Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 00:21:18 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 30 June 2010 01:16:44 Alex Schuster wrote: > > > Alex, have you tried turning off the Nepomuke service? I see in one of > > > your screenshots that you are having problems with it (segfaults). > > > > No. The screenshot was ta

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-29 Thread waltdnes
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:20:08PM -0700, walt wrote > But my real reason for replying is to ask you why you're interested > in OS/2. I thought IBM lost interest in it ages ago. Am I wrong? I have Galactic Civilizations V2.5, an OS/2-only game, on a 400 mhz PII running Warp 4. I still love i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread waltdnes
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:04:59PM -0700, walt wrote > When companies that rich and powerful push web-only services as the > answer to their revenue prayers, I suspect they may be able to win. The answer to that is Gnumeric/Abiword, unless MS/Google get them outlawed. OpenOffice (Bleagh) and K

[gentoo-user] Patch via perl script in an ebuild?

2010-06-29 Thread Grant
I need to install the google-api-adwords-perl library, and it requires that SOAP-WSDL is patched with the soap_wsdl_patches.pl perl script. Can I have SOAP-WSDL patched via the perl script in an ebuild? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-06-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 11:09 +1000, Beau Henderson wrote: > On 06/30/10 08:07, Paul Hartman wrote: [...] > > You can see which options -march=native would use by running this command: > > > > gcc -Q --help=target -march=native > > > > (thanks to Daniel Iliev for the tip) > > > > Perhaps I'm missin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-29 Thread Crístian Viana
> > Anyone know if kvm has a similar gui for managing virtual > machines? > app-emulation/virt-manager

[gentoo-user] Re: VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-29 Thread walt
On 06/27/2010 11:19 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > ... I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4... I've found VirtualBox to be a bit faster than kvm only because of their highly optimized graphics driver. The vbox gui is also nice, but requires qt4 (a pain for us gnome user

Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-06-29 Thread Beau Henderson
On 06/30/10 08:07, Paul Hartman wrote: 2010/6/29 Hasan SAHIN: Hello all, I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? You can see which options -march=native would use by running this c

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread walt
On 06/29/2010 07:23 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: I have: CFLAGS="-march=k8-sse3 Hm. I've never seen that flag before. My k8 supports only sse2. AFAIK -fomit-frame-pointer should be perfectly safe, at the only cost of making debugging harder. I already thought about removing it anyway, so my bug

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:16:44 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > I did not want to use Chromium, but I tried it, and I must admit, it's > fast, and it uses much less memory than konqueror. And it even has web > shortcuts, which are a must-have for me now. What I'm missing most now > is mouse gestures.

Re: [gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-06-29 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > He has this uncanny ability of almost > always being correct on technical toolchain matters I disagree with the uncanny part. This is flameeyes we are talking about. It's like saying "Joerg Schilling has this uncanny ability of almo

Re: [gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability

2010-06-29 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:49:38PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: > What, you mean after going blank? Not that I would have noticed. If you > mean after the xserver crash, see three sentences below ;) Oh, my bad. So I assumed that you also checked the kernel logs then. Are you sure there's no kerne

[gentoo-user] Re: X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability

2010-06-29 Thread walt
On 06/28/2010 09:47 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: 2. Once the XServer runs, it is extremely unstable. It gets killed and restarted by XDM every few minutes... I stopped using display managers years ago, mostly because they make life so difficult when X is being flakey. My advice is to avoid xdm

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 01:16:44 Alex Schuster wrote: > > Alex, have you tried turning off the Nepomuke service? I see in one of > > your screenshots that you are having problems with it (segfaults). > > No. The screenshot was taken shortly after logging in, the log shows the > Strigi crashes.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick writes: > On Tuesday 29 June 2010 15:38:05 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I used to be a big Konqueror fan until about six months ago. Then I > > tried Chromium and was blown away by its speed and the way it works > > on more sites. I do miss some of the integration of Konqueror and > > its kio-sl

Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-06-29 Thread Bill Longman
On 06/29/2010 06:08 PM, Hasan SAHIN wrote: > I have read the safe flags document and it says that : > > /GCC 4.2 introduces a new -march option, -march=*native*, which > automatically detects the features your CPU supports and sets the > options appropriately. If you have an Intel or AMD CPU and a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-29 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Dale wrote: I mentioned this on -dev once when this topic came up. Thing is, portage is not the only package manager being used. That's an important point. Personally I think portage should be the official package manager a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 15:38:05 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:23:48 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > > I tried chromium once, about half a year ago, but it crashed instantly. > > Emerging it again. But I like Konqueror very much. It has problems with > > some web sites, for those I us

Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 30.06.2010 00:22, schrieb waltd...@waltdnes.org: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:56:45PM +0700, Robin Atwood wrote > >> I installed OS/2 Warp 4 with KVM and it "just worked" (TM)! It is also >> incredibly fast (on a Core2 Duo). > > Thanks for that report. I'll try it out. KVM is nice. Just

Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-29 Thread waltdnes
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:56:45PM +0700, Robin Atwood wrote > I installed OS/2 Warp 4 with KVM and it "just worked" (TM)! It is also > incredibly fast (on a Core2 Duo). Thanks for that report. I'll try it out. -- Walter Dnes

Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-06-29 Thread Hasan SAHIN
29-06-2010 22:03, Bill Longman yazmış: On 06/29/2010 05:54 PM, Hasan SAHIN wrote: Hello all, I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? Sorry, Hasan, I dropped my "3"s. -mss

Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-06-29 Thread Paul Hartman
2010/6/29 Hasan SAHIN : > Hello all, > > I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the > CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. > > Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? You can see which options -march=native would use by running this command: gcc -Q --help=target -

Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-06-29 Thread Bill Longman
On 06/29/2010 05:54 PM, Hasan SAHIN wrote: > Hello all, > > I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the > CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. > > Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? Sorry, Hasan, I dropped my "3"s. -msse3 and -march=k8-sse3

Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-06-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Hasan SAHIN writes: > I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the > CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. > > Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? Sure, as long as you are not using distcc, in which case the distcc servers would compile according to _their_ nati

Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-06-29 Thread Bill Longman
On 06/29/2010 05:54 PM, Hasan SAHIN wrote: > Hello all, > > I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the > CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. > > Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? > > P.S. : I am using x86 stable box. Depends more on the version of gcc you'

[gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
Seems like the horrendous screw-up that was the libpng-1.4 update never got fixed properly and is hitting stable users now. Flameeyes, in his usual in-your-face style, has documented what needs to be done: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2010/06/29/stable-users-libpng-update If you are a stable user,

[gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-06-29 Thread Hasan SAHIN
Hello all, I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? P.S. : I am using x86 stable box. Regards, Hasan.

Re: [gentoo-user] slow x

2010-06-29 Thread mailinglists00
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 04:23:11PM +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote: > > > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized > > web browser with a page with pictures and text. > > If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and > > the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but

Re: [gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability

2010-06-29 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 29.06.2010 13:48, schrieb Willie Wong: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 06:47:42PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: >> 1. On boot up, the screen goes completely black until the xserver is >> started. While I know my system long enough to recognize common boot >> errors by watching the disk and peripheral

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 20:08:34 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I mentioned this on -dev once when this topic came up. Thing is, > > portage is not the only package manager being used. Personally I think > > portage should be the official package manager and if you chose to use > > something else, y

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:40:56 -0500, Dale wrote: > I mentioned this on -dev once when this topic came up. Thing is, > portage is not the only package manager being used. Personally I think > portage should be the official package manager and if you chose to use > something else, you should kno

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Dale wrote: > I mentioned this on -dev once when this topic came up.  Thing is, portage is > not the only package manager being used. That's an important point. > Personally I think portage should > be the official package manager and if you chose to use someth

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-29 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM,wrote: Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application w

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:30:03 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!: [snip] >I have: >CFLAGS="-march=k8-sse3 -mfpmath=sse -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" > >AFAIK -fomit-frame-pointer should be perfectly safe, at the only cost >of making debugging harder. For

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Mark Knecht >>  wrote: >> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM,  wrote: >>> Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without e

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread Mateusz Mierzwiński
First of all - try to configure X-es by hald. If this don't work on Your arch, try revert to xorg.conf. I have Intel GMA965 card and it work's ideal.  If You say about web clients, that You hate them - it's yours right. I like it, because of 396 firm contacts on my contact book connected to them f

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-29 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM, wrote: Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without emerging the application itself? And: Will I hurt the system that way? Best regard

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM,   wrote: >> Hi, >> >> is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain >> application without emerging the application itself? And: Will >> I hurt the system that way? >> >> Best regards, >> mcc >

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:23:48 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > I tried chromium once, about half a year ago, but it crashed instantly. > Emerging it again. But I like Konqueror very much. It has problems with > some web sites, for those I use Firefox. I am missing some of Firefox' > plugins, and it

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Mateusz Mierzwiński writes: > I have KDE4. It work's perfect. Whooo, now at least this sounds good! > Try set "Custom-cxxflags" to off, > maybe this will help. From my opinion KDE and QT 4 don't like > customized C/CXX Flags, such as fomit-frame-pointer and similar. I have: CFLAGS="-march=k8-ss

Re: [gentoo-user] slow x

2010-06-29 Thread Alex Schuster
mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote: > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized > web browser with a page with pictures and text. > If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and > the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it > takes a moment. Is there disk activity when this happens? W

Re: [gentoo-user] What is wrong with lame?

2010-06-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Mateusz Mierzwiński > wrote: >> Hi, >> I wish to ask if anyone also have same feeling that Winamp running on Wine >> (ALSA output) have better sound quality than players like VLC, XMMS, Amarok >> and even song

Re: [gentoo-user] slow x

2010-06-29 Thread mailinglists00
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:42:49PM -0400, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:26:13PM +0200, mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote > > > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a > > page with pictures and text. If I maximize it, the drawing of the > > page

Re: [gentoo-user] What is wrong with lame?

2010-06-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Mateusz Mierzwiński wrote: > Hi, > I wish to ask if anyone also have same feeling that Winamp running on Wine > (ALSA output) have better sound quality than players like VLC, XMMS, Amarok > and even songbird just as many others? > What's wrong with decoding of audi

Re: [gentoo-user] slow x

2010-06-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:26 PM, wrote: > hi all! > > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized > web browser with a page with pictures and text. > If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and > the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it > takes a moment. > I tried ubuntu livecd, and thi

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay

2010-06-29 Thread Chen Huan
ok, I got it after add a file "repo_name" to /var/lib/layman/myown, the warning message disappeared thanks very much 2010/6/29 Chen Huan > thanks > > previously jabberd2 is being merged from my own overlay too > > in /var/lib/layman/myown, I just make the directory net-im/jabberd2/, there > is

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay

2010-06-29 Thread Chen Huan
thanks previously jabberd2 is being merged from my own overlay too in /var/lib/layman/myown, I just make the directory net-im/jabberd2/, there is no other things in /var/lib/layman/myown Should I add some other things to the directory of my own overlay?? Did you previously rename your repo or

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay

2010-06-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 19:51 +0800, Chen Huan wrote: > I had done some hack on jabberd2, and I make a new ebuild for it, To > avoid > the new ebuild being overwrite when I execute "emerge --sync", I make > /var/lib/layman/myown for this ebuild > > when I emerged jabberd2, it's normal, but when I t

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay

2010-06-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Chen Huan writes: > I had done some hack on jabberd2, and I make a new ebuild for it, To > avoid the new ebuild being overwrite when I execute "emerge --sync", I > make /var/lib/layman/myown for this ebuild > > when I emerged jabberd2, it's normal, but when I try to re-merge it, > the output is

[gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay

2010-06-29 Thread Chen Huan
I had done some hack on jabberd2, and I make a new ebuild for it, To avoid the new ebuild being overwrite when I execute "emerge --sync", I make /var/lib/layman/myown for this ebuild when I emerged jabberd2, it's normal, but when I try to re-merge it, the output is : Calculating dependencies...

Re: [gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability

2010-06-29 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 06:47:42PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: > 1. On boot up, the screen goes completely black until the xserver is > started. While I know my system long enough to recognize common boot > errors by watching the disk and peripheral device activity, I wouldn't > like to make a fi