Re: [gentoo-user] Information request: root directory not listed by df
No this was not the full output from df. There was nowhere, however, any reference to /dev/sdc1, the filesystem where the root filesystem / is located. Only the lines in my earlier message: rootfs29694968 2877284 25309184 11% / /dev/root 29694968 2877284 25309184 11% / In /boot/grub/grub.conf the third line in the following specifies the / directory as /dev/sdc1, while /boot is in /dev/sda1. title Gentoo Linux 2.6.30-r4.02 root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.30-gentoo-r4.02 root=/dev/sdc1 Thank you for earlier remarks that clarified this issue to a satisfactory extent. Alan
Re: [gentoo-user] Where is mplayer?
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:48:05 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: The newest version of mplayer offered in todays sync is: media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090919-r1 It cannot be found in any of around a dozen repos that emerge tries http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285629 -- Neil Bothwick What I need is a list of specific unknown problems we will encounter. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB drive dead? (Commands to check?)
On 20 Sep 2009, at 01:01, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP seriously, I think you should try to get off everything you want to keep - and then replace the disk with a new one. If a disk starts throwing block errors it will only become worse. Don't worry about 'repairing' the file system as long as there is hardware damage. Try to get off the disk as much as possible - and then scrap it. I suspect you're right. It's just another $100 to go buy a new one Anyway, I'll see what I can set up to save the files that are still there. Although he seems to be demonstrating in this thread an inability to snip long sections of quoted text, leaving the reader with many lines of irrelevance to scroll through, I agree with Volker. If the drive fails you're going to be spending $100, anyway. If it fails without having been replaced your data pulled off it then you could find yourself floating down Effluent River and unable to start your outboard. I think this drive is quite likely to fail catastrophically, from my experience of having seen similar errors in the past. I really wouldn't trust this drive with important data right now. If you get your data off it and replace it in it's current capacity, there's nothing stopping you using it as a secondary drive in the future; I wouldn't trust it with important data right now, but if it's still chugging away in 6 months time then you can probably begin to have faith in it. Once you've gotten your data off the drive it wouldn't do any harm to format it nice with a clean filesystem; and writing a bunch of big unimportant files on the drive (e.g. `dd if=/dev/zero of=/ mnt/sda1/foo`) might allow it to map away a bunch of bad sectors. But right now you should probably act like the drive is definitely hosed. I don't think you should be saying oh, this might cost me $100, I hope it doesn't - you should be saying s#!t d...@mn! I had to buy a new hard-drive. But at least my data's ok. But maybe data isn't as important to you as it is to me. Relying on this drive for the backups of your Windows machines right now would be a mockery; around here sod's law would conspire for me to need one of those backups, were I to continue using a drive showing errors like this. I write as a guy you just bought yet another 500gb drive on Friday; I would too have preferred not to spend that money, but experience shows that frugality can sometimes be a mistake. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] zsh users, please vote for this bug
Hi, this is for all (wannabe) zsh users: Please vote for the following bug so that we can safely use zsh as root's login shell in the future. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256494 Thanks... Dirk
[gentoo-user] tellico fails to build
hello list, i'm having problems with tellico. tellico-1* are masked, because they fail to compile with newer versions of gcc and glib. but 2.0_pre2 also fails to build while linking, thus: [...] [ 99%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/tellico.dir/reportdialog.o [ 99%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/tellico.dir/tellico_kernel.o [100%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/tellico.dir/tellico_utils.o [100%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/tellico.dir/viewstack.o Linking CXX executable tellico /usr/lib/libpoppler-qt4.so: undefined reference to `GfxColorSpace::setDisplayProfile(void*)' /usr/lib/libpoppler-qt4.so: undefined reference to `GfxColorSpace::setDisplayProfileName(GooString*)' /usr/lib/libpoppler-qt4.so: undefined reference to `GfxColorSpace::getRGBProfile()' /usr/lib/libpoppler-qt4.so: undefined reference to `GfxColorSpace::getDisplayProfile()' collect2: ld devolvió el estado de salida 1 make[2]: *** [src/tellico] Error 1 make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/tellico.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 this happens to me on my two gentoo machines, but i haven't been able to find any reference to this problem on the web. anyone using tellico here? does it build OK for you? any idea of how to solve this? thank you as always, lj
[gentoo-user] [OT] Setting up correct domainname
Hi All, Up until a few months ago the ISP of the network in question was happy to accept and relay messages from my server myserver.mydomain.com which runs nagios. My server gets its IP address from the ISP in question dynamically so I use DynDNS to map the subdomain.domain name to it. To be able to relay messages I of course have set up sendmail to authenticate using email_acco...@isp.com/passwd_on_ISP. When the ISP stopped accepting messages I started getting this error message: -The following addresses had permanent fatal errors- email_acco...@isp.com (reason: 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain) -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp.ISP.com: MAIL From:nag...@myserver.mydomain.com SIZE=745 AUTH= 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Does this fail because the ISP's reverse DNS on my dynamically allocated IP address resolves to an ISP domain instead of myserver.mydomain.com? Is there something I could change in the configuration of my server to make this work again? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] runlevels and service list
Is there a reference list of what services should be started in which runlevels? I am interested in hald and dbus in particular. Googling shows mostly people set them to the default runlevel, but I would like a reference or reason ... BillK -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On 09/20/2009 03:34 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: Is there a reference list of what services should be started in which runlevels? I am interested in hald and dbus in particular. Googling shows mostly people set them to the default runlevel, but I would like a reference or reason ... The reason is that they are used by X, and since X is in the default runlevel, hal and dbus go there too.
Re: [gentoo-user] tellico fails to build
On 9/20/09, luis jure l...@internet.com.uy wrote: Linking CXX executable tellico /usr/lib/libpoppler-qt4.so: undefined reference to `GfxColorSpace::setDisplayProfile(void*)' /usr/lib/libpoppler-qt4.so: undefined reference to `GfxColorSpace::setDisplayProfileName(GooString*)' /usr/lib/libpoppler-qt4.so: undefined reference to `GfxColorSpace::getRGBProfile()' /usr/lib/libpoppler-qt4.so: undefined reference to `GfxColorSpace::getDisplayProfile()' I don't use tellico, but doesn't that error message mean that your system's current libpoppler-qt.so is broken? Run revdep-rebuild, or just emerge -1 poppler-qt4 for poppler's qt4 bindings. Then retry emerging tellico. -- Arttu V.
[gentoo-user] [OT] Conrad SATA-II PCI Controller
[OT] Does anybody know if the 4 PORT SATA II RAID PCI-KARTE http://www.conrad.ch/goto.php?artikel=973451 works with (Gentoo-) Linux. On the product description page it only lists Wintendo. And if yes, which kernel driver? -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 15:40 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/20/2009 03:34 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: Is there a reference list of what services should be started in which runlevels? I am interested in hald and dbus in particular. Googling shows mostly people set them to the default runlevel, but I would like a reference or reason ... The reason is that they are used by X, and since X is in the default runlevel, hal and dbus go there too. Lots of other things use them as well - not just X, so thats not a reason (and lots of systems that dont have X but need dbus and hal). I would like to know why they are started in the default run-level, not at boot which seems more reasonable for low level hardware support. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Setting up correct domainname
On 20 Sep 2009, at 12:30, Mick wrote: ... -The following addresses had permanent fatal errors- email_acco...@isp.com (reason: 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain) -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp.ISP.com: MAIL From:nag...@myserver.mydomain.com SIZE=745 AUTH= 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Does this fail because the ISP's reverse DNS on my dynamically allocated IP address resolves to an ISP domain instead of myserver.mydomain.com? I'm not quite clear. Does the myserver.mydomain.com resolve to the server actually sending the mail? I think that may be what they're asking for. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On Sunday 20 September 2009 14:50:02 William Kenworthy wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 15:40 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/20/2009 03:34 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: Is there a reference list of what services should be started in which runlevels? I am interested in hald and dbus in particular. Googling shows mostly people set them to the default runlevel, but I would like a reference or reason ... The reason is that they are used by X, and since X is in the default runlevel, hal and dbus go there too. Lots of other things use them as well - not just X, so thats not a reason (and lots of systems that dont have X but need dbus and hal). I would like to know why they are started in the default run-level, not at boot which seems more reasonable for low level hardware support. It comes down to personal preference. Any service in the boot runlevel will always be started, unlike default or other runlevels which can be run or not run by user choice. There's no good reason to mandate that dbus and hal will *always* run. Normally, nothing in the boot runlevel uses hal or dbus as these are userspace daemons used by apps that run when the system is up in its normal state. The primary consumer of dbus is of course the desktop. When the system is in single user mode for maintenance, dbus and hal will not normally be required. If it makes you feel better, start dbus and hal in the boot runlevel by all means. They are normally in default because everything that uses them is in default. Like I said earlier, there is no good, sane, all-encompassing reason to have or not have them in boot. They are not there by default because the maintainer probably saw no good reason to do so, and for no other reason. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] tellico fails to build
on 2009-09-20 at 15:44 Arttu V. wrote: Run revdep-rebuild, or just emerge -1 poppler-qt4 for poppler's qt4 bindings. Then retry emerging tellico. thanks for your suggestions, but i had already tried that, like i guess i tried all these obvious bets. anyone actually using tellico?
Re: [gentoo-user] tellico fails to build
on 2009-09-20 at 11:05 luis jure wrote: thanks for your suggestions, but i had already tried that, like i guess i tried all these obvious bets. just for the record, now i tried something else: i downgraded all the poppler packages to version 0.10.7 (instead of 0.12.0) and now it builds.
Re: [gentoo-user] tellico fails to build
luis jure wrote: on 2009-09-20 at 11:05 luis jure wrote: thanks for your suggestions, but i had already tried that, like i guess i tried all these obvious bets. just for the record, now i tried something else: i downgraded all the poppler packages to version 0.10.7 (instead of 0.12.0) and now it builds. File a roach report maybe? You know, bug report. Provided all should work together. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] [OT] Kernel 2.2.5 in VMware guest: network problems
Sorry for being a bit offtopic here, but I simply hope for some experienced help in this group ... I run VMware-Server 2.0.1 on a gentoo amd64-box. Things work OK, I have various guests (gentoo, ubuntu, xp, solaris, ...) and all of them work fine. Right now I am trying to virtualize an ancient Suse Linux 6.2 box which is running Linux 2.2.5. It boots OK, I adjusted network-settings, chose the pcnet32-module, attached that adapter to the bridged network and set the correct IP/netmask. The device is found at startup, dmesg shows it and no errors. ifconfig shows eth0 correct as well, but: it does not ping ... I am not able to ping the guest ... the arp-cache doesn not fill ... I simply don't know. This is crucial as a VM without network is simply not useful. Could this relate to some virtual hardware not yet supported by the old kernel? I see Unknown device 15ad:07a0 in lspci, which seems to show that I use a VM with version 7 ... maybe that's too new for that kernel. Will try to use an older one and compare. I am unsure if installing vmware-tools would even work? Does someone here have some tips for me how to get that box online? Thank you, Stefan
[gentoo-user] fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?
Hi, I have used for testing the following combo: Configured fetchmail for my user account and configured procmail to deliver the mail. I called fetchmail by hand: It works. In my fetchmailrc there is the line mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T as said: When started by hand everything is fine. Also fcron is installed and my personal fcrontab contains the line: @ 5 mrxvt -fn 10x20 -display :0.0 -g 30x5+0+0 -e dialog --yesno TEST 10 30 which also works: Every five minutes a dialog box pops up. BUT! When using the line: @ 5 fetchmail -a nothing happens: The mail remains on the server and can be downloaded with fetchmail -a from the commandline. May be I am a little overhacked today...but what the hack I am doing wrong here? Thank you very much for any help in advance! mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED [OT] Kernel 2.2.5 in VMware guest
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: I see Unknown device 15ad:07a0 in lspci, which seems to show that I use a VM with version 7 ... maybe that's too new for that kernel. Will try to use an older one and compare. success! Posting here lead me to that idea and it helped. I attached the virtual disk to a new VM, now with version 4 instead of 7 and the nic pings now! Sorry for the noise, Stefan
[gentoo-user] Why am I seeing only black screen in mplayer
Following my most recent update world of Sept. 13, mplayer only produces a black screen when playing quicktime .mov files. Ditto in firefox. This was working. But I'm not sure really what is playing the videos ... I do have gecko installed but in the firefox settings/applications it lists: quicktime files as being handled by `Use quicktime plugin 7.4.5 All other video formats are listed as being handled by gecko. I'm not sure if firefox settings were changed by update world. Can anyone throw some light on what might be the problem here. Does anyone know if the new version of mplayer(1.0_rc4_p20090919-r1) offered in portage (which is not yet available in gentoo repos)... might fix the problem? = * = * = * = A list of pkgs updated on Sept 13: qlop --list |grep 'Sep 13 ' Sun Sep 13 05:52:10 2009 dev-libs/expat-2.0.1-r2 Sun Sep 13 05:53:55 2009 media-libs/jpeg-7 Sun Sep 13 05:54:26 2009 sys-devel/gnuconfig-20090819 Sun Sep 13 05:55:10 2009 sys-libs/timezone-data-2009m Sun Sep 13 05:56:53 2009 app-arch/xz-utils-4.999.9_beta Sun Sep 13 05:57:25 2009 app-portage/portage-utils-0.2.1 Sun Sep 13 06:00:17 2009 dev-lang/swig-1.3.40 Sun Sep 13 06:01:51 2009 sys-apps/sandbox-2.1 Sun Sep 13 06:02:29 2009 app-arch/unzip-6.0-r1 Sun Sep 13 06:02:55 2009 sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.4 Sun Sep 13 06:06:04 2009 app-shells/bash-4.0_p33 Sun Sep 13 06:07:05 2009 mail-filter/bogofilter-1.2.1 Sun Sep 13 06:08:23 2009 media-libs/fontconfig-2.7.2 Sun Sep 13 06:08:38 2009 sys-apps/debianutils-3.2.1-r1 Sun Sep 13 06:08:54 2009 perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.021 Sun Sep 13 06:09:11 2009 perl-core/Storable-2.21 Sun Sep 13 06:09:27 2009 perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.021 Sun Sep 13 06:09:40 2009 dev-perl/yaml-0.70 Sun Sep 13 06:09:54 2009 dev-util/intltool-0.40.6-r1 Sun Sep 13 06:10:10 2009 dev-perl/HTML-Parser-3.62 Sun Sep 13 06:10:18 2009 virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.021 Sun Sep 13 06:10:26 2009 virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.021 Sun Sep 13 06:10:33 2009 virtual/perl-Package-Constants-0.02 Sun Sep 13 06:10:40 2009 virtual/perl-Storable-2.21 Sun Sep 13 06:10:55 2009 perl-core/IO-Compress-2.021 Sun Sep 13 06:11:08 2009 dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-1.30 Sun Sep 13 06:11:16 2009 virtual/perl-IO-Compress-2.021 Sun Sep 13 06:11:29 2009 perl-core/Archive-Tar-1.54 Sun Sep 13 06:11:37 2009 virtual/perl-Archive-Tar-1.54 Sun Sep 13 06:11:55 2009 perl-core/Module-Build-0.35 Sun Sep 13 06:12:02 2009 virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.35 Sun Sep 13 06:13:01 2009 sys-libs/readline-6.0_p4 Sun Sep 13 06:15:11 2009 dev-libs/apr-1.3.8 Sun Sep 13 06:16:08 2009 media-libs/libtheora-1.1_beta3 Sun Sep 13 06:16:50 2009 net-libs/libpcap-1.0.1_pre20090812 Sun Sep 13 06:18:32 2009 dev-db/sqlite-3.6.18 Sun Sep 13 06:18:45 2009 app-emacs/emacs-common-gentoo-1.2 Sun Sep 13 06:38:56 2009 dev-db/mysql-5.0.84-r1 Sun Sep 13 06:39:46 2009 dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9 Sun Sep 13 06:40:10 2009 dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.2 Sun Sep 13 06:41:33 2009 app-admin/rsyslog-3.22.1 Sun Sep 13 06:42:16 2009 app-admin/apache-tools-2.2.13 Sun Sep 13 06:45:28 2009 www-servers/apache-2.2.13 Sun Sep 13 06:45:35 2009 x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.6 Sun Sep 13 06:46:57 2009 x11-libs/pixman-0.16.0 Sun Sep 13 06:47:32 2009 x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.13 Sun Sep 13 06:47:57 2009 x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.0 Sun Sep 13 06:48:15 2009 x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.6 Sun Sep 13 06:48:55 2009 x11-libs/libFS-1.0.2 Sun Sep 13 06:49:24 2009 media-fonts/encodings-1.0.2-r1 Sun Sep 13 06:53:39 2009 sys-apps/coreutils-7.5 Sun Sep 13 06:55:54 2009 sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1 Sun Sep 13 06:57:18 2009 sys-apps/findutils-4.5.5 Sun Sep 13 06:58:22 2009 sys-apps/gawk-3.1.7 Sun Sep 13 06:58:53 2009 sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20090728014017-r1 Sun Sep 13 07:00:44 2009 dev-libs/libcdio-0.80-r1 Sun Sep 13 07:05:24 2009 app-portage/eix-0.17.1 Sun Sep 13 07:06:34 2009 app-editors/nano-2.1.10 Sun Sep 13 07:07:22 2009 x11-libs/libSM-1.1.1 Sun Sep 13 07:07:49 2009 sys-apps/help2man-1.36.4-r1 Sun Sep 13 07:09:05 2009 app-i18n/enca-1.10 Sun Sep 13 07:12:17 2009 x11-libs/libXt-1.0.6 Sun Sep 13 07:16:42 2009 net-misc/curl-7.19.6 Sun Sep 13 07:20:33 2009 sys-apps/dbus-1.3.0 Sun Sep 13 07:23:01 2009 x11-misc/x11vnc-0.9.8 Sun Sep 13 07:24:55 2009 x11-libs/libXaw-1.0.6 Sun Sep 13 07:30:42 2009 dev-libs/glib-2.20.5 Sun Sep 13 07:31:37 2009 sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.9 Sun Sep 13 07:31:46 2009 app-arch/rar-3.9.0 Sun Sep 13 07:32:54 2009 media-libs/babl-0.1.0 Sun Sep 13 07:34:39 2009 sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.9 Sun Sep 13 07:35:14 2009 dev-perl/glib-perl-1.222 Sun Sep 13 07:37:19 2009 media-libs/schroedinger-1.0.7-r2 Sun Sep 13 07:37:31 2009 sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.10.906 Sun Sep 13 07:37:50 2009 dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.831 Sun Sep 13 07:38:03 2009 sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1 Sun Sep 13 07:40:05 2009 dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 Sun Sep 13 07:42:03 2009 mail-client/mutt-1.5.20-r5 Sun Sep 13 07:43:41 2009 mail-mta/sendmail-8.14.3-r1 Sun Sep 13 07:52:10 2009
[gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?
On 09/19/2009 07:17 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: waltw41...@gmail.com [09-09-20 04:13]: On 09/19/2009 05:07 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: waltw41...@gmail.com [09-09-20 02:03]: On 09/19/2009 05:31 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Nonetheless I added the UNLOAD_ON_STOP=no to /etc/conf.d/alsasound and we will see what happens. Did you try stopping the alsa service manually? #/etc/init.d/alsasound stop This gave me errors, since my Webcam's audio part isn't implemented as full audio device, but it does not hang: ...but this problem was there long before the system cannot be shutdown anymore and I think it is not clean but the root of all evil Well, in any case you should be able to eliminate those error messages if you delete /etc/asound.* and then repeat the alsactl store.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up correct domainname
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: -The following addresses had permanent fatal errors- email_acco...@isp.com (reason: 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain) -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp.ISP.com: MAIL From:nag...@myserver.mydomain.com SIZE=745 AUTH= 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Does this fail because the ISP's reverse DNS on my dynamically allocated IP address resolves to an ISP domain instead of myserver.mydomain.com? Is there something I could change in the configuration of my server to make this work again? I think you might avoid the problem by making sendmail Impersonate your isps domain. Using some or all of these settings in sendmail.mc MASQUERADE_AS(`yourISP.domain')dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`youractual.domain')dnl FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?
walt w41...@gmail.com [09-09-20 18:14]: On 09/19/2009 07:17 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: waltw41...@gmail.com [09-09-20 04:13]: On 09/19/2009 05:07 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: waltw41...@gmail.com [09-09-20 02:03]: On 09/19/2009 05:31 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Nonetheless I added the UNLOAD_ON_STOP=no to /etc/conf.d/alsasound and we will see what happens. Did you try stopping the alsa service manually? #/etc/init.d/alsasound stop This gave me errors, since my Webcam's audio part isn't implemented as full audio device, but it does not hang: ...but this problem was there long before the system cannot be shutdown anymore and I think it is not clean but the root of all evil Well, in any case you should be able to eliminate those error messages if you delete /etc/asound.* and then repeat the alsactl store. solfire:/home/mccramerl /etc/asound.state -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10122 2009-08-06 18:05 /etc/asound.state solfire:/home/mccramersudo rm -f /etc/asound.state solfire:/home/mccramersudo alsactl store alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument solfire:/home/mccramer -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?
cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [09-09-19 15:19]: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 19 September 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: cleaner shutdown. This is taken from a email that was sent to me during that horrible xorg-server and hal upgrade. Hold down Atl, hold down SysRq, press each of the keys in turn. The usual full sequence is R-E-I-S-U-B Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken By ${DEITY} - this tagline picker is spooky at times :-O -- Neil Bothwick I tried this once when I was unable to get my keyboard to respond to anything else. I made it through the first three or four and was returned to a console with a working keyboard. Since you are shutting down, you may want to go through them all to be safe. I think the last one does a reboot. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Hi Dale, thanks a lot for your help!!! :) This will help to bring donw the machine in an more cleaner way as simply pressing the power switch ;-) But: How can I figure out, what hangs the shutdown process itsself? Last time I came across a problem like this I had forgotten to select the right chipset under Graphics support/AGP Support/ in the kernel. So I suggest you revisit your kernel and xorg drivers setups for your card. -- Hi. I have a somewhat similar problem, when I shutdown it goes all the way to the end, but instead of shutting down, it says init: nomore processes left in this runlevel. This is fine if I am here, but from a remote location it would not work, so how can I figure out why this is happening? I think this started when I went to baselayout 2, but not certain of that. I solved the problem: /etc/slim.conf has the daemon = no flag, so the boot process seems optically ok but hangs right after slim hast started. Shutting down the system tries to stop services/processes/action, which never has been started...which fails in a hang. I dont know exactly...but...if that flag is the default configuration when installing slim I would suggest to change it to daemon = yes to prevent users like me to spend the weekend in searching for a problem in the shutdown process. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Life is worth more than a penny... Meino Christian Cramer meino.cra...@gmx.de ;) -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:50:02 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Lots of other things use them as well - not just X, so thats not a reason (and lots of systems that dont have X but need dbus and hal). I would like to know why they are started in the default run-level, not at boot which seems more reasonable for low level hardware support. Because they don't need to go in boot, as evidenced by the successful booting of your system. The boot runlevel is for those services that have to be started before anything else. Dbus doesn't need to be put in any runlevel, it will be started when hald needs it. -- Neil Bothwick One person's error is another person's data. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [09-09-19 15:19]: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 19 September 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: cleaner shutdown. This is taken from a email that was sent to me during that horrible xorg-server and hal upgrade. Hold down Atl, hold down SysRq, press each of the keys in turn. The usual full sequence is R-E-I-S-U-B Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken By ${DEITY} - this tagline picker is spooky at times :-O -- Neil Bothwick I tried this once when I was unable to get my keyboard to respond to anything else. I made it through the first three or four and was returned to a console with a working keyboard. Since you are shutting down, you may want to go through them all to be safe. I think the last one does a reboot. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Hi Dale, thanks a lot for your help!!! :) This will help to bring donw the machine in an more cleaner way as simply pressing the power switch ;-) But: How can I figure out, what hangs the shutdown process itsself? Last time I came across a problem like this I had forgotten to select the right chipset under Graphics support/AGP Support/ in the kernel. So I suggest you revisit your kernel and xorg drivers setups for your card. -- Hi. I have a somewhat similar problem, when I shutdown it goes all the way to the end, but instead of shutting down, it says init: nomore processes left in this runlevel. This is fine if I am here, but from a remote location it would not work, so how can I figure out why this is happening? I think this started when I went to baselayout 2, but not certain of that. I solved the problem: /etc/slim.conf has the daemon = no flag, so the boot process seems optically ok but hangs right after slim hast started. Shutting down the system tries to stop services/processes/action, which never has been started...which fails in a hang. I dont know exactly...but...if that flag is the default configuration when installing slim I would suggest to change it to daemon = yes to prevent users like me to spend the weekend in searching for a problem in the shutdown process. I don't have such a file, or as far as I know, such a package. My shutdown does not hang, it just says no more processes left at this run level and sits there forever and will not restart the system. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?
On 09/20/2009 09:15 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: solfire:/home/mccramerl /etc/asound.state -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10122 2009-08-06 18:05 /etc/asound.state solfire:/home/mccramersudo rm -f /etc/asound.state solfire:/home/mccramersudo alsactl store alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument solfire:/home/mccramer I also have /etc/asound.names, which was apparently created a year ago by alsactl names (now deprecated). If you have that file it should also be deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 17:34, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: When using the line: @ 5 fetchmail -a nothing happens: The mail remains on the server and can be downloaded with fetchmail -a from the commandline. May be I am a little overhacked today...but what the hack I am doing wrong here? Are you sure the cron job runs? Check the logs. Or try adding: */5 * * * * fetchmail -a in your cron file. Ward
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB drive dead? (Commands to check?)
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 20 Sep 2009, at 01:01, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP seriously, I think you should try to get off everything you want to keep - and then replace the disk with a new one. If a disk starts throwing block errors it will only become worse. Don't worry about 'repairing' the file system as long as there is hardware damage. Try to get off the disk as much as possible - and then scrap it. I suspect you're right. It's just another $100 to go buy a new one Anyway, I'll see what I can set up to save the files that are still there. Although he seems to be demonstrating in this thread an inability to snip long sections of quoted text, leaving the reader with many lines of irrelevance to scroll through, I agree with Volker. If the drive fails you're going to be spending $100, anyway. If it fails without having been replaced your data pulled off it then you could find yourself floating down Effluent River and unable to start your outboard. I think this drive is quite likely to fail catastrophically, from my experience of having seen similar errors in the past. I really wouldn't trust this drive with important data right now. If you get your data off it and replace it in it's current capacity, there's nothing stopping you using it as a secondary drive in the future; I wouldn't trust it with important data right now, but if it's still chugging away in 6 months time then you can probably begin to have faith in it. Once you've gotten your data off the drive it wouldn't do any harm to format it nice with a clean filesystem; and writing a bunch of big unimportant files on the drive (e.g. `dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sda1/foo`) might allow it to map away a bunch of bad sectors. But right now you should probably act like the drive is definitely hosed. I don't think you should be saying oh, this might cost me $100, I hope it doesn't - you should be saying s#!t d...@mn! I had to buy a new hard-drive. But at least my data's ok. But maybe data isn't as important to you as it is to me. Relying on this drive for the backups of your Windows machines right now would be a mockery; around here sod's law would conspire for me to need one of those backups, were I to continue using a drive showing errors like this. I write as a guy you just bought yet another 500gb drive on Friday; I would too have preferred not to spend that money, but experience shows that frugality can sometimes be a mistake. Stroller. Turns out none of the backup or Myth files were savable in any practical manner of speaking. Myth could play them, or at least start playing them - I don't know if it could get to the end of any of them, but if I tried to copy them off to another drive the machine just started hanging with lots of dmesg drive errors. None of the previous windows backups were savable. I've taken new windows backups starting last night. The failing drive is now off line and the family will just have to live with less Myth recording time. I've switched to an old, slow 80GB 1394 drive vs the newer 160GB USB2 drive that failed. I guess this now comes down to having no backup for my backup system. ;-) Saving anything on hard drives always results with this risk I suppose. My daily backups are 1-2 GB in total so I guess I could start writing DVDs or something like that. Thanks to all for your inputs and ideas. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
090920 Neil Bothwick wrote: Dbus doesn't need to be put in any runlevel, it will be started when hald needs it. I was wondering why Htop shows it, but it isn't in the default runlevel. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [09-09-19 15:19]: I solved the problem: /etc/slim.conf has the daemon = no flag, so the boot process seems optically ok but hangs right after slim hast started. Shutting down the system tries to stop services/processes/action, which never has been started...which fails in a hang. I dont know exactly...but...if that flag is the default configuration when installing slim I would suggest to change it to daemon = yes to prevent users like me to spend the weekend in searching for a problem in the shutdown process. I don't have such a file, or as far as I know, such a package. My shutdown does not hang, it just says no more processes left at this run level and sits there forever and will not restart the system. Has the OP checked his inittab file? I ran into something like this once a long time ago and I had to replace the inittab file since some of it was gone. That file belongs to sysvinit so it may be worth re-emerging that to see if helps. I can post mine if you want something to compare to. Off list of course. Then again, it may not be to big. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [09-09-19 15:19]: I solved the problem: /etc/slim.conf has the daemon = no flag, so the boot process seems optically ok but hangs right after slim hast started. Shutting down the system tries to stop services/processes/action, which never has been started...which fails in a hang. I dont know exactly...but...if that flag is the default configuration when installing slim I would suggest to change it to daemon = yes to prevent users like me to spend the weekend in searching for a problem in the shutdown process. I don't have such a file, or as far as I know, such a package. My shutdown does not hang, it just says no more processes left at this run level and sits there forever and will not restart the system. Has the OP checked his inittab file? I ran into something like this once a long time ago and I had to replace the inittab file since some of it was gone. That file belongs to sysvinit so it may be worth re-emerging that to see if helps. I can post mine if you want something to compare to. Off list of course. Then again, it may not be to big. Dale :-) :-) Here is my inittab, its pretty short. # # /etc/inittab: This file describes how the INIT process should set up #the system in a certain run-level. # # Author: Miquel van Smoorenburg, miqu...@cistron.nl # Modified by: Patrick J. Volkerding, volke...@ftp.cdrom.com # Modified by: Daniel Robbins, drobb...@gentoo.org # Modified by: Martin Schlemmer, aza...@gentoo.org # # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/sysvinit/files/inittab,v 1.5 2005/12/22 02:03:23 vapier Exp $ # Default runlevel. id:3:initdefault: # System initialization, mount local filesystems, etc. si::sysinit:/sbin/rc sysinit # Further system initialization, brings up the boot runlevel. rc::bootwait:/sbin/rc boot l0:0:wait:/sbin/rc shutdown l1:S1:wait:/sbin/rc single l2:2:wait:/sbin/rc nonetwork l3:3:wait:/sbin/rc default l4:4:wait:/sbin/rc default l5:5:wait:/sbin/rc default l6:6:wait:/sbin/rc reboot #z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin # TERMINALS c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux c3:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux c4:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux c5:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux c7:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty7 linux c8:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty8 linux c9:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty9 linux c10:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty10 linux c11:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty11 linux # SERIAL CONSOLES #s0:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 9600 ttyS0 vt100 #s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 9600 ttyS1 vt100 # What to do at the Three Finger Salute. ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -r now # Used by /etc/init.d/xdm to control DM startup. # Read the comments in /etc/init.d/xdm for more # info. Do NOT remove, as this will start nothing # extra at boot if /etc/init.d/xdm is not added # to the default runlevel. x:a:once:/etc/X11/startDM.sh -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Address Label and Envelop Printing
Willie Wong wwong at math.princeton.edu writes: Commercial address labels mostly have templates in OpenOffice. The downside, of course, is that it may seem like an overkill. Avery did the trick. (You can also make templates yourself in OO.) nice to know. thx, James
[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On 09/20/2009 09:45 PM, Philip Webb wrote: 090920 Neil Bothwick wrote: Dbus doesn't need to be put in any runlevel, it will be started when hald needs it. I was wondering why Htop shows it, but it isn't in the default runlevel. /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) Not here. -- Neil Bothwick In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Here is my inittab, its pretty short. # TERMINALS c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux c3:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux c4:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux c5:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux c7:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty7 linux c8:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty8 linux c9:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty9 linux c10:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty10 linux c11:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty11 linux Other than this section, I didn't see any differences. Surely that wouldn't cause this type of problem. I'm clueless. emerge -ev system maybe? It may catch something that is broken. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) Not here. This is all I get for bash: r...@smoker / # ps aux | grep bash dale 7254 0.0 0.0 3044 572 ?SSep19 0:00 /bin/bash /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher root 7704 0.0 0.0 1888 516 pts/0S+ 15:01 0:00 grep --colour=auto bash r...@smoker / # I guess Seamonkey uses it for something. That is also all that shows up in htop as well. Nothing else bash that I can find. Nikos, you got something weird going on in your system? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On Sunday 20 September 2009 22:06:44 Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) Not here. This is all I get for bash: r...@smoker / # ps aux | grep bash dale 7254 0.0 0.0 3044 572 ?SSep19 0:00 /bin/bash /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher root 7704 0.0 0.0 1888 516 pts/0S+ 15:01 0:00 grep --colour=auto bash r...@smoker / # I guess Seamonkey uses it for something. That is also all that shows up in htop as well. Nothing else bash that I can find. The mozilla launcher scripts spawn an instance of bash which then goes looking for the mozilla binaries and launches them. All perfectly normal. The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up correct domainname
On Sunday 20 September 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: -The following addresses had permanent fatal errors- email_acco...@isp.com (reason: 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain) -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp.ISP.com: MAIL From:nag...@myserver.mydomain.com SIZE=745 AUTH= 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Does this fail because the ISP's reverse DNS on my dynamically allocated IP address resolves to an ISP domain instead of myserver.mydomain.com? Is there something I could change in the configuration of my server to make this work again? I think you might avoid the problem by making sendmail Impersonate your isps domain. Using some or all of these settings in sendmail.mc MASQUERADE_AS(`yourISP.domain')dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`youractual.domain')dnl FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl Yes, that should fix the reverse DNS problem alright, but then people who receive email notifications from myserver will be confused by the domain that these messages are sent from. I could also use the ISP's domain for my IP address in the server's /etc/hosts file - although it would have the same problem with regards to the domain that messages are sent from. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up correct domainname
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 21:38 +0100, Mick wrote: On Sunday 20 September 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: -The following addresses had permanent fatal errors- email_acco...@isp.com (reason: 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain) -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp.ISP.com: MAIL From:nag...@myserver.mydomain.com SIZE=745 AUTH= 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Does this fail because the ISP's reverse DNS on my dynamically allocated IP address resolves to an ISP domain instead of myserver.mydomain.com? Is there something I could change in the configuration of my server to make this work again? I think you might avoid the problem by making sendmail Impersonate your isps domain. Using some or all of these settings in sendmail.mc MASQUERADE_AS(`yourISP.domain')dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`youractual.domain')dnl FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl Yes, that should fix the reverse DNS problem alright, but then people who receive email notifications from myserver will be confused by the domain that these messages are sent from. I don't know this sendmail feature, but I think sendmail should not modify your message, but just the envelop. So `youractual.domain' would still be in the To-header, while `yourISP.domain' is in the envelop. That should make your ISP happy, and no receiver will ever notice (except if they look at the headers), because MUAs only show the To-header :) Your ISP could still check the To-header - but that would be just plain ugly... I could also use the ISP's domain for my IP address in the server's /etc/hosts file - although it would have the same problem with regards to the domain that messages are sent from.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 September 2009 22:06:44 Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) Not here. This is all I get for bash: r...@smoker / # ps aux | grep bash dale 7254 0.0 0.0 3044 572 ?SSep19 0:00 /bin/bash /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher root 7704 0.0 0.0 1888 516 pts/0S+ 15:01 0:00 grep --colour=auto bash r...@smoker / # I guess Seamonkey uses it for something. That is also all that shows up in htop as well. Nothing else bash that I can find. The mozilla launcher scripts spawn an instance of bash which then goes looking for the mozilla binaries and launches them. All perfectly normal. The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? This one: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash Looks like bash. ;-) I assume this is the default because I have never changed this file. Is there something screwy with my system? Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On 09/20/2009 10:54 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) Not here. Now that was pointless. Whatever shell you're using, geez, seriously...
Re: [gentoo-user] tellico fails to build
on 2009-09-20 at 10:19 Dale wrote: File a roach report maybe? You know, bug report. yeah, i was thinking about doing something along that line, but i'm not sure, never filed a bug report before. any hints? on the other hand, i don't even know where to place it, is it something related to tellico or to poppler?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up correct domainname
On Sunday 20 September 2009, Daniel Troeder wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 21:38 +0100, Mick wrote: On Sunday 20 September 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: -The following addresses had permanent fatal errors- email_acco...@isp.com (reason: 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain) -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp.ISP.com: MAIL From:nag...@myserver.mydomain.com SIZE=745 AUTH= 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender domain 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Does this fail because the ISP's reverse DNS on my dynamically allocated IP address resolves to an ISP domain instead of myserver.mydomain.com? Is there something I could change in the configuration of my server to make this work again? I think you might avoid the problem by making sendmail Impersonate your isps domain. Using some or all of these settings in sendmail.mc MASQUERADE_AS(`yourISP.domain')dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`youractual.domain')dnl FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl Yes, that should fix the reverse DNS problem alright, but then people who receive email notifications from myserver will be confused by the domain that these messages are sent from. I don't know this sendmail feature, but I think sendmail should not modify your message, but just the envelop. So `youractual.domain' would still be in the To-header, while `yourISP.domain' is in the envelop. That should make your ISP happy, and no receiver will ever notice (except if they look at the headers), because MUAs only show the To-header :) Your ISP could still check the To-header - but that would be just plain ugly... I could also use the ISP's domain for my IP address in the server's /etc/hosts file - although it would have the same problem with regards to the domain that messages are sent from. I will give it a go - hopefully the ISP will be happy and I won't need to register with a mail relaying service. Thanks for your suggestions. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Skipping interactive emerges
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:16 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: There's got ot be an easy answer to this, but I've looked in the portage, emerge and make.conf man pages to no avail. Is it possible to have emerge skip interactive ebuilds during a world update? What is an interactive ebuild? I've not seen one.
Re: [gentoo-user] tellico fails to build
luis jure wrote: on 2009-09-20 at 10:19 Dale wrote: File a roach report maybe? You know, bug report. yeah, i was thinking about doing something along that line, but i'm not sure, never filed a bug report before. any hints? on the other hand, i don't even know where to place it, is it something related to tellico or to poppler? I have been in this spot before too. I don't file to many of them unless I got my ducks in a row. One good thing, when you file the bug, the bug wrangler will notify the ones that need to see it and then they can figure out which package is the cause. Just make sure you put in a email address that you check regularly in case they need more info. I would file it on gentoo's bug system. It can then be passed upstream if needed. Can someone else chime in and give a opinion about what this should be filed against. If it is a bug then they need to know about it so it can be fixed. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Skipping interactive emerges
On Friday 18 September 2009 13:57:36 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:16 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: There's got ot be an easy answer to this, but I've looked in the portage, emerge and make.conf man pages to no avail. Is it possible to have emerge skip interactive ebuilds during a world update? What is an interactive ebuild? I've not seen one. An ebuild that waits for you to input data before it continues. I've not seen one for a long time, but they were usually used for proprietary packages that require you to interactively accept a license. Such things go against the spirit of portage so they are consequently rare. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Skipping interactive emerges
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:57:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: What is an interactive ebuild? I've not seen one. An ebuild that waits for you to input data before it continues. I've not seen one for a long time, but they were usually used for proprietary packages that require you to interactively accept a license. They are also used in some games ebuilds, where the user has to insert a CD, but the one affecting me is a licence acceptance thing, virtualbox. -- Neil Bothwick Every time I jump on the bandwagon all its wheels fall off. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Skipping interactive emerges
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:59:02 +0300, Arttu V. wrote: I just tried that, and instead of skipping the upgrades, it wanted to download several packages to a much older version :( O.o Care to share some of the packages causing this? Maybe some packages have interactivity marked only in their later versions, and others have it in their earlier ones? That was mu supposition too, here's the list. It's an upgrade of virtualbox-bin that triggered my question. I wanted to be able to let a world update proceed without stopping while I wasn't looking. Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild UD] app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-1.6.6-r1 [3.0.6] [ebuild N] sys-apps/usermode-utilities-20070815 [ebuild N] net-misc/bridge-utils-1.4 [ebuild UD] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 [1.0.0.25] [ebuildFUD] app-emulation/vmware-workstation-5.5.9.126128 [6.5.3.185404] [ebuildFUD] app-emulation/virtualbox-bin-1.6.6 [3.0.6-r1] !!! The following installed packages are masked: - virtual/poppler-glib-0.12.0 (masked by: virtual properties) - virtual/monodoc-2.4.2.3 (masked by: virtual properties) - virtual/poppler-qt4-0.12.0 (masked by: virtual properties) - virtual/poppler-0.12.0 (masked by: virtual properties) - virtual/poppler-utils-0.12.0 (masked by: virtual properties) -- Neil Bothwick Programmers do it bit by bit. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:01:09 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) Not here. Now that was pointless. Whatever shell you're using, geez, seriously... Not quite, it demonstrated the error in assuming everyone uses bash :) -- Neil Bothwick DATA COMPRESSION: What You Get When You Squish An Android signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? This one: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash Looks like bash. ;-) I assume this is the default because I have never changed this file. Is there something screwy with my system? In linux bash is the default shell (even sh is a symlink to bash) but in other OS's other default shells prevail. How did you type your 'ps aux' command? In an xterm window, or what? Here's a snippet from my ps axf: (I love that 'f' flag) 4682 tty1 S 0:00 xterm -bg rgb:db/e9/f9 -sb -fn 9x15 4685 pts/0Ss 0:00 \_ bash 4724 pts/0S 0:00 \_ su 4729 pts/0S 0:00 \_ bash 22427 pts/0R+ 0:00 \_ ps axf
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On Monday 21 September 2009 02:11:51 walt wrote: On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? This one: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash Looks like bash. ;-) I assume this is the default because I have never changed this file. Is there something screwy with my system? In linux bash is the default shell (even sh is a symlink to bash) but in other OS's other default shells prevail. Correction: In *Gentoo* it is the default shell. A distro is free to choose whatever default shell it feels like, as is any other OS. There are distros out there that do not default to bash. You simply cannot make a blanket statement like In linux bash is the default shell as it's simply not true. Let's be accurate when we make statements, OK? If devs wrote code like that it would not run, and if you typed commands with that level of slap-dashedness they would frequently fail. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
walt wrote: On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? This one: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash Looks like bash. ;-) I assume this is the default because I have never changed this file. Is there something screwy with my system? In linux bash is the default shell (even sh is a symlink to bash) but in other OS's other default shells prevail. How did you type your 'ps aux' command? In an xterm window, or what? Here's a snippet from my ps axf: (I love that 'f' flag) 4682 tty1 S 0:00 xterm -bg rgb:db/e9/f9 -sb -fn 9x15 4685 pts/0Ss 0:00 \_ bash 4724 pts/0S 0:00 \_ su 4729 pts/0S 0:00 \_ bash 22427 pts/0R+ 0:00 \_ ps axf I used the command ps aux. I think that lists ALL processes. I usually use grep to filter them out. This is what I got tho: r...@smoker / # ps aux | grep bash dale 7254 0.0 0.0 3044 572 ?SSep19 0:00 /bin/bash /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher root 7704 0.0 0.0 1888 516 pts/0S+ 15:01 0:00 grep --colour=auto bash r...@smoker / # Obviously the bottom one is the command I typed in. I did this in a Konsole within KDE. I don't got to a actual Console to much. Note the K and the C on those. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:01:09 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) Not here. Now that was pointless. Whatever shell you're using, geez, seriously... Not quite, it demonstrated the error in assuming everyone uses bash :) I think it is to the point now of throwing out ideas and seeing which one will stick to the wall and fix this. It may not help but someone may just have a brainstorm at some point. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 21 September 2009 02:11:51 walt wrote: On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? This one: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash Looks like bash. ;-) I assume this is the default because I have never changed this file. Is there something screwy with my system? In linux bash is the default shell (even sh is a symlink to bash) but in other OS's other default shells prevail. Correction: In *Gentoo* it is the default shell. A distro is free to choose whatever default shell it feels like, as is any other OS. There are distros out there that do not default to bash. You simply cannot make a blanket statement like In linux bash is the default shell as it's simply not true. Let's be accurate when we make statements, OK? If devs wrote code like that it would not run, and if you typed commands with that level of slap-dashedness they would frequently fail. So that is my problem. slap-dashedness ;-) LOL I always wondered why I could screw something up. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Read a LOT of humor in that.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up correct domainname
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: I think you might avoid the problem by making sendmail Impersonate your isps domain. Using some or all of these settings in sendmail.mc MASQUERADE_AS(`yourISP.domain')dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`youractual.domain')dnl FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl Yes, that should fix the reverse DNS problem alright, but then people who receive email notifications from myserver will be confused by the domain that these messages are sent from. I could also use the ISP's domain for my IP address in the server's /etc/hosts file - although it would have the same problem with regards to the domain that messages are sent from. It is possible to do lots of complicated rewriting with `genericstable', both in and out... maybe that would bare looking into.
[gentoo-user] Re: fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?
Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 17:34, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: When using the line: @ 5 fetchmail -a nothing happens: The mail remains on the server and can be downloaded with fetchmail -a from the commandline. May be I am a little overhacked today...but what the hack I am doing wrong here? Are you sure the cron job runs? Check the logs. Or try adding: */5 * * * * fetchmail -a in your cron file. Another way to go at it might be to use fetchmails' built in daemon mode (fetchmail -d INTERVAL). And forget about cron.
[gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : Gwenview Krusader problems
More progress/problems with KDE 4.3.1 . Gwenview is refusing to show thumbnails of images, which showed in 3.5.10 . They seem to be small images: has anyone else experienced this ? Krusader can no longer connect to a remote site via 'fish://'; in fact Krusader 1.80.0 (with KDE 3.5.10) won't do it anymore either. I can connect to the site via 'ssh' from the CLI. Does anyone have suggestions ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com [09-09-21 04:25]: Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 17:34, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: When using the line: @ 5 fetchmail -a nothing happens: The mail remains on the server and can be downloaded with fetchmail -a from the commandline. May be I am a little overhacked today...but what the hack I am doing wrong here? Are you sure the cron job runs? Check the logs. Or try adding: */5 * * * * fetchmail -a in your cron file. Another way to go at it might be to use fetchmails' built in daemon mode (fetchmail -d INTERVAL). And forget about cron. fcron does run (see my previous mail). I will try the daemon mode. What will be the best place to fire up fetchmail then? ...but I am still curious what prevents the call by fcron, since this is also recommended by some howtos... -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?
walt w41...@gmail.com [09-09-21 02:32]: On 09/20/2009 09:15 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: solfire:/home/mccramerl /etc/asound.state -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10122 2009-08-06 18:05 /etc/asound.state solfire:/home/mccramersudo rm -f /etc/asound.state solfire:/home/mccramersudo alsactl store alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument solfire:/home/mccramer I also have /etc/asound.names, which was apparently created a year ago by alsactl names (now deprecated). If you have that file it should also be deleted. If alsactl is deprecated -- what to use instead? -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On 09/20/2009 05:40 PM, Dale wrote: walt wrote: On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? This one: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash Looks like bash. ;-) I assume this is the default because I have never changed this file. Is there something screwy with my system? In linux bash is the default shell (even sh is a symlink to bash) but in other OS's other default shells prevail. Okay, okay, Alan, you're right, I have not tried every linux distro out there, but when I was a linux noob I tried every one I could find. Back then that was Debian, SuSe, Red Hat, Mandrake (since morphed into something else), and very recently Ubuntu, just to see what all the fuss was about. (I'm sticking with gentoo.) All of those use(d) bash as the default shell, but may have switched while I wasn't looking. Bash *appears* to be the official shell of GNU, as its home page is hosted there: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/ BTW, all of the above distros including gentoo are officially un-endorsed by GNU: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/common-distros.html How did you type your 'ps aux' command? In an xterm window, or what? Here's a snippet from my ps axf: (I love that 'f' flag) 4682 tty1 S 0:00 xterm -bg rgb:db/e9/f9 -sb -fn 9x15 4685 pts/0Ss 0:00 \_ bash 4724 pts/0S 0:00 \_ su 4729 pts/0S 0:00 \_ bash 22427 pts/0R+ 0:00 \_ ps axf ...I did this in a Konsole within KDE... Ah, that was the answer I was looking for. I'm a bit surprised that Konsole doesn't invoke bash somehow. I'll investigate more tomorrow when I'm awake.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why am I seeing only black screen in mplayer
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Following my most recent update world of Sept. 13, mplayer only produces a black screen when playing quicktime .mov files. It works for me on ~amd64. I'm using mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090825 with quicktime USE flag enabled. Playing a quicktime movie shows video codec as ffrpza (from ffmpeg). I use vdpau for video output.