Re: [gentoo-user] dual-linuxdistro-boot kernel question
On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 13:12 +, Fernando Meira wrote: - when having 2 different distro on 1 pc, do they have to use the same kernel? no -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 14:54 -0400, Sean Reiser wrote: Fernando Meira wrote: The question is...can you live without the windows partition? Well, maybe. The problem is that sometimes I need to use something that works only under windows (or better under windows). Besides that I only use windows for video-conference (I haven't found the time to look for a linux replacement, assuming that my webcam works under linux). mmhmm... the webcam / video-conference stuff is not something I have much expirience with either, sorry to say. As far as the other software is concerned I would look at the crossover office fork of wine (assuming that wine itself won't run it) or maybe some virtualization software such as vmare. I don't have any experience with it, but gnomemeeting might be something you would be interested in -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 17:42 +, Fernando Meira wrote: which I understand because it is trying to use *vi* and I don't have it. If I'm not wrong, vi is not even in portage. So, is there a way to work around this, maybe using another editor to edit it? emerge vim and it should make vi link to vim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Badges
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 10:22 -0700, Bryan Green wrote: I put Gentoo on my mom's computer. I got tired of her asking me questions about her computer concerning the Windows OS, so I installed an OS *I* could help her maintain, and not feel disgusted with. Just wanted to share that... Has anyone else out there put Gentoo on their parents computers? -bryan I just bought my parents a new computer and am going to put gentoo on it and vmware with windows for the occasion where they really do need windows. I can fix their problems better with linux, and my mom and sister like to browse all kinds of crappy websites and end up with spyware all over the place with windows. I would reccommend gentoo to a noob any time. Once you get past the installation and get gnome running, anyone can use it. I also think that it is easier to install new software with gentoo than with other distros. One of my friends who doesnt know sh!t about computers installed fedora, and almost every day he needs help figuring out how to install some program. I wish I had told him to go with gentoo, because then he could just emerge pretty much anything he needs. The people who would be confused with more advanced configuration/administration/whatever are the same people who probably dont need to do any of that stuff. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 18:26 +, Fernando Meira wrote: Thanks anyway Luke! This looks like a crazy mouse behaviour... suddenly jumps to another place and open the menu. I think E17 never crashed (as I said before), but, in fact, what happen (at least the last time) was that when the pointer jumped away, opened the menu and (because I was trying to move the mouse, looking for it, or always happens this) selected the exit enlightenment option. I already logged out 3 times without being my intention. Everything else seems to be going ok, just this mouse is causing a mess in here... quite hard to do anything... The mouse is connected to the PS2, and xorg.conf has: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol Auto Option Device /dev/input/mouse0 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Cheers, Fernando You should subscribe to the enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list and post this same message there. It probably has something to do with the WM rather than your X config if it worked just fine with another window manager -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:20 -0400, fire-eyes wrote: On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 14:45 +0200, Fernando Meira wrote: How stable is e17? The new stuff worth it? Any comments about this? E17 is still beta or maybe even just alpha code. It is not stable by a long shot, and I find it rather difficult to use, when everything compiles (it often doesn't). For experimenting I would say go ahead, and you can find a nice guide on this at: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_emerge_e17 Just remember it's very early code, and it may or may not build from one day to the next. But it's neat to toy with :) I run this every day to recompile from CVS. Somtimes it compiles, sometimes it doesnt, but I dont really care. I don't think it is difficult to use at all, you will rarely need to change much from the command line. The only thing that can be a bitch is making all the eapp files, but you can get other peoples' and use them. echo =x11-wm/e- -* =dev-db/edb- -* =dev-libs/eet- -* =media-libs/imlib2- -* =media-libs/imlib2_loaders- -* =x11-libs/evas- -* =x11-libs/ecore- -* =media-libs/epeg- -* =media-libs/epsilon- -* =dev-libs/embryo- -* =media-libs/edje- -* =x11-libs/esmart- -* =media-libs/etox- -* =x11-libs/ewl- -* =dev-libs/engrave- -* =dev-util/e_utils- -* =x11-misc/entrance- -* =app-misc/evidence- -* =x11-misc/engage- -* =media-gfx/elicit- -* =media-gfx/entice- -* =media-video/elation- -* =media-video/envision- -* =app-misc/examine- -* =media-libs/emotion- -* =mail-client/embrace- -* =net-news/erss- -* =media-video/eclair- -* =sci-calculators/equate- -* =x11-plugins/e_modules- -* /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo edje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclair e_modules -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 17:59 +0200, Christoph Gysin wrote: ... I'd suggest running this once: ... and then the following each time you want to update: emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo edje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclair e_modules Else you'll lose everything previously defined in your package.keywords :-( good call. I don't have anything else in that file so I didnt really pay any attention to what that script was doing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 16:51 +, Fernando Meira wrote: Thank you all for answering :) I'm getting the feeling that I should go for e17 after what I've been seeing and reading!!! (though a few guys returned back to e16 afterwards). Luke, you been using it for 3 months and never used e16. So, would you said that I should start my experience with enlightenment wm in its newer version and skip the learning stage in its stable version? :) I dont see any reason not to try e17. I also dont see any reason not to try e16 if you think it looks interesting as well. I think e17 is going to be, if its not already, better in just about every way than e16. I don't think that emergeing e17 will overwrite e16, because the executable for e17 is called enlightenment-0.17, which probably was done intentionally so that enlightenment from e16 wouldnt be overwritten -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 16:56 +, Fernando Meira wrote: I might be wrong, but isn't that a unnecessary step?? Even though you don't have anything else in package.keywords, once you specify there the packages to unmask, you don't need to do it again when you want to update E, right? Just running the 'emerge (...)' would suffice... Fernando On 8/3/05, Luke Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good call. I don't have anything else in that file so I didnt really pay any attention to what that script was doing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list yeah you only need to do the package.keywords stuff once. I just pasted that all into a script the first time I compiled E17, and kept running it every day. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 18:55 +, Fernando Meira wrote: On 8/3/05, Luke Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really understand the problem. I use ~x86 for everything. What I pasted in my previous email works fine for me. I don't really know what engage is, but I tried to run it one time and I dont think it worked, I got some strange black block on the bottom of my screen, so I killed it. engage is a dockbar and E17 module. What I was saying is that you masked the packages as -* (for the cvs version). Masking them with ~x86 would give you the snapshot version. So, following from you script, you masked them as -*. But, I already installed a small set (while emerging engage) masked as ~x86. So I wanted to know if I should just replace ~x86 per -* (and add the remaining packages) or would I need to unmerge the installed packages and redo everything using -* for all packages. This because is not good idea to mix ebuilds from -* and ~x86. Hope it's clear now... Cheers, Fernando I would guess it would be best to redo them with -* so you get everything from CVS -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a TV Box
Tom, This is designed for cell phones and pdas but it might be worth your time to have a look at http://www.rasterman.com/files/eem.avi On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 17:49 +1200, Tom Eastman wrote: Hey Guys, I've got a reasonably stripped down gentoo box (P3-733) with a good video card running in my living room, with the TV as its monitor and a wireless keyboard and mouse. Sounds great so far, doesn't it? But what shall I do with it? It has good TV out capability but no TV in. I have freevo running at the moment, but not MythTV, I'm not really brave enough yet, it seems pretty complicated to set up (I have exactly zero MySQL experience). So, how would you go about getting a good computing experience out of an older computer with a TV output? What do people think would make a nice window manager? It would be kind of cool to get things like web-browsing or email up and running. I'm kind of thinking some kind of non-window based interface would be cool, like what you see on palm devices and such. As well as locking it down to nice big fonts that can be easily read on a TV screen. So what do people think? At the moment its primary function is to grab movies and stuff off of my NFS and play them throught the TV, but I'm sure there is potential for it to be so much more! Inspire me! ;-) Tom -- Luke Albers Electrical Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
