Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:10:45 -0600 »Q« wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:45:33 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > [about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y] > > A news item about this is coming down the wire very soon now (aka > > within hours judging by the thread on -dev). > > It's there now. Among ot

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:48:03 +0100 Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > I always thought the right way to update everything was: > > emerge --update --deep --newuse world > emerge --update --deep --newuse system > > When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. > Yet when I try i.e.

Re: [gentoo-user] Nginx with Python

2013-01-23 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Thursday 24 January 2013 05:34:50 AM IST, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > has someone run this part of Server and maybe will share the way? I look > since days for tutorial but so really want nothing run. With Gentoo found > nothing really most of them speak from Ubuntu. > > > Thank you for He

Re: [gentoo-user] Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 23 January 2013 01:55:19 Dale wrote: > >> Also, I used to run foldingathome. It does not do well with >> overclocking. It will error out pretty quick. I tried this on a Abit >> NF7 v2 mobo. At that time, they were pretty much the king of >> overclocking. I

Re: [gentoo-user] PATA vs SATA kernel driver (was: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore)

2013-01-23 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:14:18AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > > Since this is > > > > > depreciated, which generally means no longer maintained > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word you want is "deprecated". > > > > > > > > "depreciated" is something else entirely, it's what your e

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 06:33:38PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > Anything newer is a vast improvement, especially Core2 and newer. > > As long as you ignore the unfixable security issues even by microcode of > core2 duos ;-). -v please -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 01:55:19 Dale wrote: > Also, I used to run foldingathome. It does not do well with > overclocking. It will error out pretty quick. I tried this on a Abit > NF7 v2 mobo. At that time, they were pretty much the king of > overclocking. I bought everything intending t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 20:10:45 »Q« wrote: > Of course there's no substitute for paying attention, but it's nice to > get a news item, even nicer if it comes before things hit stable. Indeed. -- Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 11:06:17 Gregory Shearman wrote: > Even if you didn't see the message ...as I didn't... > and your system didn't boot ...as mine didn't... > then you could still fix things by using your Minimal Install CD to start > up, then chroot into your normal system and rebu

Re: [gentoo-user] /proc/net/wirelesslessness

2013-01-23 Thread rking (Clumsily Typing via Phone)
> Do you have CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=y ?  No, I sure don't. Looking at this list of conditions that are required to enable that setting is quite impressive/daunting. I'm not sure which I should enable. I'll work on it. -RK

Re: [gentoo-user] libv8 segfault

2013-01-23 Thread Adam Carter
> > I didn't merge anything while I was playing with overclocking. > custom-cflags is enabled. > Disable custom-cflags and try again. You shouldn't expect things to work when that's on. You may get lucky at times, but youre not getting lucky now.

[gentoo-user] Nginx with Python

2013-01-23 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, has someone run this part of Server and maybe will share the way? I look since days for tutorial but so really want nothing run. With Gentoo found nothing really most of them speak from Ubuntu. Thank you for Help & Greetings Silvio

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Hilco Wijbenga > wrote: >> On 23 January 2013 11:53, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jarry wrote: >> emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --update --deep --newuse system >> So how can I update

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:15:10PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > That's right. So --changed-use only reemerges the package if the change > only affects your system, whereas -N will rebuild it even if the changed > flag is of no interest to you, such as when a flag you were not using is > removed

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:01:11 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > N = newuse (pkgs with changed USE flags) > > > > --changed-use makes more sense than -N, it saves unnecessary > > compiling. > > If I understand "man emerge", --newuse tells me if an installed > package has a USE flag that was added

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:27:54PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:21:35 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > N = newuse (pkgs with changed USE flags) > > --changed-use makes more sense than -N, it saves unnecessary compiling. If I understand "man emerge", --newuse tells me if an

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:27:17 +0100 Florian Philipp wrote: > You mean you have not enabled drm and/or use the generic vesa driver? > Maybe something is trying to use opengl and software emulation slows you > down. In Opera no, in other i not have really something change in config files.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:31:10 + Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Could be lots of things but I would check your temp sensors from > the os or bios before the kernel. is lmsensors ok? siefke@gentoo-mobile : ~ $ sensors acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:+52.0°C (crit = +98

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:21:35 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > N = newuse (pkgs with changed USE flags) --changed-use makes more sense than -N, it saves unnecessary compiling. -- Neil Bothwick Mac screen message: "Like, dude, something went wrong." signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:06:17 +1100, Gregory Shearman wrote: > > That's fine if you see the message, which you should, and the system > > does not suffer an unplanned reboot, which it shouldn't. But leaving a > > system in a state that won't reboot following a crash or power > > failure is not part

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 08:48:03PM +0100, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > I always thought the right way to update everything was: > > emerge --update --deep --newuse world > emerge --update --deep --newuse system > > When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. > Yet when I try

Re: [gentoo-user] /proc/net/wirelesslessness

2013-01-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:25 AM, ☈king wrote: > I'm trying to build a kernel with this Atheros AR9287 wifi card. I had it > working last week and rebuilt the kernel without saving my config, now I'm > kind of stuck. The most immediate problem I see is that I have > /proc/net/wireless, even though

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On 23 January 2013 11:53, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jarry wrote: > >>> emerge --update --deep --newuse world >>> emerge --update --deep --newuse system > >>> So how can I update really *every* ebuild? >> >> A

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:45:33 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: [about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y] > A news item about this is coming down the wire very soon now (aka > within hours judging by the thread on -dev). It's there now. Among other things, it mentions checking the /dev entry in fstab, if the

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 23 January 2013 11:53, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jarry wrote: >> emerge --update --deep --newuse world >> emerge --update --deep --newuse system >> So how can I update really *every* ebuild? > > And in answer...you've got it right. (Though I would use @world and/o

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > I always thought the right way to update everything was: > > emerge --update --deep --newuse world > emerge --update --deep --newuse system > > When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. > Yet when I try i.e. "emer

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 23.01.2013 20:48, schrieb Jarry: > Hi Gentoo-users, > I always thought the right way to update everything was: > > emerge --update --deep --newuse world > emerge --update --deep --newuse system > > When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. > Yet when I try i.e. "emerge --pret

[gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild?

2013-01-23 Thread Jarry
Hi Gentoo-users, I always thought the right way to update everything was: emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --update --deep --newuse system When I try the above mentioned, nothing to update is found. Yet when I try i.e. "emerge --pretend nasm", I see: [ebuild U ] dev-lang/nasm-2

[gentoo-user] MySQL startup problem - interface does not have an address yet.

2013-01-23 Thread Manuel McLure
I'm having a problem with booting my Gentoo system due to MySQL hanging at startup. My system is up-to-date stable (including udev-197, although I believe the problem started while I was still on 171) except for the kernel, which is at 3.1.10 because I can't seem to get lirc to work correctly on ne

[gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/01/13 19:13, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 23.01.2013 09:21, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 23/01/13 03:55, Dale wrote: [...] I tired overclocking once a good while back. It just wasn't worth it. I've been running a Core 2 Duo from 2.4Ghz to 3.4Ghz for over three years. Instead of a n

[gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/01/13 19:16, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 23.01.2013 16:35, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 23/01/13 17:09, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: On Wednesday 23 January 2013 07:52:03 PM IST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] In my experience, most of the time you can overclock. The issue is with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Anything newer is a vast improvement, especially Core2 and newer. As long as you ignore the unfixable security issues even by microcode of core2 duos ;-). -- ___ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write program

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > Overheating problem? Considering it's about a Pentium 4, that seems a likely > > cause. > > Which P4 i has not so probs. The probs come with Atom. Older systems used to reset on overheat so it was obviously hardware. Newer cpus actually halt and then continue operation. Most of the time you

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 24.01.2013 00:27, schrieb Silvio Siefke: > Hello, > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:48:49 +0100 > Florian Philipp wrote: [...] >> What kind of workload do we talk about? Properly "niced" and "ioniced" >> compile jobs? Is the freeze temporary? > > If I run a program, depending on the size the System

[gentoo-user] /proc/net/wirelesslessness

2013-01-23 Thread ☈king
I'm trying to build a kernel with this Atheros AR9287 wifi card. I had it working last week and rebuilt the kernel without saving my config, now I'm kind of stuck. The most immediate problem I see is that I have /proc/net/wireless, even though when I boot with SystemRescueCD it comes up fine.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 23.01.2013 16:35, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: >> On 23/01/13 17:09, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >>> On Wednesday 23 January 2013 07:52:03 PM IST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] In my experience, most of the time you can over

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 23.01.2013 16:35, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 23/01/13 17:09, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >> On Wednesday 23 January 2013 07:52:03 PM IST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> [...] >>> In my experience, most of the time you can overclock. The issue is >>> with the user not knowing exactly how to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 23.01.2013 09:21, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 23/01/13 03:55, Dale wrote: >> [...] >> I tired overclocking once a good while back. It just wasn't worth it. > > I've been running a Core 2 Duo from 2.4Ghz to 3.4Ghz for over three > years. Instead of a new CPU, I only bought a €30 cooler. > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/01/13 18:22, Bruce Hill wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 05:35:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: The part that's really important is the mainboard. RAM doesn't matter. As I said above, the mainboard is really the only important factor. Though I've not overclocked in better than a dec

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 05:35:09PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > The part that's really important is the mainboard. RAM doesn't matter. > > As I said above, the mainboard is really the only important factor. Though I've not overclocked in better than a decade, I disagree with your statem

Re: [gentoo-user] libv8 segfault

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > On Wednesday 23 January 2013 09:29:22 PM IST, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan >> wrote: >>> I tried compiling all versions of chromium (-O3, but it always worked >>> previously) & v8 (tried -

Re: [gentoo-user] libv8 segfault

2013-01-23 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 09:29:22 PM IST, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan > wrote: >> I tried compiling all versions of chromium (-O3, but it always worked >> previously) & v8 (tried -O3 & -O2 too) >> but it always segfaults when I try to open the set

Re: [gentoo-user] libv8 segfault

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > I tried compiling all versions of chromium (-O3, but it always worked > previously) & v8 (tried -O3 & -O2 too) > but it always segfaults when I try to open the settings page. > > CrRendererMain[6059]: segfault at 5 ip 7f0d08

[gentoo-user] Re: libv8 segfault

2013-01-23 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 09:22:21 PM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > I tried compiling all versions of chromium (-O3, but it always worked > previously) & v8 (tried -O3 & -O2 too) > but it always segfaults when I try to open the settings page. > > CrRendererMain[6059]: segfault at 5 ip

[gentoo-user] libv8 segfault

2013-01-23 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
I tried compiling all versions of chromium (-O3, but it always worked previously) & v8 (tried -O3 & -O2 too) but it always segfaults when I try to open the settings page. CrRendererMain[6059]: segfault at 5 ip 7f0d0834970c sp 7fff71d91a60 error 4 in libv8.so.3.15.11[7f0d08181000+45

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:10:44 +0200 Thanasis wrote: > on 01/23/2013 04:41 AM »Q« wrote the following: > > On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:57:59 + > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > >> On Sunday 20 January 2013 08:51:43 Philip Webb wrote: > >>> I just tried upgrading to udev-197 , which is supposed to b

[gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/01/13 17:09, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: On Wednesday 23 January 2013 07:52:03 PM IST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] In my experience, most of the time you can overclock. The issue is with the user not knowing exactly how to do it. You need to understand a few things and how they affect e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:53:58 +0800 William Kenworthy wrote: > Hi Silvio, can you check the date on your systems ... your emails are > future dated which kinda stuffs things up ... Yes thank you i have change it. Thank you & Greetings Silvio

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 07:52:03 PM IST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 23/01/13 14:09, Dale wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 23/01/13 03:55, Dale wrote: [...] I tired overclocking once a good while back. It just wasn't worth it. >>> >>> I've been running a Core 2 Duo from 2

[gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/01/13 14:09, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/01/13 03:55, Dale wrote: [...] I tired overclocking once a good while back. It just wasn't worth it. I've been running a Core 2 Duo from 2.4Ghz to 3.4Ghz for over three years. Instead of a new CPU, I only bought a €30 cooler. Oh

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread William Kenworthy
On 24/01/13 21:21, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:30:02 +0100 > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > >> Did you check if the system is swapping when that happen? > > Im sorry, you mean Swap? How can check them best? > > > Thank you & Greetings > Silvio > Hi Silvio, can you ch

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:30:02 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > Did you check if the system is swapping when that happen? Im sorry, you mean Swap? How can check them best? Thank you & Greetings Silvio

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 23/01/13 03:55, Dale wrote: >> [...] >> I tired overclocking once a good while back. It just wasn't worth it. > > I've been running a Core 2 Duo from 2.4Ghz to 3.4Ghz for over three > years. Instead of a new CPU, I only bought a €30 cooler. > > Oh, it *was* totally w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Thanasis
on 01/23/2013 01:10 PM Thanasis wrote the following: > on 01/23/2013 04:41 AM »Q« wrote the following: >> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:57:59 + >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >>> On Sunday 20 January 2013 08:51:43 Philip Webb wrote: I just tried upgrading to udev-197 , which is supposed to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Thanasis
on 01/23/2013 04:41 AM »Q« wrote the following: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:57:59 + > Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> On Sunday 20 January 2013 08:51:43 Philip Webb wrote: >>> I just tried upgrading to udev-197 , which is supposed to be >>> stable. There were multiple problems & I'm now back with u

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:29:19 +0100, Matthias Hanft wrote: > >> Good idea, but as I updated udev yesterday on one of my Gentoo systems, >> in the usual after-update messages there was a line in red, telling me >> "You don't have CONFIG_DEVTMPFS enabled. udev will

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:29:19 +0100, Matthias Hanft wrote: > > This got me too. Now there's a discussion in -dev about making config > > warnings fatal. > > Good idea, but as I updated udev yesterday on one of my Gentoo systems, > in the usual after-update messages there was a line in red, tell

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel Questions

2013-01-23 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 23/01/13, Silvio Siefke wrote: > I use the good old Pentium 4 on the desktop and an atom on the laptop. > But I have often the problem when the computer has much to do, that the > system freeze. That's on the atom often so. The opera is my favorite > Browser, but often the call on a website

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Matthias Hanft
»Q« wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: >> My daily update pulled in udev-197-r3. The installation went smoothly >> but I decided I ought to reboot to check that I could. I couldn't. >> Udev couldn't start because my kernel config didn't have >> CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y. So I booted my rescue system on the sa

[gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault

2013-01-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/01/13 03:55, Dale wrote: [...] I tired overclocking once a good while back. It just wasn't worth it. I've been running a Core 2 Duo from 2.4Ghz to 3.4Ghz for over three years. Instead of a new CPU, I only bought a €30 cooler. Oh, it *was* totally worth it. Mainly for games, where th