Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread David W Noon
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:10:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01: > On 28/09/2013 00:57, Dale wrote: > > Bruce Hill wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: > >>> I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:57:06PM -0500, Dale wrote: > Bruce Hill wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't have to worry about this. > >> If I do, this could get interesting, again. Dale > > Do you have /usr separate from / ?

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:10:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > One of the very first things you do with /usr at boot time is mount it, > and from then on you use it exactly as if it were always on / anyway. > I'll bet that since you moved all of portage out, your mount options and > fs configs are the

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/09/2013 00:57, Dale wrote: > Bruce Hill wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: >>> I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't have to worry about this. >>> If I do, this could get interesting, again. Dale >> Do you have /usr separate from / ? > > Yep. From my under

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Dale
Bruce Hill wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't have to worry about this. >> If I do, this could get interesting, again. Dale > Do you have /usr separate from / ? Yep. From my understanding tho, eudev is not supposed to be a

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: > Bruce Hill wrote: > > mingdao@workstation ~ $ eselect news read > > 2013-09-27-initramfs-required > > Title Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs > > AuthorWilliam Hubbs > > Posted

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Dale
Bruce Hill wrote: > mingdao@workstation ~ $ eselect news read > 2013-09-27-initramfs-required > Title Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs > AuthorWilliam Hubbs > Posted2013-09-27 > Revision 1 > > Linux syste

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/09/2013 13:18, Philip Webb wrote: > 130927 Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: >> you are encountering a relatively new feature of portage >> that is supposed to make revdep-rebuild & emerge @preserve-rebuild obsolete. >> The logic is, that if you update a package, other packages >> depending on th

[gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Bruce Hill
mingdao@workstation ~ $ eselect news read 2013-09-27-initramfs-required Title Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs AuthorWilliam Hubbs Posted2013-09-27 Revision 1 Linux systems which have / and /usr on separ

[gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-27 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > I'm slowly coming to conclsuion that you are trying to solve a problem > with Gentoo that binary distros already solved a very long time ago. You > are forcing yourself to become the sole maintainer of GrantOS and do all > the heavy lifting of packaging. But, M

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/09/2013 12:37, Grant wrote: >>> I realized I only need two types of systems in my life. One hosted >>> server and bunch of identical laptops. My laptop, my wife's laptop, >>> our HTPC, routers, and office workstations could all be on identical >>> hardware, and what better choice than a lap

Re: [gentoo-user] Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 27.09.2013 12:33, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > I am back from my visit at a customer where I installed a new and shiny > gentoo server for running VMs (KVM). > > Currently I don't have access as my VPN only works from my static IP at > home (my router seems to be offline right now ... and I a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:38:44PM +0200, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote: > On 2013.09.27 at 10:24 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > Hi, > > would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by > > portage to re-emerge > > some packages. > > > > I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.09.2013 15:18, schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht: > Try avoiding to write on disks. Use devices /dev/null and /dev/zero with > both protocol and command lines not optimizing zeros for network tests. > > You could also use dedicated network performance tools if you have > install rights. Will do nex

[gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 27/09/13, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 27.09.2013 15:02, schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht: > > > You should give details of the tests. It looks like a hard disk write > > speed bottleneck. > > I will get access again on monday. > > That's a hardware RAID-10 on 6 SAS disks ... that should be fast

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.09.2013 15:02, schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht: > You should give details of the tests. It looks like a hard disk write > speed bottleneck. I will get access again on monday. That's a hardware RAID-10 on 6 SAS disks ... that should be fast enough ...

[gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 27/09/13, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > I am back from my visit at a customer where I installed a new and shiny > gentoo server for running VMs (KVM). > > Currently I don't have access as my VPN only works from my static IP at > home (my router seems to be offline right now ... and I am sti

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:18:08 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > I have found sometimes that Portage wants to remerge LO or similar, > but in fact the existing installed version continues to work regardless. That's because you aren't using the broken bits. But that's fine as long as it continues to work

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Philip Webb
130927 Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > you are encountering a relatively new feature of portage > that is supposed to make revdep-rebuild & emerge @preserve-rebuild obsolete. > The logic is, that if you update a package, other packages > depending on this package will automatically rebuild to preve

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:28:43AM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > > Here is a full example: > emerge -auv1 app-shells/zsh-completions > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies - * Digest verification failed: > * /LOCAL/local/portage/dev-python/wxp

[gentoo-user] Re: Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Markus Trippelsdorf
On 2013.09.27 at 10:24 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by > portage to re-emerge > some packages. > > I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to emerge, say, > app-shells/zsh-completions > it re-emerges (emerge -vp

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-27 Thread Grant
>> I realized I only need two types of systems in my life. One hosted >> server and bunch of identical laptops. My laptop, my wife's laptop, >> our HTPC, routers, and office workstations could all be on identical >> hardware, and what better choice than a laptop? Extremely >> space-efficient, po

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.09.2013 01:38, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > systemd-analyze blame to see what is taking so long. > > systemd-delta to see what changes from upstream do you have. Thanks ... I cleaned up some cruft already and will test some boot-process soon. Still on the road ...

[gentoo-user] Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
I am back from my visit at a customer where I installed a new and shiny gentoo server for running VMs (KVM). Currently I don't have access as my VPN only works from my static IP at home (my router seems to be offline right now ... and I am still away from office for the weekend) so I can't check

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 09/27/2013 11:09:11 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/09/2013 10:24, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by > portage to re-emerge > some packages. > > I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to emerge, say, > app-shells/zsh-com

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/09/2013 10:24, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by > portage to re-emerge > some packages. > > I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to emerge, say, > app-shells/zsh-completions > it re-emerges (emerge -vp shows 'rR')

[gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by portage to re-emerge some packages. I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to emerge, say, app-shells/zsh-completions it re-emerges (emerge -vp shows 'rR') several packages including, i.e., app-office/libreof