci -s 01:0a.0 -n > We will have the PCI id to search for. Might make it easier to find bug > reports. > > The output of this command: > dmesg|egrep -i -A3 "(alsa|sound)" > Should give us an idea of whether your kernel actually

Re: [gentoo-user] Make portage assume, that a package is installed

2007-06-15 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Good morning! > > On my system, I don't use a modem and don't intend to ever > do so. Because of this, I did not install net-dialup/ppp. > But I'd now like to install kde-base/kde-meta, which will > pull in kde-base/kdenetwork-meta, which will pull i

Re: [gentoo-user] What's creating symlinks in /dev/disk?

2007-06-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar: > What "system" is creating those symlinks during boot? > Who is responsible for doing that? Is it udev? Or something > from util-linux? udev, of course :-) (60-persistent-storage.rules). Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Te

[gentoo-user] Re: Make portage assume, that a package is installed

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Justin Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On AD 2007 June 15 Friday 08:55:40 AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: >> On my system, I don't use a modem and don't intend to ever >> do so. Because of this, I did not install net-dialup/ppp. >> But I'd now like to install kde-base/kde-meta, which will >>

[gentoo-user] What's creating symlinks in /dev/disk?

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hello. Under /dev/disk, we find links that point to the devices which "host" a filesystem. For example, suppose there's a filesystem with the label "Home" and it's stored on the LV called "Home" on the "sys" VG (ie. /dev/sys/Home). We then find: --($:~)-- ls -la /dev/disk/by-label/Home lrwxrwxrwx

Re: [gentoo-user] Make portage assume, that a package is installed

2007-06-15 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2007 June 15 Friday 08:55:40 AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > On my system, I don't use a modem and don't intend to ever > do so. Because of this, I did not install net-dialup/ppp. > But I'd now like to install kde-base/kde-meta, which will > pull in kde-base/kdenetwork-meta, which will pul

Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling jpeg for kde

2007-06-15 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Friday 15 June 2007, Mike Diehl wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm trying to emerge kde and I'm getting an error when the system tries to > emerge media-libs/jpeg. > > So, where do I get crtbeginS.o and crtendS.o? > > TIA, > > > i386-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i386

[gentoo-user] Make portage assume, that a package is installed

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Good morning! On my system, I don't use a modem and don't intend to ever do so. Because of this, I did not install net-dialup/ppp. But I'd now like to install kde-base/kde-meta, which will pull in kde-base/kdenetwork-meta, which will pull in kde-base/kppp and this will finally pull in net-dialup/p