ry removing that overlay. That should fix
> the issue. ;-)
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
>
> P. S. Its been so long, gotta 'man layman' to see how to remove that. :/
I thought mplayer was left behind by its mpv fork, which I&
>
> > FEATURES="${FEATURES} buildpkg binpkg-multi-instance clean-logs
> > compress-build-logs compressdebug installsources parallel-fetch
> > parallel-install split-elog split-log nostrip userfetch usersync"
>
> Looks interesting. What are those things and where are they documented
> ... I looked at global and local USE flags and, e.g. installsources
> wasn't there.
man make.conf
but ... only if you want to change defaults, like adding "noclean".
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On Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:08:28 GMT n952162 wrote:
> On 2020-02-19 22:58, n952162 wrote:
> > On 2020-02-19 22:43, Mick wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, 19 February 2020 19:31:08 GMT n952162 wrote:
> >>> Perhaps coincidentally, that's almost identical to what
lamation mark "!" negating what follows it?
If you are disabling all of them, you'll end up with the default setting, I
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ound out of the speakers:
$ cat /etc/asound.conf
#pcm_slave.slave_rate48000Hz {
#pcm "hw:1,0"
## This is the rate the sound card does.
## Any random input rates are resampled to this.
#rate 48000
#}
#pcm.rate44100Hz {
#type plug
#slave slave_rate48000Hz
#}
defaults.pcm.card 1
defaults.pcm.device 0
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se proxy issue gone wrong at the
server farm or something similar at the time you tried to connect, but yet
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On Sunday, 16 February 2020 23:32:34 GMT Alexey Mishustin wrote:
> Oh! It worked.
>
> What was that?..
Routing.
You can try httping next time to see what hops it follows and where it fails.
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do that
and ... 'man make.conf' explains how you can use various settings to capture
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irefox use some common external print software. I'd
> think the later since both behave the same way. I'm just not sure.
>
> Any ideas or thoughts??
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
I don't have seamonkey to know what it uses, but if it is sharing
On Friday, 14 February 2020 00:32:53 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 00:16:11 +0000, Mick wrote:
> > This came up on an update today:
> > ===
...
> > CMake Error in daemon/CMakeLists.txt:
> > Imported target "KF5::Network
c0/include"
in its INTERFACE_INCLUDE_DIRECTORIES. Possible reasons include:
* The path was deleted, renamed, or moved to another location.
* An install or uninstall procedure did not complete successfully.
* The installation package was faulty and references files it does not
provide.
-- Generating done
-- Build files have been written to: /var/tmp/portage/kde-plasma/
powerdevil-5.17.5/work/powerdevil-5.17.5_build
==
I rebuilt libffi, but the same failure recurred as above. Any ideas?
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On Thursday, 6 February 2020 13:44:22 GMT k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Mick:
> ...
>
> > I don't have these packages on my systems to check, but does 'eselect
> > lapack list' reveal anything amiss?
>
> ...
>
> $ eselect lapack list
> Available LA
check, but does 'eselect lapack
list' reveal anything amiss?
Otherwise the latest sci-libs/lapack is 3.8.0, so your links above look
correct as far as I can tell.
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lfrom="gentoo-user+bounces-189351-
michaelkintzios=gmail@lists.gentoo.org";
dmarc=fail (p=QUARANTINE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=sourceforge.net
but still forwarded following Jack's manual verification.
On Sunday, 2 February 2020 11:27:35 GMT Mick wrote:
> On Satur
ering only email services, others
include website hosting and data storage for the same price.
I also use Google for mailing lists et al. I have been thinking of moving
away from this capitalist surveillance service, whereby the email service is
free, but your data privacy is sold to the highest bidder, while Google keeps
all the margin. Although the concepts of privacy plus Internet are somewhat
orthogonal. I'll eventually get around to it, so please post what you come up
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around for any
relevant major option I need to enable, in order to make the suboption I'm
after to reappear. Kernel changelogs/git may provide a hint. It can be
annoying when you're rushing to get a new kernel to boot correctly, but I
haven't found a cleverer way around it.
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On Thursday, 30 January 2020 09:28:56 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 09:07:00 +0000, Mick wrote:
> > On Thursday, 30 January 2020 05:41:34 GMT Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > > Yesterday afternoon, and for the last ??? years, I could be
> > >
> > >
can't paste with the middle button and navigate to a URL in FF
or Falkon, but I don't know what has caused this. From what I recall Chromium
never worked, while FF always did.
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ert to offer specific advice here. To move on you could try
emerging '-1av dev-perl/Module-Install' as Arve recommends and see where this
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On Sunday, 26 January 2020 23:45:14 GMT james wrote:
> On 1/26/20 3:58 AM, Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday, 26 January 2020 08:36:15 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >> On Sunday, 26 January 2020 05:35:04 GMT Dale wrote:
> >>> james wrote:
> >>>> just a tes
eared here as
> > a new thread.
>
> Not so here. KMail threaded it right.
+1 on Kmail
Regarding the original post, do not forget the incantations:
eselect python list
eselect python update
eselect python cleanup
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On Thursday, 23 January 2020 13:50:59 GMT edes wrote:
> el 2020-01-19 a las 16:49 Mick escribió:
> > You could compare the dmesg output of working and non-working kernels
> > and see what differences are present, then google for bugs/solutions on
> > that basis.
>
>
have been bitten by the same bug themselves.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Crash_Dumps
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/linux-device-drivers/0596005903/ch04.html
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On Friday, 17 January 2020 11:18:22 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Mick and All,
>
> On Saturday, 2019-12-21 12:22:31 +, you wrote:
> > ...
> > A Gentoo user with consolekit and xfce should kindly check their settings
> > and compare with yours to see if something i
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y Mr. Alan Grimes.
The most recent bounced message was yesterday, titled "WTF is up with mysqld?"
> I've read this and still do not know what *I* need to do to fix this, or
> implement a workaround. I use thunderbird-(Installed versions: 68.4.1).
Nothing you need to do. If people do not respond to a message it could well
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On Monday, 13 January 2020 22:40:14 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:15:31 +0000, Mick wrote:
> > According to my emerge --info output I have sandbox, usersandbox and
> > userpriv, all set. The owner of my portage directory and all files
> > therein is r
sts. Try running traceroute with --tcp or --udp instead,
but you may need to run the command as root.
Have a look at this online service to see what a normal traceroute6 response
looks like:
http://www.traceroute6.net/
If you get nowhere check from your PC, try the router. Modern routers
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 17:50:22 GMT Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:24 AM Wols Lists
>
> wrote:
> > On 12/01/20 16:36, Mick wrote:
> > > Hmm ... I can see how Microsoft's move to cloud computing for home
>
> users can
>
> > >
700:1::6813:894b
;; Query time: 41 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Mon Jan 13 16:15:32 GMT 2020
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 180
Traceroute would show at what point Dale's setup fails to route packets. I
don't have an IPv6 router to be able to look into this further, but someone
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On Monday, 13 January 2020 10:42:57 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:17:06 +0000, Mick wrote:
> > Right, I haven't changed them on this installation either and emerge
> > FEATURES include
> >
> > '... userfetch userpriv usersandbox usersync&
On Monday, 13 January 2020 08:34:01 GMT n952162 wrote:
> On 2020-01-13 09:22, Mick wrote:
> >>> Same result. But I didn't delete "the whole portage tree". What does
> >>> that mean?
> >>>
> >>> rm -rf /var/db/repos?
> >>
e:portage,
interestingly in my most recent installation the tree is owned by root as you
can see above and I'm not getting this problem.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/661834
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On Sunday, 12 January 2020 15:02:36 GMT Wols Lists wrote:
> On 12/01/20 13:39, Mick wrote:
> > 2. Obligatory Microsoft Account registration.
> >
> > Every time I touch a MSWindows OS I get more annoyed than the last time.
> > I
> > went through the installati
ng any online
Microsoft credentials.
After I booted into the account I was able to switch off a load of privacy
invading functionality that comes preconfigured with this OS, inc.
geolocation, access to my contacts, photos, calls, etc.
I know a Gentoo installation takes longer, but at the same time I find it
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oke for me. It tries to start, then drops me back into the login
screen. I haven't bothered to troubleshoot it, because the mechanism of
providing me with a GUIfied desktop is less of an interest to me than being
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On Wednesday, 8 January 2020 16:42:14 GMT Wols Lists wrote:
> On 08/01/20 09:26, Mick wrote:
> > The OS Product Key for a Win 7 will not work on a Win 10, unless the free
> > upgrade option had been performed before July 2016. At least it has not
> > worked here ... You&
and £20 and they've all installed no problem
> whatsoever. (Thanks to an EU legal ruling, MS cannot block the sale of
> 2nd-hand licence keys ...)
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slightly different - but I am not familiar with the specifics.
All I recall is MSWindows users screaming late at night all over the
interwebs.
> The
> fingerprint is stored on Microsoft's activation servers somewhere. I don't
> know how it works beyond that it's not required that you have a Microsoft
> account to use it.
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this last part ought to be almost
as fast as updating/installing binary packages on Kubuntu. This is probably
the only way to install really large compiled applications like Chromium,
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k to the old drive and if needed
> will do a new reinstall with the right version. If I can get away with this
> path I will. If not I'll go with something like Mick suggested.
>
> thanks,
> Mark
Partition UUIDs are important if you are restoring Windows from an old
installat
w drive in and connect it to the
candidate laptop, or fit both drives in your desktop and perform the cloning
there. Here's the step-by-step instructions you asked for:
https://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live-doc.php
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On Monday, 6 January 2020 13:53:41 GMT Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:25 AM Mick wrote:
> > If they are used as normal PC drives for regular writing
> > of data, or with back up commands which use rsync, cp, etc. then the disk
> > will fail much sooner tha
e if you're interested in the specifics.
Personally, I would only use such a drive for 'keepers'. Say, films I intend
to write once and watch many times, ripped music albums, family photos, etc.
For OS files and other temporary backups I would use a normal PC drive.
PS.
I don't know if it may be relevant to your problem, but have your run perl-
cleaner since you updated perl?
BTW, the current stable perl version is 5.30.1.
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gt; nudge was helpful.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
I had mentioned about this kernel module in a previous post of mine. It may
make some difference, or it may not. It depends on the drive and its specific
data management mechanism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingled_magnetic_r
in a previous post - have you compiled CONFIG_DM_ZONED
in your kernel to see if its performance changes?
https://zonedstorage.io/linux/config/
It's behaviour may not change whatsoever, if the drive only has an internal
(SMR firmware) data write mechanism. However, if the drive is exposing an I/O
spun by the firmware for
flushing its journal buffers. I have a conventional USB drive (WD passport)
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ho run an overseas support line and will ask you to reboot your
MSWindows PC ... O_o
This is a reason I avoid these kind of routers as much as I can.
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On Tuesday, 31 December 2019 12:42:26 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 31 December 2019 11:04:57 GMT Mick wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 31 December 2019 10:24:48 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > I'm puzzled. Why should a DSL modem be tied to a particular ISP? The
> > &
gt; login/password which pretty much leads me to believe the Frontier won't
> work with AT&T.
Have you checked these instructions to see if you can get it going with AT&T?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=130&v=XISFrTZEJoI
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even
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ervers. I don't know if they still do so.
Contacting AT&T support may get you some info on their default username/passwd
settings. However, I would think if you reset the router successfully without
it being connected to the Internet, you'll be able to login into it with
On Saturday, 28 December 2019 18:14:05 GMT Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > On Saturday, 28 December 2019 15:30:10 GMT Dale wrote:
> >> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 28 December 2019 05:57:16 GMT Dale wrote:
> >>>> Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
D ] semantic-desktop - Cross-KDE support for semantic search and
information retrieval
local use flags (searching: semantic-desktop)
[+ D ] semantic-desktop
media-gfx/digikam: Enable kde-frameworks/kfilemetadata support
[+ ] (5) 6.3.0-r1 [gentoo]
[+ ] (5) 6.4.0 [gentoo]
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between users?
Can it be this entry which is controlling what the right button does?
[ActionPlugins][0]
MidButton;NoModifier=org.kde.paste
RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.applauncher<THIS ONE?
wheel:Vertical;NoModifier=org.kde.switchdesktop
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two
users directories. This would point to files which are probably irrelevant to
your issue, e.g. application files, and consequently leave you with some
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ling
to load "radeon/RV730_pfp.bin". If the hardware wants it, you better provide
it. Then reboot and see if it starts up happily, or reports of more firmware
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IDEO is not set
Also in make.conf I have:
VIDEO_CARDS="radeon r600"
Rebuild your kernel, xorg and mesa, if you change any of the the above,
reboot, check dmesg to make sure your radeon firmware is loading and the
kernel is not reporting any errors on your card, then startx and look at /var/
log/Xorg.0.log to see what is being reported.
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y.
>
> See you later...
I'd start with checking the PSU is providing adequate power, if any at all.
If the MoBo is fried it would be probably a good time to find something to
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le to
parse all these files and their metadata.
Gradually add images to find a number at which the problem occurs and back off
from there. Not a solution, but a workaround.
Another workaround, restructure the fs to have fewer layers, but keep the same
large number of images to see if it proces
On Friday, 20 December 2019 16:14:00 GMT you wrote:
> Mick,
>
> On Friday, 2019-12-20 13:55:29 +, you wrote:
> > ...
> > If you can't run suspend/hibernate it may be polkit policies are not
> > allowing you to run these commands via dbus. However, polkit po
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On Friday, 20 December 2019 13:25:44 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Mick,
>
> On Friday, 2019-12-20 11:46:43 +, you wrote:
> > ...
> >
> >
I
> >
> > don't use this desktop
On Friday, 20 December 2019 11:35:45 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Mick,
>
> On Thursday, 2019-12-19 18:30:47 +, you wrote:
> > ...
> > consolekit will work for this purpose - is it running? It should be in
> > your default runlevel.
>
>$ rc-update show
On Thursday, 19 December 2019 11:08:30 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Mick,
>
> On Wednesday, 2019-12-18 18:10:07 +, you wrote:
> > ...
> > OK, are you running consolekit, or elogind?
>
>$ equery --no-color list -F '$mask2,$location $fullversion:$slot $cp&#
On Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:46:49 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Mick,
>
> On Tuesday, 2019-12-17 23:44:19 +, you wrote:
> > ...
> > And ... usually by the sys-fs/udisks package, which performs the
> > automounting. If for some reason you have uninstalled ud
ith default settings and public/private keys; e.g.
# gpg -c
gpg: directory '/root/.gnupg' created
gpg: keybox '/root/.gnupg/pubring.kbx' created
Given the above the directory and files in /root/.gnupg should be owned by
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ason you have uninstalled udisks, then the desktop environment
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tafile vector image format
+ + xml : Add support for XML files
+ + zlib: Add support for zlib (de)compression
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On Friday, 13 December 2019 15:55:19 GMT Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 2019-12-13 03:17, Mick wrote:
> > I seem to also have a few dangling on an old PC here!
> >
> > $ find -L /etc/runlevels -type l
> > /etc/runlevels/boot/tmpfiles.setup
> > /etc/runlevels/boot/
levels/default/modules-load
/etc/runlevels/default/vixie-cron
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..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7942 Nov 2 09:27 FAQ.bz2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9844 Nov 2 09:27 NEWS.bz2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3167 Nov 2 09:27 README.bz2
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 2 09:27 examples
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I use chronyd which has no problem
synchronising with various NTP servers and is suitable for systems which are
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u said you're running at present, but this commit
was made to handle a similar behaviour:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/10/6/338
> Anybody have any idea what could have become misconfigured?
As per above commit, it could be a matter of a kernel driver bug rather a
misconfiguration
ail around this clash hoping portage would eventually
get it right, I seem to recall a more recent combo. When inkscape-1.0_beta1
is keyworded, portage is asking to also keyword imagemagick-*. I assume
the trunk has a version which works with inkscape-1.0_beta1, but I'm not sure.
For n
point I will be replacing my
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h/config with the
appropriate (rsa) key to use on the 'stupid' server and when you try to
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On Thursday, 28 November 2019 08:50:07 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 09:28:59AM +0000, Mick wrote
>
> > The world is moving towards high speed wireless connectivity anyway,
> > so more and more devices will not need a physical switch port or
> > ethern
oned, merely because I don't know if it will work with
your old router, is to hack the hardware itself. Replacing the flash disk and
RAM with larger components may land you a more capable device for no/little
extra cost. Just use one of the RAM modules you have lying around in your
spares bin and hope the chipset is capable of booting and utilising it. Some
SoCs are crippled by design, having a max RAM capacity they will initialise
hardcoded in their boot code. They may not see or use more RAM and may even
refuse to boot with it. Nevertheless, it could be an interesting project for
a rainy day, on a router which is on its way out anyway:
http://neophob.com/2006/01/wrt54g-ram-upgrade/
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On Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:14:32 GMT Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:58:46 GMT Dale wrote:
> >> I enter my username/password on the modem so I'm pretty sure it is
> >> processing the packets and such. There is no mention of anythi
plugs, where upon my
friend asks for his make and model. Customer replies: "Dunno, it's a blue
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for your
router and modem make and model. However, if these are really old devices,
then their chipsets and RAM may not be adequate to allow them to run dual
network stacks without grinding to a halt. If the OEMs never provided IPv6
capability, for these devices it could well be the case the hardware is not
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y again.
PS. MAKEOPTS="-j1" appears to be quite restrictive for a Ryzen CPU. It
wouldn't cause your problem, but will slow down every emerge as it will
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] ImageMagick-7.0.8-67.tar.xz
[7.9 M ] qpdf-8.2.1.tar.gz
[4.4 M ] util-linux-2.33.tar.xz
===
[ 21.4 M ] Total space from 3 files were freed in the distfiles directory
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On Sunday, 17 November 2019 20:35:33 GMT n952162 wrote:
> On 11/17/19 16:06, Mick wrote:
> > You keep top-posting and inverting the logical Q/A flow of this thread ...
> >
> > On Sunday, 17 November 2019 12:53:51 GMT n952162 wrote:
> >> Ah, now I see. Yes, in that
a backup image is the safest
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trl+Alt+Del would work, I will use ssh to connect remotely and stop the
hanging process or restat the X server. If ssh is also not working, I use the
magic SysReq sequence to stop processes, sync the disks and reboot, or
shutdown. I don't recall losing data in such cases, although when I
will
> start a new instance.
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On Saturday, 16 November 2019 09:34:02 GMT n952162 wrote:
> On 11/13/19 09:55, Mick wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 13 November 2019 06:48:11 GMT n952162 wrote:
> >> I've reinstalled gentoo from the gentoo repository and now my power
> >> button doesn't do a shutd
re...)
>
> Dan
+1, but I can't recall if it was a wireless or wired NIC which did this. I
suspected a changed kernel driver for the device caused the name change, but
I'm not sure.
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h any write caches, drop to the appropriate run level,
remount the fs ro and shutdown the PC. No fsck will then be required. On the
other hand, if the power button shuts down the OS cold, all sort of ill side
effects like lost data can ensue and a fsck will be required.
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si
hat looked
> like they came from shutdown(), but too few (couldn't read them).
>
> Then, on startup, the filesystems needed fscking!!!
Does the same thing happen if you run '/sbin/shutdown -h now' ?
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verse effects so far.
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On Monday, 11 November 2019 13:00:20 GMT Dale wrote:
> Mickaël Bucas wrote:
> > Le lun. 11 nov. 2019 à 09:35, Mick a écrit :
> >> On Monday, 11 November 2019 08:25:06 GMT n952162 wrote:
> >>> I re-installed gentoo from the minimal boot cd (amd64), re-emerged
>
more
functions/services which reminds me of the old emacs joke:
"... emacs is a fine operating system, in need of a good editor"
> But, I don't want to derail the thread entirely...
Sorry, I couldn't resist contributing! :-)
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On Monday, 11 November 2019 08:38:38 GMT you wrote:
> wishoo! ;-)
>
> Thank you.
You're welcome. :-) This page explains the new portage fs locations in more
detail:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Portage/Files
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re's no /usr/portage directory! What did I do wrong?
Nothing.
/usr/portage has now moved to /var/db/repos/gentoo/.
/usr/portage/distfiles has moved to /var/cache/distfiles/
Portage will work fine with both legacy and new fs locations.
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On Sunday, 10 November 2019 13:49:32 GMT Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 10/11/2019 14:51, Mick wrote:
> > Having re-synced portage it now asks me to keyword media-gfx/
> > inkscape-1.0_beta1 and once I do, portage wants to downgrade media-gfx/
> > imagemagick from the
g lcms nls openmp postscript spell -dia -gnome -inkjar -latex -
static-libs -visio -wpg PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7")
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Am I misreading portage's output above?
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