Re: [gentoo-user] About "make install all" when kernel building

2016-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
cond entry and clearly label it as the old one. Then you can select it if the new one does fail to boot. It's easier that way than trying to edit it in grub's editor -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/09/2016 00:12, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 07.09.2016 um 08:18 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 07/09/2016 01:57, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 01.09.2016 um 11:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 01/09/2016 09:18, gevisz wrote: 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help! IP blocking not working

2016-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
iptables are done you're >> fixing the barn doors after the horses have already left. > > > I said I was under attack but it was really just an unthrottled and > very greedy bot. fail2ban would have gotten him. But while we're on > the subject, how would you recommend thwarting a DDoS attack against a > dedicated server in a hosted environment? Cloudflare? A proper DDos? Phone your ISP and ask them to help you. You almost certainly don't have the resources. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Wastebin or trash?

2016-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
and moves deleted > emails into a different mailbox; not that I've ever seen a mail server > do that), therefore changing the locale on the mail server won't help > and it is indeed something on the client that needs to be changed. > Or maybe wastebin in "empty wastebin" is a simple common noun whereas the folder called "Trash" is a proper noun. KDE widgets in my experience often have oddities like this. If it's something like that, you may have to find the file containing display strings and change it there -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

2016-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
gs. And the kernel has never guaranteed any mapping at all between device order on the bus and node names. Deal with it, live with it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/09/2016 01:57, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 01.09.2016 um 11:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> On 01/09/2016 09:18, gevisz wrote: >>> 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>: >>>> On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: >> [

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help! IP blocking not working

2016-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
this. Ossec with it's active response is also good. There are quite a few more tools in this space, and they all work much the same way - scan logs looking for dodgy stuff going on the dynamically apply a packet filter rule. The software also does it all day every day, and that's a record you the human can

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

2016-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
e > > I did not. So, it is a bug in a almighty Grand Unified Boot Loader! or the MUCH more likely: you did it wrong. That's something you seem to do a lot of. You might want to look into that. Also the bit where you listen to others who have done it right. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

2016-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/09/2016 21:39, gevisz wrote: 2016-09-06 22:08 GMT+03:00 Rich Freeman : On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:01 PM, gevisz wrote: I have already looked into this file but did not find where to set the UUID of the root partion. It depends. :) Usually you end

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] -print0 but with 'locate'

2016-09-03 Thread Alan Mackenzie
marks around each file name, for example like this: locate -1 . | sed "s/^.*$/\'&\'/" | xargs md5sum > Thank you very much in advance for any help! > Best regards > Meino -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] -print0 but with 'locate'

2016-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
's no reason to not use find, then you get all the -print0 goodness that you *really* need. The alternative is to struggle endlessly with bash quoting rules to get quotes around your filenames and quote the arguments to md5sum. Or some magic with awk (all of which is many many times more cpu work than your objection to find) So use find :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 10:49, gevisz wrote: 2016-09-01 10:30 GMT+03:00 Matthias Hanft : gevisz wrote: But what are disadvantages of not partitioning a big hard drive into smaller logical ones? If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are unable to repair it), *all* of your data is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/09/2016 00:56, Kai Krakow wrote: Am Wed, 31 Aug 2016 02:32:24 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>: On 31/08/2016 02:08, Grant wrote: [...] [...] You can't control ownership and permissions of existing files with mount options on a Linux filesystem. See man

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
you have a point. If ~arch, then you don't have a point. Gentoo has pretty much always expected you to deal with $WHATEVER_HAPPENS on ~arch. There has never been a guarantee (not even a loose one) that anything will ever stick around in ~arch. Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 10:44, gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 10:23 GMT+03:00 Frank Steinmetzger <war...@gmx.de>: >> On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:13:23AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. >>> And a few more to mkfs it. >>&

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
ike you have to hold its hand >> while mkfs is running. > > But I would have to keep my fingers crossed so that > there would not be a sudden blackout during the formatting > hard disk anyway. :) Even if it does, so what? Unplug, start over. It's a mkfs, it lays down where the inodes are. You can do it over and over and over and over safely -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 09:18, gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>: >> On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: [snip] >> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. >> And a few more to mkfs it. > > Just to partitio

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
re than a Microsoft invention from the 80s so people could install UCSD Pascal next to MS-DOS -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 05:42, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On August 31, 2016 11:45:15 PM GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon > <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 31/08/2016 17:25, Grant wrote: >>>>> Is there a >>>>> filesystem that will make that unnecessar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/08/2016 17:25, Grant wrote: Is there a filesystem that will make that unnecessary and exhibit better reliability than NTFS? Yes, FAT. It works and works well. Or exFAT which is Microsoft's solution to the problem of very large files on FAT. FAT32 won't work for me since I need to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
n used in a Windows machine the driver there has issues with the FS. Remount it in Linux again and all is good. The cynic in me says that Microsoft didn'y implement their own FS spec properly whereas ntfs-ng did :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
ks". > Something intrigues me about this thread: If the file in question is so valuable and expensive, why don't you make another copy of the original onto a new USB stick? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @system

2016-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2016 12:56, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 12:06:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: You should elaborate more and be specific on what you mean by "The reason is an intermittent series of apparently unrelated things going wrong." Here's one then: In KMail (yes, I know*)

Re: [gentoo-user] USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2016 14:04, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:08:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the first place. My point was against all the journalised filesystems (that includes NTFS), not against your advice ;) OP

Re: [gentoo-user] USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
advice ;) > OP is looking for an fs to put on a memory stick that will work everywhere: - vfat - exfat -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @system

2016-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2016 11:25, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 00:07:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Don't forget that @system only lives in a context, and the context is a >> real computer. >> >> Out of context it's just a list of strings. In context, it's

Re: [gentoo-user] python-updater: depclean removes it?

2016-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2016 21:29, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 08/29/2016 03:08 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: Did something change recently? I was doing some updates and noticed app-admin/python-updater was removed. It's still in the tree but the system decided it was no longer needed - was it removed from @system?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @system

2016-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
. Don't worry about @system, worry about USE and get that right. Emerge will deal with what it takes to give the user the @system he's really asking for. Or maybe I don't completely understand yet Peter's actual question. Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-08-22 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Peter. On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 02:23:25PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 22 Aug 2016 11:19:07 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 10:12:59AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > After this morning's sync, both versions 4.4.6 and 4.6.4 of > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-08-22 Thread Alan Mackenzie
servers. I restrict myself (mostly) to stable releases, and there hasn't been one for gentoo-sources for a very long time. The latest stable kernel I see (with $ eshowkw gentoo-sources) is 4.1.15-r1, although 4.4.6 was stable and available at one stage :-(. > -- > Rgds > Peter -- Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
k --verbose) and the real cause is often obscured inside a longer sentence. Practice I guess. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
e same problems you mention. I did it mostly to prove to myself I still have what it takes, but it sure wasn't worth it for any other reason. The box gets updated about monthly now - it has a small number of routine arch packages found on a LAN, and updates maybe 20 or so packages a month. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/08/2016 19:14, Willie M wrote: > On 08/16/2016 03:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 16/08/2016 02:24, james wrote: >>> >>>> Please post the output of layman -l >>> alunduil >>> java >>> pentoo >>> science >>> sunrise

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
if you leave it in the garage for 6 months it complains very very loudly. I've been reading this thread all along, and one thing is clear to me: Gentoo is not for you (unless you change your expectations), it does not do what yu want and likely never will. You need a binary distro. -- Alan McKinno

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/08/2016 02:24, james wrote: > >> Please post the output of layman -l > alunduil > java > pentoo > science > sunrise > torbrower > ultrabug > xmw That's what I thought. I reckon I know what your problem is. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
cally; dozens of times as I update 3 or 4 times a week. Please post the output of layman -l > > > > YMMV. --livin the dream, brah, livin the dream. > hth, > James > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about genkernel's default kernel config

2016-08-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
for a binary distro or a LiveCD - works everywhere (by enabling everything). You can customized it with a config somehwow (I forget the details). But this is gentoo: cd /usr/src/ make menuconfig -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/kde-l10n-16.04.3:5/5::gentoo conflicting with kde-apps/kdepim-l10n-15.12.3:5/5::gentoo

2016-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
wl.) > > Dan > > Every time I've seen Thunderbird stuuter and stall, it's been network related. Usually I'm trying to access a large IMAP store remotely (that tends to stall all IMAP clients to some degree depending on how well the system deals with blocking). -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/kde-l10n-16.04.3:5/5::gentoo conflicting with kde-apps/kdepim-l10n-15.12.3:5/5::gentoo

2016-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2016 09:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 08 Aug 2016 22:45:09 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> KMail is the lost child of KDE for many months now, I reckon this >> situation is just going to get worse and worse. I know for myself my >> mail problems ceased the day I

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/kde-l10n-16.04.3:5/5::gentoo conflicting with kde-apps/kdepim-l10n-15.12.3:5/5::gentoo

2016-08-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/08/2016 19:20, Michael Mol wrote: > > > > > On Monday, August 08, 2016 06:52:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 08/08/2016 17:02, Michael Mol wrote: > >> > Been getting this in my email every morning for several days now. Rather > >

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 MTA at the same host

2016-08-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
> What i need to change in ebuild files of these packages in order to > install both of them ? > > Thanks. > > -- > *This message was delivered using 100% recycledelectrons***. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/kde-l10n-16.04.3:5/5::gentoo conflicting with kde-apps/kdepim-l10n-15.12.3:5/5::gentoo

2016-08-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
/4::gentoo, installed) > > > Now, it's not clear, if I'd like to continue using both KMail and non- > deprecated kde-apps, what to do here. Just hope that kdepim gets updated to > qt5 soon? I'd pitch in, but I don't have the time. > please post the portion of the output/mail that shows the blockers. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2016 17:01, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Check the link posted by Douglas. > Ubers article has some misunderstandings about the architecture with > conclusions drawn that are, at least also, caused by their database

Re: [gentoo-user] Opera-12 license mask warning

2016-07-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
e informative to do away with any guessing? > echo $category/$package $license > /etc/portage/package.license I guess it's not listed explicitly in every ebuild with a non-free license because you are supposed to know how to unmask stuff on your on Gentoo system. The info is in the portage man pages -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. I am running both DBs on different desktop PCs for akonadi and I'm also running MySQL on a number of websites. Let's which one goes sideways first. :p

Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness

2016-07-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/07/2016 18:53, Andrew Lowe wrote: On 27/07/16 00:10, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 26/07/2016 18:01, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I can remember in the distant past that I had to have my modem turned on before the computer otherwise, I wouldn't get an IP address. Then something changed. One

Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness

2016-07-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
g time" or > something similar that I need to set to get this running nicely again? > > Thoughts greatly appreciated, > Andrew > There's no single global default, that is set is whatever dhcp client you are using. Which one is it? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

2016-07-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/07/2016 22:04, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On 07/19/2016 03:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 19/07/2016 20:58, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Can anyone tell me what package I need to get the KF5 kcmshell modules for >>> i

Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

2016-07-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/07/2016 20:58, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone tell me what package I need to get the KF5 kcmshell modules for > icons and styles? > plasma-desktop: alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so * Searching for /usr/li

Re: [gentoo-user] Install dkms: which package

2016-07-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
easy if > they're > frozen. > > > It is not in portage. It is a unique module. Edited by me in the source > code. > > But how can I install the module without dkms? usually I make this > automatically with dkms :S > make, make install, modprobe ? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage getting slicker?

2016-07-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
ng. The input set for those commands differs, so the output set might also be different. Those two commands you ran are not guaranteed to produce the same results (although the often will). -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage getting slicker?

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 23:41, James wrote: Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: On 13/07/2016 20:25, James wrote: So, today I ran a sync and upgrade to a gentoo workstation:: emerge -uvDNp world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: qtcore 5 missing the lrelease binary?

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
can't find /usr/lib64/qt5/bin/lrelease, which (I think) should be in the qtcore package. % qfile /usr/lib64/qt5/bin/lrelease dev-qt/linguist-tools (/usr/lib64/qt5/bin/lrelease) Instant help from Alan and Neil, two foreigners from the other side of the planet. Thanks, guys :) I'll let you kno

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage getting slicker?

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 20:25, James wrote: So, today I ran a sync and upgrade to a gentoo workstation:: emerge -uvDNp world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gitlab experiences

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
ram to the framework it is running on. Cloud vendors charge way to much for extra ram, so performance of ram-intensive services are often run where there is ample ram. Depends. It might all be running on a single-threaded ruby process in the middleware :-) Don't laugh, I've seen stranger things. Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gitlab experiences

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
it seems like it is a java app. In the github mirror of gitlab(the main app), the file stats are: 2,253 Ruby 697 Haml 319 Markdown 158 CoffeeScript 99 SCSS 90 Cucumber 40 YAML 39 HTML+ERB 26 SVG 25 JavaScript Huh. (Double huh...) As Alan is always quick to quip:: JavaScript ain't java, so that changes th

Re: [gentoo-user] qtcore 5 missing the lrelease binary?

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
around that problem but now vbox fails to build because of an undefined GL variable, so I've got other (useflag?) problems to solve, but meanwhile I'd be grateful for any hints. Thanks. It comes from linguist-tools, looks like you'll get it with USE="nls" (or any of several USE case

Re: [gentoo-user] executing a command as a nologin user

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 19:05, wabe wrote: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: On 13/07/2016 18:42, wabe wrote: Fernando Rodriguez <cyklon...@gmail.com> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/13/2016 07:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 12/07/2016 03:47,

Re: [gentoo-user] executing a command as a nologin user

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 18:42, wabe wrote: Fernando Rodriguez <cyklon...@gmail.com> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/13/2016 07:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 12/07/2016 03:47, jens w wrote: .procmailrc :0 c * !^X-Loop: n...@example.com | formail -X "From:&q

Re: [gentoo-user] executing a command as a nologin user

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
y as it is in other users. but the script do nothing. How executing a command as a nologin user? You can't, not the way you are doing it. You want to launch a shell script for the user, but the user's shell is /sbin/nologin. This exits immediately without launching the script. Give the user a real shell. Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] executing a command as a nologin user

2016-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
definition for a command interpreter (something like #!/bin/sh)? yes and yes. it works for default user. it does not work for nologin user. as workaround I forward the mail to a helper-user, and process it there does that nologin user have a mailbox? A real one, actually on the disk? Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] Using SSH around the LAN

2016-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
en user's keychain creds are valid over all that user's login sessions on a machine. User's cannot share each other's keychain -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wireless DHCP takes over resolv.conf

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 23:03, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2016-07-11, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/07/2016 22:29, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2016-07-11, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: why don't you go with the dns server addresses supplied by each ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 23:05, konsolebox wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:50 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/07/2016 22:07, konsolebox wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks, that led me to sync the kde-sunset over

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
*OVERLAY setting in make.conf that must be removed when using the new repos.conf Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wireless DHCP takes over resolv.conf

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 22:29, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2016-07-11, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: why don't you go with the dns server addresses supplied by each network's dhcp? Presumably the admin put them their because they work on that network. One might think that, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless DHCP takes over resolv.conf

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 20:13, Mick wrote: On Monday 11 Jul 2016 17:31:29 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 11/07/2016 10:32, Emanuele Rusconi wrote: Wouldn't it be better to just use the same servers for both wired and wireless? It's what I use and it works flawlessly. It works flawlessly *for you

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless DHCP takes over resolv.conf

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
wired and wireless network will use the same dns caches. If it happens to work, great, use it. But be aware there will come a day when that is no longer true. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 02:46, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 07/10/2016 01:27 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> It's an overlay, not an Attic. Enable the overlay with layman. >> >> A single kde-4 ebuild is useless without the rest of KDE it depends on. >> > > I just tried t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
ons. I have many times observed comments on -dev where kde maintainers bitch loudly about how difficult it is to maintain the large monolithic kde packages of versions <5. All this seems to add up to the opposite of what you are claiming. Alan [1] Be careful not to commit the human pro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
uld be placed into the gentoo wiki for users to reference. Do post back your experience with those instructions, should you give it a test drive. It's an overlay, not an Attic. Enable the overlay with layman. A single kde-4 ebuild is useless without the rest of KDE it depends on. Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 21:19, Philip Webb wrote: 160711 konsolebox wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote: What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? root:508 ~> eix konsole [U?] kde-apps/konsole Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 20:54, Andrew Savchenko wrote: Hi, On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:44:45 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? root:508 ~> eix konsole [U?] kde-apps/konsole Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test} Installed versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 19:43, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:22:32 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: The KDE project are notorious for that, or at least in my book they are. I told them last year that if I'd allowed an embryonic KDE-4 out the door the way they did I'd have been out of a job

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nodejs 6.2.1 fails to compile

2016-06-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
his has nothing to do with Java. It's JavaScript which bears zero relation to Java apart from the 3 letters j, v (twice) and a showing up in the name. JavaScript is a cute name coined by Netscape way back in the 90s to cash in on the java craze when Sun released 1.0 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge of `screen' possible perl mismatch

2016-06-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
). I suppose this sort of issue is best handled with dependencies in the texinfo ebuild itself. Probably warrants a bug entry if re-emerging texinfo fixes it -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Me, and how to troll LIKE A BOSS.

2016-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/06/2016 00:14, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2016, 16:31:22 schrieb Alan Grimes: Hello, Let me introduce myself again. [snip] Alan is currently enjoying a vacation from the list. No point in replying anymore. What

Re: [gentoo-user] booting - I don't anystand how the (Linux) world works anymore

2016-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
t device naming came into udev, to try guarantee the same device will always have the same name -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Me, and how to troll LIKE A BOSS.

2016-06-25 Thread Alan Grimes
Hello, Let me introduce myself again. I'm 38. I have no job, I have not had a job in 4 years. I can't get a job because I have not had job in 4 years. Literally, nobody will hire me. My computer is six years old. All I want it to do is just keep working the way it did last week. My health

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/06/2016 20:58, Dale wrote: Since Alan's post makes more sense to me than the docs, I added the L10N to make.conf and I got a clean output. So, that works. Mine is what Alan posted. I guess I'm ready for the future now.;-) And gmail helpfully delivered half my mail after me being out

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/06/2016 22:09, Dale wrote: allan gottlieb wrote: On Fri, Jun 24 2016, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 24/06/2016 16:06, allan gottlieb wrote: Having read the latest news article and rereading parts of the localization guide, it is not clear to me what action, if any, I need to take. My

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/06/2016 17:40, Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 24 Jun 2016 09:54:35 Dale wrote: I agree that the news item was confusing. The guide it linked to wasn't much better either. In the end, I just fiddled with the setting until I found a setting that didn't change what I already

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
llel and the devs will do the heavy lifting. For the moment all changes will be light touch, the big tasks will happen later. One day you will need to remove LINGUAS from make.conf entirely, but that day is not today. And all of this is necessary because making a USE_EXPAND env var called LINGUAS was a really stupid idea from day one. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

2016-06-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/06/2016 09:57, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Does anyone have a pointer to where Gnome 3 (3.20 in my case) stores my wifi credentials? I would love to sync that over to my new laptop without re-entering PSKs at customers. Surely the password is kept in an encrypted wallet? Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] how to upgrade perl

2016-06-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/06/2016 18:27, lee wrote: Hi, how do you do an update despite perl blocking it? emerge -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y --keep-going @world [...] dev-lang/perl:0 (dev-lang/perl-5.22.2:0/5.22::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by =dev-lang/perl-5.22*

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/06/2016 02:02, José Maldonado wrote: El 16/06/16 a las 16:33, Rich Freeman escribió: FWIW - the subject of this thread suggests that this is some kind of "official" Gentoo thing. As far as I can tell somebody took it upon themselves to make this available for Gentoo, but it is not in any

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/06/2016 21:11, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:27:29 + (UTC) James wrote: José Maldonado gmail.com> writes: The last days, ArsTechnica publish this new:

Re: [gentoo-user]

2016-06-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
. You ask a very basic question. That is best answered by finding articles on grub on gentoo wiki, reading them then coming back with more specific questions if any Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] [A bit off-topic] Bash alias and

2016-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/06/2016 16:33, Nico Verrijdt wrote: Hi Andrew, 2016-06-12 16:26 GMT+02:00 Andrew Lowe >: Hi all, A bit off topic here, but there are plenty of people who seem to know their shells back to front so here goes. I

Re: [gentoo-user] imagemagick / graphicsmagick collision

2016-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/06/2016 12:50, Heiko Baums wrote: Am 12.06.2016 um 12:05 schrieb Alan McKinnon: My main desktop has been giving me these stupid error for a week now. ANd I can't figure out what portage wants to do or how to stop it (other than masking graphics magick): [blocks B ] media-gfx

Re: [gentoo-user] imagemagick / graphicsmagick collision

2016-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/06/2016 12:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:05:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: My main desktop has been giving me these stupid error for a week now. ANd I can't figure out what portage wants to do or how to stop it (other than masking graphics magick): [blocks B

[gentoo-user] imagemagick / graphicsmagick collision

2016-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
lready have a suitable *magick and decides I ought to have the blocker? Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] How to decode this?

2016-06-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
d bug and should be reported at bgo. My setup has all those packages installed since a long time, but trying to re-install fails the same way as you. I reckon the maintainer missed the build failure. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

2016-05-31 Thread Alan Grimes
>Sadly, your acid_demeanor precludes you from such opportunities. So if you change your mind and want to take a professional approach to palidromes, you >might just establish some new friendships. Think things over a bit and let me know should you want to access more aggressive resources. YES, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

2016-05-31 Thread Alan Grimes
J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, May 30, 2016 08:57:01 PM Alan Grimes wrote: >> Gregory Woodbury wrote: >>> What the...? >>> Do you have every package there is installed? The worst updates I >>> have seen >>> are only 40-50 packages. 403 bein

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/libksane blocker

2016-05-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
ight be > a actual bug but before I file one, I want to hear from someone else who > can confirm it. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > P. S. I hate breaking down a lawn mower tire when it is 92F outside > with some humidity. Also, I live under a large hill, no wind. I guess > it could be 98F tho. o_O > It could be worse. You could live in Africa and deal with roads at temp 42 C :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

2016-05-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/05/2016 02:32, Alan Grimes wrote: > Dale wrote: >> Do you really want a answer to that? Seriously? You asked so I guess >> you do. Here it is. Yes! lol The way you do things, and continue to >> do things, even after having several VERY experienced users tell yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

2016-05-30 Thread Alan Grimes
Gregory Woodbury wrote: > What the...? > Do you have every package there is installed? The worst updates I > have seen > are only 40-50 packages. 403 being 25% implies around 1600 - 1700 > packages. > Actually that seems about right, but why are you getting that many > updates? You > may have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

2016-05-30 Thread Alan Grimes
Neil Bothwick wrote: > Have you read the emerge and portage man pages anytime in the last five > years? I tried to extract useful information from the emerge manpage a few days ago but it contained no useful information, manpages are written in moonspeak anyway. I thought portage was just the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

2016-05-30 Thread Alan Grimes
says it all. If > I post that I was doing something and getting a bad result and someone > such as Neil and/or Alan McKinnon tells me I am doing it wrong, you can > bet your last dollar that I am about to change how I do things. Why, if > either or both of them tell me I am doing so

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