Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev
On 05/08/13 23:18, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:24:27 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: But there's not a lot of point as eudev isn't that different to udev now, AFAICT, and a recent update forced me to switch back to udev because eudev hadn't been updated (on ~amd64). Can you elaborate on what this update was that forced you to go back to regular udev? I can't remember what it was now, and it may have been avoidable by making virtual/udev-206 (or whichever version it was that needed a higher udev version than eudev could provide). It's moot now as eudev has been updated and portage is happy again, but it would be a concern if this happened regularly. I expect it to happen around every new udev release that causes slight incompability; the default of the virtual/udev, sys-fs/udev, doesn't have to wait for the alternative providers. - Samuli
Re: [gentoo-user] Is it possible to use the x32 abi gcc version to build a amd64 system?
On Wednesday 07 Aug 2013 16:47:11 东方巽雷 wrote: x32 abi is a new abi which is different from x86_64 and x86.Some softwares cannot compile on x32 system,but glibc,gcc,binutils,works well on x32 abi with faster speed than x86_64.So I would to make such a gcc version,its abi is x32,but its default target is x86_64,similar to cross compiler.Then I can build a x86_64 system with faster speed.The question is how to make such a gcc version? You need to set the right flags for it. I think this was explained in the dev mailing list. But ... I am not sure if the small difference in speed is worth potential breakage? Will all packages in portage build without problems? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev
On 2013-08-10 2:57 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 05/08/13 23:18, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:24:27 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: But there's not a lot of point as eudev isn't that different to udev now, AFAICT, and a recent update forced me to switch back to udev because eudev hadn't been updated (on ~amd64). Can you elaborate on what this update was that forced you to go back to regular udev? I can't remember what it was now, and it may have been avoidable by making virtual/udev-206 (or whichever version it was that needed a higher udev version than eudev could provide). It's moot now as eudev has been updated and portage is happy again, but it would be a concern if this happened regularly. I expect it to happen around every new udev release that causes slight incompability; the default of the virtual/udev, sys-fs/udev, doesn't have to wait for the alternative providers. And thanks for the heads up Samuli. I always emerge -pvuDN world and look very carefully at the results, and I also wait at least 2 or 3 days before installing any system critical updates (has saved me headaches more than once). Ok, here goes... ;)
[gentoo-user] x11-misc/bbpager dependency on x11-wm/blackbox
Hello. I want to use bbpager with the openbox window manager. To my surprising, bbpager has a runtime dependency on blackbox. It does not seem correct to me. I suppose the blackbox window manager is not needed to use bbpager with the openbox window manager. Is that a bug in the bbpager ebuild? Romildo
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev - Reboot Necessary?
On 2013-08-09 7:12 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Last - is simply restarting udev good enough, or should I go ahead and reboot anyway before continuing with other updates? Never got a response to this... I'd prefer to not reboot if I don't have to, but it isn't *that* big a deal if it is 'recommended'...
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev - Reboot Necessary?
On 2013-08-10 10:25 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-08-09 7:12 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Last - is simply restarting udev good enough, or should I go ahead and reboot anyway before continuing with other updates? Never got a response to this... I'd prefer to not reboot if I don't have to, but it isn't *that* big a deal if it is 'recommended'... Two other related questions... 1. Would it be correct to say that if you don't get an error when restarting udev, you *shouldn't* (I know there are never any guarantees) get an error when rebooting? and 2. What happens if I /etc/init.d/udev restart and there is an error of some kind? Will it cause my mail server to come crashing down? Or will it keep running until I can determine the error and fix it? Keep in mind - this is a server, and just runs postfix/dovecot/apache/mysql...
[gentoo-user] Swap is manually 'swapon-able' but not via fstab...?
Hi, When I do a beagleboneblack:/rootswapon /dev/sda2 beagleboneblack:/rootfree total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:507476 50812 456664 0 13108 17244 -/+ buffers/cache: 20460 487016 Swap: 5242876 05242876 swap is added to the system. If I add /dev/sda2 none swap sw0 0 swapspace will not be used after a reboot. dmesg has nothing specific... What did I wrong here? Why get swap not used via fstab? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev
Hmmm... Do I need (I don't think so) the kmod USE flag set for eudev and virtual/udev? I have kernel modules disabled on this system.
[gentoo-user] I don't want portage to update Libreoffice......
Hi all, As per usual an update of Libre Office is failing and causing all sorts of build troubles. I have an install, the previous version, of Libre Office working so how do I stop portage from trying to update to the latest. Emerge --search libreoffice reports Latest version installed: 4.1.0.1. In turn my /etc/portage/package.mask contains the line app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.1 or =app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.1 This results in portage wanting to downgrade libreoffice [ebuild UD ] app-office/libreoffice-4.0.4.2 [4.1.0.1] What do I have to fiddle so that portage won't want to upgrade libreoffice? This is stopping my -NuD world from completing so I need to suppress libreoffice for the time being and come back to it later. Any thoughts, greatly appreciated, Andrew
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want portage to update Libreoffice......
On 10 August 2013 18:27, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote:
Hi all,
As per usual an update of Libre Office is failing and causing all
sorts of build troubles. I have an install, the previous version, of Libre
Office working so how do I stop portage from trying to update to the latest.
Hi Andrew,
put the latest version into package.mask something like this:
=app-office/libreoffice-latest-version
On the other hand, as you described you have version 4.1.0.1, but I
cannot see it in my portage tree, find it below. You would like to
keep this, I mean 4.1.0.1 version?
[I] app-office/libreoffice
Available versions: 4.0.4.2 **4.0. (~)4.1.0.4{tbz2}
**4.1. **-r2
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Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev - Reboot Necessary?
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:33:48 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-09 7:12 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Last - is simply restarting udev good enough, or should I go ahead and reboot anyway before continuing with other updates? Restarting worked for me on a server. On my laptop I switched over at the same tome as a kernel update, so I had to reboot anyway. Never got a response to this... I'd prefer to not reboot if I don't have to, but it isn't *that* big a deal if it is 'recommended'... Two other related questions... 1. Would it be correct to say that if you don't get an error when restarting udev, you *shouldn't* (I know there are never any guarantees) get an error when rebooting? That sounds reasonable. I find checkrestart to be useful in these situations. If it reports everything OK, you will be fine. and 2. What happens if I /etc/init.d/udev restart and there is an error of some kind? Find someone to blame, but not me ;-) Will it cause my mail server to come crashing down? Or will it keep running until I can determine the error and fix it? Keep in mind - this is a server, and just runs postfix/dovecot/apache/mysql... I don't see it being a problem, but in that case, a reboot should clear things. Just make sure you have a package of udev available in case things do go TU. -- Neil Bothwick COMMAND: A suggestion made to a computer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want portage to update Libreoffice......
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 00:27:56 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote: In turn my /etc/portage/package.mask contains the line app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.1 or =app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.1 This results in portage wanting to downgrade libreoffice [ebuild UD ] app-office/libreoffice-4.0.4.2 [4.1.0.1] What do I have to fiddle so that portage won't want to upgrade libreoffice? This is stopping my -NuD world from completing so I need to suppress libreoffice for the time being and come back to it later. 4.1.0.1 is no longer in the portage tree, so 4.0.4.2 is the highest version that fulfils your settings. The solution is to copy the ebuild from /var/db/pkg into your local overlay (you will have to set one up if not already done so) which will keep portage happy. -- Neil Bothwick Daddy, what does formatting drive 'C' mean? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] x11-misc/bbpager dependency on x11-wm/blackbox
130810 José Romildo Malaquias wrote: I want to use bbpager with the Openbox window manager. To my surprise, bbpager has a runtime dependency on blackbox. Try x11-misc/fbpager , which I've been using with Fluxbox for a long time. Occasionally, it disappears mysteriously, but it's easy to restart. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want portage to update Libreoffice......
On 08/10/2013 09:27 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, As per usual an update of Libre Office is failing and causing all sorts of build troubles. I have an install, the previous version, of Libre Office working so how do I stop portage from trying to update to the latest. [ebuild UD ] app-office/libreoffice-4.0.4.2 [4.1.0.1] What do I have to fiddle so that portage won't want to upgrade libreoffice? This is stopping my -NuD world from completing so I need to suppress libreoffice for the time being and come back to it later. Any thoughts, greatly appreciated, Andrew You can use the --exclude parameter (I think?) and it will ignore it for the one command, then after everything is updated you can solve it further. Try: emerge --exclude app-office/libreoffice -NuD world This is not a permanent change but it will allow you to complete your update, then you can set the masking afterwards. Dan
SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev
On 2013-08-10 8:11 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I always emerge -pvuDN world and look very carefully at the results, and I also wait at least 2 or 3 days before installing any system critical updates (has saved me headaches more than once). Ok, here goes... ;) Well, that was about as uneventful as it gets. emerge -C udev emerge -1 eudev etc-update, accepted changes /etc/init.d/udev restart Done... Thanks very much to all who replied to ease my worried mind (especially Neil). :) I added a forum thread about this, just for closure: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7369696.html#7369696
Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-10 8:11 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I always emerge -pvuDN world and look very carefully at the results, and I also wait at least 2 or 3 days before installing any system critical updates (has saved me headaches more than once). Ok, here goes... ;) Well, that was about as uneventful as it gets. emerge -C udev emerge -1 eudev etc-update, accepted changes /etc/init.d/udev restart Done... Thanks very much to all who replied to ease my worried mind (especially Neil). :) I added a forum thread about this, just for closure: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7369696.html#7369696 Glad it went well. If you hadn't asked, it could have been a disaster. Murphy's law you know. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev
On 2013-08-10 2:47 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: Well, that was about as uneventful as it gets. emerge -C udev emerge -1 eudev etc-update, accepted changes /etc/init.d/udev restart Done... Thanks very much to all who replied to ease my worried mind (especially Neil). :) I added a forum thread about this, just for closure: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7369696.html#7369696 Glad it went well. If you hadn't asked, it could have been a disaster. Murphy's law you know. ;-) Exactly... ;) Also, to correct the above - I did do one other thing, but didn't see it until I went to emerge something else... When I emerged another app after updating udev, after the successful emerge there was a warning about some preserved libs fro the old udev, and it told me to (and so I did): emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild lvm2... Thanks again... :) I'm just about done updating everything else that had gotten backed up by my holding off on doing anything about udev...
[gentoo-user] Strange segfaults during PHP emerge - during .configure phase I believe...
Anyone ever seen/can explain these? I had 3 of them, again, apparently during the .configure phase: 2013-08-10T15:08:36-04:00 myhost kernel: conftest[12233]: segfault at 1 ip 7f1fc65e8e47 sp 7690d6e0 error 4 in libc-client.so.1.0.0[7f1fc65a8000+102000] 2013-08-10T15:10:04-04:00 myhost kernel: conftest[23852]: segfault at 1 ip 7fb1e5887e47 sp 7fff7f03f4a0 error 4 in libc-client.so.1.0.0[7fb1e5847000+102000] 2013-08-10T15:11:32-04:00 myhost kernel: conftest[3249]: segfault at 1 ip 7f0077cd6e47 sp 7fff70306050 error 4 in libc-client.so.1.0.0[7f0077c96000+102000] Everything seems ok now after the update... Weird...
Re: [gentoo-user] Swap is manually 'swapon-able' but not via fstab...?
On 10/08/13 17:36, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, When I do a beagleboneblack:/rootswapon /dev/sda2 beagleboneblack:/rootfree total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:507476 50812 456664 0 13108 17244 -/+ buffers/cache: 20460 487016 Swap: 5242876 05242876 swap is added to the system. If I add /dev/sda2 none swap sw0 0 swapspace will not be used after a reboot. dmesg has nothing specific... What did I wrong here? Why get swap not used via fstab? That fstab line looks correct, only things coming to mind are wrong filesystem type for the partition or missing localmount from the boot runlevel. You can check by, # fdisk -l /dev/sda Look at the Id line, it should be 82 if I remember correctly out from memory. And, # rc-update show |grep localmount You should see: localmount | boot I don't think this will help, but I hope it does :P
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 09:57:52AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote I expect it to happen around every new udev release that causes slight incompability; the default of the virtual/udev, sys-fs/udev, doesn't have to wait for the alternative providers. The elegant solution is outlined in my post... http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/275977#275977 I.e. *UNTIL SUCH TIME AS EUDEV HITS STABLE* (on whatever arch you're using), add the entry sys-fs/eudev- ~amd64 to package.keywords (replace amd64 with your arch if necessary). Basically, if you keyword a specific version, and the ebuild gets removed by emerge --sync, there are no eudev ebuilds to satisfy virtual/udev. So portage falls back to udev. My solution isn't hard-coded to any one version, and is immune to to version bumps and removals. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Swap is manually 'swapon-able' but not via fstab...?
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: Hi, When I do a beagleboneblack:/rootswapon /dev/sda2 beagleboneblack:/rootfree total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:507476 50812 456664 0 13108 17244 -/+ buffers/cache: 20460 487016 Swap: 5242876 05242876 swap is added to the system. If I add /dev/sda2 none swap sw0 0 swapspace will not be used after a reboot. dmesg has nothing specific... What did I wrong here? Why get swap not used via fstab? Do you have swap added to the boot runlevel? # rc-update add swap boot -- Regards, Gregory. Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power -- Regards, Gregory. Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev
On 11/08/13 08:36, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 09:57:52AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote I expect it to happen around every new udev release that causes slight incompability; the default of the virtual/udev, sys-fs/udev, doesn't have to wait for the alternative providers. The elegant solution is outlined in my post... http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/275977#275977 I.e. *UNTIL SUCH TIME AS EUDEV HITS STABLE* (on whatever arch you're using), add the entry sys-fs/eudev- ~amd64 to package.keywords (replace amd64 with your arch if necessary). Basically, if you keyword a specific version, and the ebuild gets removed by emerge --sync, there are no eudev ebuilds to satisfy virtual/udev. So portage falls back to udev. My solution isn't hard-coded to any one version, and is immune to to version bumps and removals. bad idea to unmask the new multilib eudev on stable, regarding blockers it has like !=app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20130224-r7 on amd64 multilib when ABI_X86=32 is enabled as in, unresolvable dependencies
