Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Thomas Mueller
> N one is forcing you (unless you have a UEFI board), and more than anyone > is telling you not to use a 2.4 series kernel. > Neil Bothwick This brings a question to mind: Does anybody know what Linux kernel was the first to support GPT? Slackware 13.0, released in 2009 with kernel 2.6.29.6, d

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:14:46 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Actually I did have a bit of a fling with btrfs at that time, but I > couldn't understand what the docs were telling me. I must have had a > comprehension gap or something, but in the end I just went back to what > I knew and reinstalled

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:16:45 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > > When you said a new install, I assumed it was a newer computer, but if > > you don't have UEFI and want Windows you are apparently stuck with > > MBR. > > It does have UEFI and perhaps I should have learned how to use it. I > unde

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-26 14:55 GMT-06:00 Alan McKinnon : >> >> Is that "Alan" as in me? >> > No, I should have written "Allan", I didn't notice the 'll' also as he > was the original poster and I didn't see any post from others with > same name I omitted the last name. >

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Jc García
2015-07-26 14:55 GMT-06:00 Alan McKinnon : > > Is that "Alan" as in me? > No, I should have written "Allan", I didn't notice the 'll' also as he was the original poster and I didn't see any post from others with same name I omitted the last name. Interesting experience you share anyway, of course I

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Todd Goodman wrote: > In the times I've had to deal with support it's usually about doing what > they ask so they finally believe that it's a hardware problem and will > generate the needed RMA # to get replacements. Sometimes that's running > Dell Diagnostics and sometimes i

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 17:06:11 Jc García wrote: >> 2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman : >> > I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) >> > >> > But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other >> > OS' on bare metal

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/07/2015 18:06, Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman : > >> I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) >> >> But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other >> OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't know how well Dell's crap

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* Jc García [150726 12:06]: > 2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman : > > > I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) > > > > But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other > > OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't know how well Dell's crap^W >

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 15:35:15 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to >> 50 takes work as there are "unmovable" files in the middle (the "" are >> there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I di

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 07/26/2015 07:35 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to >> 50 takes work as there are "unmovable" files in the middle (the "" are >> there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I di

[gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-26 Thread James
gmail.com> writes: > > I used to install and look after OpenSuse Desk and Laptops until > > systemd showed it's ugly face. Now I install and look after several > > Gentoo Xfce desktops and 3 OpenSuse Xfce Laptops. I use a Cut & Paste > > script to install Gentoo on Desktops. The only manual pa

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 17:06:11 Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman : > > I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) > > > > But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other > > OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't know how well

[gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-26 Thread James
Bruce Schultz gmail.com> writes: > >> Matthew Marchese writes: >> I see that you've found stager. I'd like you to share your thoughts >> on what a perfect installer Gentoo could do. A successful gentoo installer will: Be multi-faceted so that many differen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-26 Thread wabenbau
Hans wrote: > On 18/07/15 03:25, James wrote: > > > > From [1] we have Project:Installer [2] which looks very > > interesting. However, If I were to create a new gentoo installer, I > > think I'd leverage ansible and the persistence mode (usb stick) > > code that LikeWhoa put together, as a basi

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Jc García
2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman : > I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) > > But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other > OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't know how well Dell's crap^W > support stuff runs in a VM. > The contrar

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 15:35:15 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to > 50 takes work as there are "unmovable" files in the middle (the "" are > there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I didn't try but > simply removed the big p

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* Jc García [150726 11:28]: > 2015-07-26 8:38 GMT-06:00 : > > > > My son wanted me to do that. I didn't because > > > > Something else to learn (I don't run a vm). > > > > I didn't want to face dell support with linux and xen underneath the > > supported windows. > > > That's an exaggeration, Vi

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Jc García
2015-07-26 8:38 GMT-06:00 : > > My son wanted me to do that. I didn't because > > Something else to learn (I don't run a vm). > > I didn't want to face dell support with linux and xen underneath the > supported windows. > That's an exaggeration, VirtualBox is just a few clicks and you get a VM, r

[gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-26 Thread Hans
On 18/07/15 03:25, James wrote: From [1] we have Project:Installer [2] which looks very interesting. However, If I were to create a new gentoo installer, I think I'd leverage ansible and the persistence mode (usb stick) code that LikeWhoa put together, as a basis for the effort. I'd be most cur

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/26/2015 07:35 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote: > >> On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote: >> >>> Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like >>> parted to check. >>> >>> Dan >> >> MSwindows these days installs a separate b

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote: > I'm afraid you're right: > > "Can Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 read, write, and boot > from GPT disks? > > Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. Booting is only > supported for 64-bit editions on UEFI-based systems." > >

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote: > >> Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like >> parted to check. >> >> Dan > > MSwindows these days installs a separate boot partition. The MSWindows boot > manager can be chainl

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > >> PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without >> uefi prevents dual booting windows. > > So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partition > table

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
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Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:39:13 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > When you said a new install, I assumed it was a newer computer, but if > > you don't have UEFI and want Windows you are apparently stuck with > > MBR. > > Neil, I don't know why you make such a fuss about MBR. I've been using > it ev

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 26 July 2015 11:15:03 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > > PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without > > uefi prevents dual booting windows. > > So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partiti

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without > uefi prevents dual booting windows. So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partition table is that you want to use a 1990s operating system on i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:23:22 -0600, Jc García wrote: > * I clicked send before I was finished editing. Good thing it was only an email and not a graphical installer ;-) -- Neil Bothwick It's no use crying over spilt milk -- it only makes it salty for the cat. pgpTTHvbQjDwL.pgp Description: