[gentoo-user] Re: best rss reader?

2020-04-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-04-20 05:09, Ashley Dixon wrote: > [1] https://github.com/kouya/snownews Snownews seems to lack SSL support completely, or am I wrong? The great majority of feeds I read are https:// URLs. -- Ian

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:49 PM Dale wrote: >> Then they created moderators with people to enforce some rules. It got >> better. Actually, a lot better. > That is actually really good to hear. The whole CoC/Proctors thing > has been a bit of a mess and incredibly

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:49 PM Dale wrote: > > Then they created moderators with people to enforce some rules. It got > better. Actually, a lot better. That is actually really good to hear. The whole CoC/Proctors thing has been a bit of a mess and incredibly contentious. It has also been

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 8:09 PM Dale wrote: >> Yea, -dev gets lively when someone steps on the toes of another dev but >> isn't that true about anywhere? Gentoo is somewhat of a niche distro. > I've commented on this elsewhere, but I think these two are related. > With

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 8:09 PM Dale wrote: > Yea, -dev gets lively when someone steps on the toes of another dev but isn't > that true about anywhere? Gentoo is somewhat of a niche distro. I've commented on this elsewhere, but I think these two are related. With more mainstream binary distros

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Dale
Consus wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 08:51:57PM +0200, Ralph Seichter wrote: >> You can choose between learning more about the Linux kernel (it is not >> a Gentoo-specific subject) or opt to go with Genkernel instead. > I'm getting paid for writing Linux Kernel code. Still, manual >

[gentoo-user] Re: best rss reader?

2020-04-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-04-19 21:15, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > i have newsboat, but it got masked. Really? Masked as in package.mask? When? I don't see that. I use it too, and it is better than the alternatives IMO. -- Ian

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

2020-04-21 Thread Consus
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 03:51:00PM -0500, Michael Jones wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:27 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > > > There are some QA/CI tools out there that have substantially improved > > the quality of the distro, and most of them have started out as one > > dev just creating a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

2020-04-21 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph wrote: > I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or physical > hardware with different configurations. I'd like to be more involved with > the Gentoo Development community, but time is rarely ever on my side. > > > Best wishes,

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

2020-04-21 Thread Gregory Rudolph
I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or physical hardware with different configurations. I'd like to be more involved with the Gentoo Development community, but time is rarely ever on my side. Best wishes, gentoo's not dead, Rudi Gregory

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread WooHyung Jeon
On 2020-04-22 오전 6:40, Ashley Dixon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 06:18:59AM +0900, WooHyung Jeon wrote: First, how much different between the gentoo-kernel-bin's '.config', and gentoo-kernel's '.config'? I mean, is it quite similarly big to cover most of the normal devices? gentoo-kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 06:18:59AM +0900, WooHyung Jeon wrote: > First, how much different between the gentoo-kernel-bin's '.config', and > gentoo-kernel's '.config'? I mean, is it quite similarly big to cover most > of the normal devices? gentoo-kernel and gentoo-kernel-bin are the same thing

Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_BUILDDIR does not exist

2020-04-21 Thread Jack
I'd start by looking at /var/tmp/portage/ (unless you changed the default PORTAGE_TMPDIR) to see what evidence the emerge process might have left. On 2020.04.21 16:58, Ashley Dixon wrote: Hi, I've been getting this build message for every package that I attempt to emerge. I'm starting to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread WooHyung Jeon
On 2020-04-22 오전 1:48, Consus wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 06:33:05PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 21/04/2020 18:05, Gerion Entrup wrote: what is the difference between these three packages? I don't get it from the description alone. gentoo-sources: A linux kernel source tree with

[gentoo-user] PORTAGE_BUILDDIR does not exist

2020-04-21 Thread Ashley Dixon
Hi, I've been getting this build message for every package that I attempt to emerge. I'm starting to become concerned that my Portage installation is corrupt, although I want to make sure before I try and embark on the lengthy Portage-rescue process. For example, if I try to

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

2020-04-21 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:27 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > There are some QA/CI tools out there that have substantially improved > the quality of the distro, and most of them have started out as one > dev just creating a tinderbox or whatever and filing bugs when they > see problems. The only real

Re: [gentoo-user] HCL web-page

2020-04-21 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
20.04.2020, 00:56, "the...@sys-concept.com" :There used to be webpage http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/where use could paste output of: lspci -nBut is no longer active, did it change? Use LKDDb instead: https://cateee.net/lkddb/ This is a list of device ids supported by kernel 5.6:

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:01 PM Consus wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 07:47:44PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 17:58:03 BST Consus wrote: > > > > > ... and even distribution kernel is not an official thing, but a desperate > > > attempt of someone to fix things. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread Gerion Entrup
Am Dienstag, 21. April 2020, 18:28:52 CEST schrieb Ashley Dixon: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 06:04:33PM +0200, Gerion Entrup wrote: > > My summary then is: > > > > gentoo-sources: vanilla source tree + gentoo-patches (no automatic compiling > > etc.). > > > > gentoo-kernel: take gentoo-sources as

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 21:33:17 +0300, Consus wrote: > Still you have to manually configure things. And I know that Gentoo is > about choice, but configuring kernel is hard. No it's not. It may be time consuming, especially the first time, but it is not difficult because the handbook explains it

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Consus
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 07:47:44PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 17:58:03 BST Consus wrote: > > > ... and even distribution kernel is not an official thing, but a desperate > > attempt of someone to fix things. > > Eh? Desperate? Yeah, mgorny likes to do some

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Consus
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 08:51:57PM +0200, Ralph Seichter wrote: > You can choose between learning more about the Linux kernel (it is not > a Gentoo-specific subject) or opt to go with Genkernel instead. I'm getting paid for writing Linux Kernel code. Still, manual configuration in 2020 is not not

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Ralph Seichter
* con...@ftml.net: > Still you have to manually configure things. And I know that Gentoo is > about choice, but configuring kernel is hard. It may be hard for you personally, but it is not hard for everyone, so I object to the generalisation. You can choose between learning more about the Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Consus
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 02:41:59PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > Sure, but by that standard Gentoo has been dead from day 1. :) Yeah, I remember. > I'm all for precompiled kernels or packages that build them from > source like any other Gentoo package. However, these have only been a > thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 17:58:03 BST Consus wrote: > ... and even distribution kernel is not an official thing, but a desperate > attempt of someone to fix things. Eh? Desperate? -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:33 PM Consus wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 02:10:54PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:58 PM Consus wrote: > > > > > > even distribution kernel is not an > > > official thing, but a desperate attempt of someone to fix things. > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Consus
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 02:10:54PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:58 PM Consus wrote: > > > > even distribution kernel is not an > > official thing, but a desperate attempt of someone to fix things. > > > > Huh? gentoo-sources is in at least as good a shape as I've ever

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:58 PM Consus wrote: > > even distribution kernel is not an > official thing, but a desperate attempt of someone to fix things. > Huh? gentoo-sources is in at least as good a shape as I've ever seen it. I'd argue it is in better shape than at a lot of times in the

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-21 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Martin, > > On Monday, 2020-04-20 18:21:00 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.3.3 0 1 >> ... >> The second value depends on your ARCH; >> Since {isunstable} fails, I suppose that your ARCH is not amd64. > >$ eix --dump | grep

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 07:58:03PM +0300, Consus wrote: > In all honesty, is Gentoo dead? Gentoo-Dev is filled with passive > aggression (though being developers-only mailing list), Github bot warns > you that contributing new packages to the main repo is low priority and > probably no one will

[gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-21 Thread Consus
Hi, In all honesty, is Gentoo dead? Gentoo-Dev is filled with passive aggression (though being developers-only mailing list), Github bot warns you that contributing new packages to the main repo is low priority and probably no one will help you, and even distribution kernel is not an official

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread Consus
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 06:33:05PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 21/04/2020 18:05, Gerion Entrup wrote: > > what is the difference between these three packages? I don't get it from > > the description alone. > > > > gentoo-sources: A linux kernel source tree with Gentoo patchset > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 06:04:33PM +0200, Gerion Entrup wrote: > My summary then is: > > gentoo-sources: vanilla source tree + gentoo-patches (no automatic compiling > etc.). > > gentoo-kernel: take gentoo-sources as source, the kernel .config file from > Arch Linux and then compile and install it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread Gerion Entrup
Am Dienstag, 21. April 2020, 17:47:08 CEST schrieb Ashley Dixon: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 06:33:05PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 21/04/2020 18:05, Gerion Entrup wrote: > > > gentoo-kernel: ??? > > > > Unfortunately he didn't say anything about gentoo-kernel-bin. So... no idea. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Converting a Portage Flat File to a Directory Structure

2020-04-21 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 09:18:04AM -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: > I wasn't aware that you could put sub-directories in > /etc/portage/package.use. I've always had to put the files directly in that > directory, not sub-directories. As such, my files have names like > sys-apps-util-linux to avoid

[gentoo-user] How to change keyboard layout for 1 keyboard only

2020-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
Hi All, I got my hands on a Razer gaming keypad which I want to use for games, but possibly also for other tasks. On MS Windows there is a tool to change the key mapping of this device. For Linux, I can't find any (yet). It is seen as a seperate keyboard and according to some howtos I found,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread Gerion Entrup
Am Dienstag, 21. April 2020, 17:33:05 CEST schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 21/04/2020 18:05, Gerion Entrup wrote: > > what is the difference between these three packages? I don't get it from > > the description alone. > > > > gentoo-sources: A linux kernel source tree with Gentoo patchset > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 06:33:05PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 21/04/2020 18:05, Gerion Entrup wrote: > > gentoo-kernel: ??? > > Unfortunately he didn't say anything about gentoo-kernel-bin. So... no idea. gentoo-kernel-bin is, as its description on packages.gentoo.org would suggest: a

[gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 21/04/2020 18:05, Gerion Entrup wrote: what is the difference between these three packages? I don't get it from the description alone. gentoo-sources: A linux kernel source tree with Gentoo patchset gentoo-kernel-bin: A linux kernel binary image with initramfs? gentoo-kernel: ??? This is

Re: [gentoo-user] Converting a Portage Flat File to a Directory Structure

2020-04-21 Thread Grant Taylor
On 4/20/20 7:13 AM, Ashley Dixon wrote: Hi gentoo-user, Hi, Following the recent conversation started by Meino, I have decided to convert my package.* files to directory structures. For all but one, this has proven tedious, but relatively painless. My package.use file is another

[gentoo-user] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel vs. sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

2020-04-21 Thread Gerion Entrup
Hi, what is the difference between these three packages? I don't get it from the description alone. gentoo-sources: A linux kernel source tree with Gentoo patchset gentoo-kernel-bin: A linux kernel binary image with initramfs? gentoo-kernel: ??? Best, Gerion signature.asc Description: This is

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-21 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Martin, On Monday, 2020-04-20 18:21:00 -, you wrote: > ... > >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.3.3 0 1 > ... > The second value depends on your ARCH; > Since {isunstable} fails, I suppose that your ARCH is not amd64. $ eix --dump | grep DEFAULT_ARCH DEFAULT_ARCH="amd64"

Re: [gentoo-user] best rss reader?

2020-04-21 Thread Emmanuel Vasilakis
On 4/20/20 12:15 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: summary of questions: - 1. what rss feed reader do you use? net-news/quiterss 2. what are your theoretical principles that guided you to choose the rss feed that you use. Configure-ability. I