Re: [gentoo-user] System.map not found - unable to check symbols

2006-05-09 Thread Glenn Enright
 System.map not found - unable to check symbols.
 which doesn't seem to cause problems during/after booting (??).

 I did a manual kernel compilation
   
To do this, I always do:
   
make all modules_install install
   
This will do all the necessary steps.
  
   I tried the make all option and it added a /boot - .
   Inside /boot. Also, a menu.lst file was created inside /boot/grub
   that points to grub.conf. Other than that there no changes/additions
   we made.
 
  'make all' is supposed to compile the kernel, 'make modules_install'
  will compile the kernel modules, 'make install' will install the kernel
  and 'make all modules_install install' will do all three of those things.

 I tried multiple times, different ways installing the kernel (vanilla
 sources) and reinstalling grub. Still the same message of System.map
 not found during booting.

   I rebooted and had the same problem occurring:
  
   System.map not found -- unable to check symbols
 
  Could you provide the output of:
 
  # df -h | grep boot
  # ls -l /boot

 Nothing from the previous commands since /boot is not mounted (it is no
 in fstab as suggested by the install handbook)

  # uname -r

 2.6.15.1


Where is the message comming from? do you get it during kernel load or once 
the initscripts with the green stars beside them start doing their thing? I'm 
guessing from the OP that you have x86 hardware?

1) If its the kernel load (easier to check) I suggest the following. As root 
user...
- make sure the boot partition is mounted run 'mount /boot'
- make sure the /usr/src/linux link is pointing to the kernel you want to boot 
from
- cd /usr/src/linux
- run 'make clean' (this will essentially deletes all the compiled stuff 
except for your config file, in other words cleans up the tree :)
- run 'make all modules_install install'
- have a look in /boot to make sure the installer created the appropriate 
link 'System.map' to the version it just installed. use 'ls -l' to see this
- now try a reboot making sure you use  the same kernel you just built 
do you still get the message? If so you may need to alter the kernel config 
and see if that makes any difference, or you might like to try a different 
kernel version.

2) If its happening while the initscripts load, or at some other time after 
kernel boot, then its a gentoo specific issue and you need to work through 
those scripts somehow to isolate the cause.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Windows -Linux Video Chat App

2006-05-06 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sunday 07 May 2006 8:18 am, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Saturday 06 May 2006 15:05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Windows -Linux Video Chat App':
  On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 17:10 +0200, Simon Kellett wrote:
   Netmeeting on Windows should be able to talk to Gnomemeeting on Linux
   (the app does not *have* to be the same, just the protocols and codecs
   etc.)
 
  The keyword here being should

 While I'm sure we'd help you if we could, this is a very general gentoo
 list and not many of us will have even tried to do what you are doing.  I
 think you'd be better served by asking on the netmeeting newsgroups or the
 gnome(meeting)/ekiga support areas (mailing list, newsgroup, IRC, w/e they
 have).

Also check out kopete if you run KDE. it has a plugin for the old netmeeting 
protocol too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources

2006-05-03 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thursday 04 May 2006 7:35 am, S. Schwartz wrote:
 Richard Fish wrote:
  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127618

 Thanks for the link, very interesting indeed.

 In comment #18 someone says that Nvidia won't release a newer legacy
 driver set any time soon, whereas in the nVNews-forum someone from
 NVIDIA Corporation announced that an updated legacy graphics driver is
 planned for the near future. That one should match 1.0-8756.

 Sounds pretty bad and good at the same time. Still: isn't someone of the
 Gentoo-guys (experienced in patching) able to patch the old 6629 for the
 time being or do I simply underestimate the effort?

 Sigi
Nvidia dont release the source for this driver, which makes it difficult for 
others to patch it, even if they new how the card internals worked ;). Does 
the xorg nv driver do what you need?
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Re: [gentoo-user] xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4 not compiling?

2006-05-03 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thursday 04 May 2006 4:40 am, Stephen Cantini wrote:

 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium-m -msse3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe

Dont know much about the app, but does removing -msse3 make any difference?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problems on catherine.espersunited.com

2006-05-01 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 2:47 am, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 The sound stopped working on my wife's computer about a week ago.  I've
 run every test I can think of and can't seem to track the problem
 down.  /etc/init.d/alsasound starts up fine.  I can run alsamixer on her
 computer just fine (on my computer, when ALSA isn't working I can't open
 alsamixer); she has the volume control applet running on her panel, but
 there simply is no sound.  

Its probably a bit off, but do you have a cat? Some get their whiskers in a 
twist about the nice clean continuous line that forms cabling. Check that any 
speaker cables and the plug in back of your comp hasn't been left dangling in 
the wind...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problems on catherine.espersunited.com

2006-05-01 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 8:51 am, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I fixed it.  I feel really stupid about it too.  When I was helping her
 to diagnose the problem, I asked her to open the volume control and make
 sure everything was turned up all the way.  She said it was, and when I
 checked in alsamixer, everything was turned up all the way.  However,
 when I sat down at her computer and opened the volume control applet,
 the PCM was turned all the way down.  I raised the level and now the
 sound works again...

Hey thats good to hear. Hope your wife wasnt to grumpy :). Sometimes its the 
simplest things that are the hardest to figure.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modules autoloading?

2006-04-29 Thread Glenn Enright
On Saturday 29 April 2006 7:39 am, Willie Wong wrote:
 Dear all,

   I performed a massive update on my laptop last night, and started
   observing the following behaviour on boot.

   A message would pop-up saying to the effect that udev is processing
   kernel events and then proceeds to load a bunch of kernel modules
   which I didn't specify for loading in /etc/modules.autoload.d

   In autoload, I only specified 'bcm570x' for my NIC, but after the
   updates, the computer would automatically load the 'ipw2200' module
   for wireless and 'radeon_fb' (which I was playing with for a while
   but have decided not to use).

   Any clue as to where I can turn off this behaviour? I checked the
   config files for udev and /etc/conf.d/rc, and I don't see anything
   obvious.


You could try rebuilding the kernel without those modules... althoug why is 
the kernel loading them anyway if the hardware isnt there
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Re: [gentoo-user] Two things, AC97 sound and Gnome issues!

2006-04-27 Thread Glenn Enright
On Friday 28 April 2006 12:41 am, Christopher E wrote:
 1.  I am have a error message when booting about snd_via82xx not
 found.  FATAL: Module snd_via82xx not found.  is the exact message.

 I have the driver as part of the kernel, when I don't ALSA then gives
 a message like this:
 ALSA device list:
   Sound Card not found

alsasound service normally tries to load all the stuff it detects as modules. 
If you ran alsaconf, then in /etc/modules.d/alsa there will be a line 
aliasing the snd_via82xx module. you can safely remove it, which will get rid 
of the message. Alternatively recompile the kernel with that option as a 
module, and it will load as alsasound expects at boot. 

The gentoo base seems to work better with kernel as modules, and if you change 
your hardware and already have the modules built, simply rerunning alsaconf 
will reconfigure your sound setup appropriately.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayerplug-in problem

2006-04-27 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 24 April 2006 3:30 pm, Glenn Enright wrote:
 Yeah I been through this too.
 I get this error when trying to play movie files, sound file work fine
 (Gecko:17960): Gtk-WARNING **: Can't set a parent on widget which has a
 parent

rebuilding xine-lib seems to have fixed it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayerplug-in problem

2006-04-24 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 24 April 2006 6:37 pm, Colleen Beamer wrote:
 Hi,

 Today, I updated my system.  Among the updates were a kernel update, a
 firefox update and an mplayer update.

 Everything seems to be working fine except that I can't get the mplayer
 plugin to work properly in Firefox.  After updating everything and
 compiling and booting to the new kernel, I rebuilt mplayer so that it
 would include the win32codecs, which it does not do by default.  After
 doing this, I reinstalled the mplayerplug-in.  After doing this, I
 recopied the mplayer.so files to my Firefox plugins directory.  I *did
 not* recompile Firefox after recompiling and booting to the new kernel.
 I've done everything I can think of, but when I try to play a feed from
 CNN or if I just try to play another video file in Firefox, it appears
 that mplayer is loading, but then Stopped is displayed.  And no
 buttons display for stop, start or pause.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks and regards,

 Colleen
Yeah I been through this too. 
I get this error when trying to play movie files, sound file work fine
(Gecko:17960): Gtk-WARNING **: Can't set a parent on widget which has a parent
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[gentoo-user] bindkey

2006-04-24 Thread Glenn Enright
Does anyone know which package supplies this function. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] bash completion

2006-04-24 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 12:24 pm, JimD wrote:

 I also recommend renaming /etc/profile.d/bash-completion to
 /etc/profile.d/bash-completion.sh so it gets picked up by /etc/profile.

Doing that creates an error about /etc/bash_completion.sh not existing
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Re: [gentoo-user] bash completion

2006-04-24 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 12:52 pm, JimD wrote:
 Glenn Enright wrote:
  On Tuesday 25 April 2006 12:24 pm, JimD wrote:
  I also recommend renaming /etc/profile.d/bash-completion to
  /etc/profile.d/bash-completion.sh so it gets picked up by /etc/profile.
 
  Doing that creates an error about /etc/bash_completion.sh not existing

 Really???  Weird.  Here is what I have at the end of /etc/profile

 for sh in /etc/profile.d/*.sh ; do
 if [ -r $sh ] ; then
 . $sh
 fi
 done
Actually I cant replicate it... damn :(

What I'm getting now is bash login hangs until I press ^C. the bash_completion 
file works as expected when run manually.
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Re: [gentoo-user] bash completion

2006-04-24 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 2:49 pm, Glenn Enright wrote:

just added a statement at the end of my profile file to manually 
run /etc/bash-completion and it all seems to work as expected now. Just got 
an issue with csh scripts spitting errors about bindkey not existing and a 
dodgy goto command
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Re: [gentoo-user] What's broken with portage now?

2006-04-23 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 24 April 2006 9:11 am, Mick wrote:

 If I were to delete something it has to be the lot.  Which directory
 am I supposed to rm?

Before you do that try emerge metadata or emerge sync


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Re: [gentoo-user] aRts sound server on KDE 3.5.2?

2006-04-19 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thursday 20 April 2006 8:12 am, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
I got this all the time with ac97 chipset with older versions of arts. Maybee 
you are running a similar chipset? or an old driver or something? what kernel 
version do you run?

From google with search on 'arts cpu overload'
http://www.arts-project.org/doc/handbook/faq.html#id2805932

13.3 What is wrong in the driver if I get the cpu overload problem?

Usually, artsd uses select() to find out when to write new data. Then, it
uses an ioctl(...GETOSPACE...) to find out how much data to write. Finally,
it writes this data.  

A problem occurs if artsd is woken up either always or if there are minimal
amounts of data to write. The OSS documentation specifies that select() only
wakes up a process if there is at least one fragment to write. However, if
artsd is woken up if there isn't data to write, or very little, for instance
one sample, then it will keep writing little pieces of audio data, which can
be very costly, and eventually overload the cpu. 

To fix this, the driver should wake up artsd only if there is a full fragment
to write.  


That page is a little old but it sould give you an idea of where to start.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_NICENESS for real

2006-04-05 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thursday 06 April 2006 11:08, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 wlll, it's not exactly old - it's a 3.0GHz P4 laptop (Inspiron
 9100).  It could be a RAM issue - only 512 Mb.

 But I definately notice it when emerging sources, and then trying to
 switch virtual workspaces when I have, say, firefox  evolution  vmware
 running...  even if emerge is niced.

what are the specs on your HDD? surely seems like the key here. Like Richard 
pointed out, as soon as IO systems become loaded they struggle to keep up 
with demand. Laptops usually have 5400rpm HDD dont they?

 but do you actually do anything to notice this slowdown?  ie. are you
 changing desktops, starting other applications, etc?

absolutely, running openoffice, juk, kate, kmail, firefox and gkrellm atm on 
four desktops amongst others. Emergeing at the same time, Firefox can grind 
on the rendering but otherwise its pretty sweet. BTW I only have 512 MB RAM 
also. 

OT my desktop stystem generates significant heat, often often over 35c in the 
case alone, but laptops can't get away with disipating as much heat so there 
must be tradeoffs somewhere. Actually Im impressed that its still going after 
3 years and the amount of work it does. :)

 thanks for the tips.  I'll check out the ioprio someone else
 mentioned...

Yeah looks keen as :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_NICENESS for real

2006-04-04 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 12:56, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 meetoo!  I've noticed it helps with cpu allocation, but not with the
 disk.  If you're emerging something like sources, or openoffice, portage
 still gets too much disk time and other processes suffer.  nice
 doesn't seem to affect disk access.

This is surely very dependant on you specific hardware and kernel 
configuration. There are some systems that just dont 'multitask' very 
effectively. Also, sounds like you have either an older HDD or your 
motherboard is struggling to keep up with the I/O requirements of compiling. 
Remeber that compiling is non-trivial work for *any* system.

Also check that your kernel is making full use of any features available on 
you system such as SMP or Hyperthreading etc. As a point of comparison, I'm 
running a P4 2.6 on an IS7 motherboard with SATA disks, and only under the 
heaviest compilations, for short periods of time do I notice any slowdowns.

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Re: [gentoo-user] every second rightclick in KDE: the context menu does not stay

2006-04-03 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 09:59, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Monday 03 April 2006 22:22, Benno Schulenberg wrote:

  Anyone else seeing this?  Just to make sure I'm not having a subtly
  broken system.

 yepp, see the same - easy workaround: don't release the right mouse
 button.. as long as you are holding it, the menu will stay.

I'm not getting this at all :), but then just upgraded to 3.5.2. I recall 
something like this a while ago but its gone now. What version of kde are you 
running? 

If you change your theme does it make any difference?

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Re: [gentoo-user] first ebuild, looking for reviewer

2006-04-03 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 12:54, Roy Wright wrote:
 Howdy,

 Writing my first ebuild and would like to have it reviewed.  Is there a
 forum or list or volunteer?

 The ebuild is for CastPodder 4.0 (http://www.castpodder.net/) which has
 an open request in
 bugs.gentoo.org:

   http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114430


 TIA,
 Roy

For staters you can post the ebuild to the bug. If it doesnt work you can 
engage in discussion there with anyone else interested in that app, and 
repost it with fixes etc. 

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only thing that'd work with all these spare parts. We could probably bypass
that easy, we get to the DC line. 

Mal: You tell me right now, little Kaylee, you really think you can do
this? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT every second rightclick in KDE: the context menu does not stay

2006-04-03 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 12:58, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 emm, I don't want to change my theme at the moment (it is
 dekorator+qtcurve), because I am not annoyed or really hit by this. I could
 get his behaviour, bit it does not bother me ;)

Nice :). I had to install XP recently for my wife, but after playing with it 
for a couple of days, ran screaming back to KDE with no reservations! That 
was a real eye opener on how comfortable it is to use and how you adjust to 
expect some features to just exist even in simple applications. Kudos to the 
KDE devs especially.

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[gentoo-user] trouble installing blender

2006-03-29 Thread Glenn Enright
below is a smaple of the results from my attempts to install blender. Anyone 
able to help with why the config portion is bailing? 

The ebuild doesnt fail, but the only things installed are some scripts and the 
desktop icon, nothing seems to be getting actually built. This applies to the 
2.40 and 2.41 versions so must be something missing about my system?


 Unpacking blender-2.40.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/blender-2.40/work
 * Applying blender-2.37-dirs.patch ... 
  
[ ok ]
 Source unpacked.
scons: Reading SConscript files ...
targets =  []
arguments =  {}
/var/tmp/portage/blender-2.40/work/blender-2.40
Creating new config file: config.opts
externs...
bftgl
scons: done reading SConscript files.
scons: Building targets ...
scons: building terminated because of errors.
 * enabling game engine
 * enabling internationalization
Warning:  the --no-print-directory option is not yet implemented
gcc -fPIC -funsigned-char -O2 -c blur.c -I../include
gcc -fPIC -funsigned-char -O2 -c clouds2.c -I../include
ld -Bshareable clouds2.o -o clouds2.so
gcc -fPIC -funsigned-char -O2 -c tiles.c -I../include
ld -Bshareable blur.o -o blur.so
gcc -fPIC -funsigned-char -O2 -c scatter.c -I../include
ld -Bshareable tiles.o -o tiles.so
ld -Bshareable scatter.o -o scatter.so
gcc -fPIC -funsigned-char -O2 -c showzbuf.c -I../include
ld -Bshareable showzbuf.o -o showzbuf.so  -lc
 Test phase [not enabled]: media-gfx/blender-2.40

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Re: [gentoo-user] file limit

2006-03-22 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thursday 23 March 2006 13:50, Bruce Therrien wrote:
 Is there a limit to the files contained in a directory?
 we have over 19,000 in our store graphics directory
 and sometimes cannot acces it because the ftp
 software says it's not a directory.
 It's on an IBM server running gentoo.

More likely its a limit of the ftp server software or the underlying 
filesystem than ftp protocol, although you might anticipate timeouts if the  
transfering of file listings is over a slow connection. Does the ftp server 
have issues with any other storage spaces? Is it just one big directory or 
broken down into heirarchy? if the latter, does any particular part seem to 
be causing issues?
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Re: [gentoo-user] QT 4

2006-03-16 Thread Glenn Enright
On Friday 17 March 2006 08:11, James wrote:
 Hello,

 Has anyone any experiences with developing software with QT4?

 checking whats available, with 'emerge -pv qt', I see:
 x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8

 Nothing else... If I add x11-libs/qt to the package.keywords
 file, I get
 x11-libs/qt-4.1.1

Just out of interest how far along is qt4? Last time I looked the next major 
release of kde *might* be using it, if it becomes stable in time. Is this 
still the case?

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Re: [gentoo-user] dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso

2006-03-14 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 17:50, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
 On 3/15/06, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If I try cp /dev/hdc file.iso I get an error:
  cp: reading /dev/hdc' : Input/output error

 there's a problem with the disk then it's not reading it

the disk is unmounted right?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination

2006-03-13 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 13 March 2006 21:47, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

 Hyper-Transport is a way for CPUs to exchange data directly rather than
 going through a memory controller, thus allowing limited resources (L1/2/3
 cache) to be used more effectively.  In particular, process migration
 causes fewer cache misses.

 Hyper-Threading is a way for a CPU to pretend to be two, thus causing the
 system to request/require more resources than are available.

 Hyper-Transport attempts to alleviate a bottleneck, while Hyper-Threading
 increases the load on an existing one.

I apreciate that AMD certainly seem to have the memory bandwidth/throughput 
thing nailed, and their processors stand tall as a result. but I doubt that a 
p4 would perform near as well without a large part of the enginered 
paralelism that comes as part HThreading, compared to a purely serial system.

I can certainly tell you that compiling (as an example) *wihtout* HT enabled 
on my P4 is a bad idea, takes nearly 4 times as long.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination

2006-03-13 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 00:53, Iain Buchanan wrote:

 conspiracy theory
 there may even be some intentional slowdown when you do a bios / chip
 based disable
 /conspiracy theory

lol

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] annotate html pages

2006-03-07 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wednesday 08 March 2006 02:54, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  while not having investigated it too much, openoffice and other similar
  apps all process web pages... perhaps they can do the work for you?

 Looks like a product called Amaya maybe more directly designed for
 this.
 For anyone interested:  http://www.w3.org/Amaya/

very nice... might have a play with that myself :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] cups and parallel printing

2006-03-02 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thursday 02 March 2006 18:19, Glenn Enright wrote:

Scratch that. got it working finally! seems there was something not quite 
right with the esp driver, and now a new kernel build along with a foomatic 
driver did the trick! Yay!!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia hangs Xorg

2006-03-01 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thursday 02 March 2006 00:37, Jonatan Antoni wrote:
 Hi again,
 Starting up xorg just with 'startx' works fine.. xfce4 comes up. But
 lateron it hangs with nearly 100 percent of cpu-time usage,
 especially if I use the webbrowser firefox.

Use a process viewer to see what is chugging through the usage. It probably 
isnt your xorg configuration, although you might try changing the Modules 
section to this...
Section Module
# This loads some basic X extensions.
Loaddbe   # Double buffer extension
# Some graphics specific modules
Loadextmod# basic graphics subsystem extended 
support
Load glx  # glx support
EndSection

You might like to run revdep-rebuild -p and pay special attention to any 
graphics stuff that is broken. Im also running the same chipset and it goes 
flawlessly with that driver version.

Other posibilities, longshot but worth checking are sound (especially artsd in 
kde), and gtk support (firefox dependancy).

PS you did run 'opengl-update nvidia' right?

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[gentoo-user] cups and parallel printing

2006-03-01 Thread Glenn Enright
I strugglung to get my hp720c printer to work under my latest install.
I have tried many things as follows... 
 * emerged ghostscript, foomatic, pnm2ppd, and cups
 * fiddled with kernel settings re plugnplay related to a bug mentioned ealier 
on the list.

I can print to files in whatever format, and I im leaning towards a fault with 
the kernel or device that is being created. Even sending text to the device 
doesnt work. odd thing is that cups knows what the printer is and where it 
is. It just wont print anything.

The printer does work, I had it going under an older knoppix build 3.??. So 
that must mean all the hardware is fine too. Starting to pull my hair out 
here after no printer for several weeks. Can anyone help? Pretty please?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox OOo oddness

2006-02-25 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sunday 26 February 2006 01:55, Peter Ruskin wrote:

 See
 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=384087highlight=filepicker+kde

nice site. opens up a few posibilities too. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] got lprng?

2006-02-21 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 20 February 2006 14:36, Manuel A. McLure wrote:
 On Sunday 19 February 2006 05:47 pm, Glenn Enright wrote:
  after modprobe lp
  lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
 
  after cat textfile...
  lp0: ECP mode

 Some googling brought up this:

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-416986-highlight-.html

 Apparently there are problems with recent kernels and the printer port.
 Apparently ACPI Plug and Play support breaks it. Try the kernel settings in
 that forum post and see if that fixes it.

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ok thanks for that lead. will check it out tonight :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox java plugin

2006-02-19 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 20 February 2006 08:39, Antoine wrote:
 Hi,
 I can't seem to find out how to get java working again in firefox (1.5).
 I am running blackdown (std, 1.4.2) and I simply don't get java with
 most sites now. Is it possible that I need to update to sun's 1.5?
 Cheers
 Antoine
the blakcdown version is a little dated now, but should still work with most 
sites. You may need to add a link to the java plugin in you firefix 
configuration directory (either in home or systemwide)

eg link /opt/java-jre-version/plugin/i386/plugin name
 to ~/.mozilla/plugins/plugin name

easy to drop in custom plugins there too :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] got lprng?

2006-02-19 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 20 February 2006 11:29, Manuel A. McLure wrote:
 /bin/echo -e -n Hello\\015\\012World\\015\\012\\014 textfile.txt

I am having similar difficulty getting my hp720c working. After trying the 
test you suggested, I still got just nothing on the printer. I have both 
parport, parport_pc, and lp modules loaded, which gives me the lp0 device. 
any suggestions?

# ll lp0
crwxrwxrw-  1 root lp 6, 0 Feb 20 14:08 lp0

PS the printer does work in knoppix. Does this seem like probably a kernel 
issue?

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox java plugin

2006-02-19 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 20 February 2006 13:49, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 14:02 +1300, Glenn Enright wrote:
  the blakcdown version is a little dated now, but should still work with
  most sites.

 what jre would you recommend?
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Im am using the one from sun atm, nut thats only cause its was recomended in 
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Re: [gentoo-user] got lprng?

2006-02-19 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 20 February 2006 13:54, Manuel A. McLure wrote:
 On Sunday 19 February 2006 05:14 pm, Glenn Enright wrote:
  On Monday 20 February 2006 11:29, Manuel A. McLure wrote:
   /bin/echo -e -n Hello\\015\\012World\\015\\012\\014 textfile.txt
 
  I am having similar difficulty getting my hp720c working. After trying
  the test you suggested, I still got just nothing on the printer. I have
  both parport, parport_pc, and lp modules loaded, which gives me the lp0
  device. any suggestions?
 
  # ll lp0
  crwxrwxrw-  1 root lp 6, 0 Feb 20 14:08 lp0
 
  PS the printer does work in knoppix. Does this seem like probably a
  kernel issue?

 Possibly - try running dmesg after the cat textfile.txt /dev/lp0 and
 see if anything shows in the kernel logs.

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after modprobe lp
lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).

after cat textfile...
lp0: ECP mode

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Re: [gentoo-user] gthumb 2.6.8 doesn't save images anymore

2006-01-22 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 23 January 2006 02:47, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hello!

 Since a few days, gthumb doesn't save changed images anymore. When I
 try to save an image as jpeg, it creates a 0 byte file. When I try to
 save a PNG, it does the same and, as a bonus :), it crashes.

 A while back, this used to work.

 I also tried to recompile gthumb - didn't help... :(
Sounds like some of the dependancies of gthumb may have changed on your 
system. 

You can figure out the dependencies with ldd
eg; #ldd /sbin/udev
linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7dd)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f07000)

Are any of the files you get related to packages you updated/downgrades 
recently? are they made available in /etc/portage/package.* which might 
indicate using unstable builds?

Just some ideas. not to sure otherwise
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thursday 19 January 2006 05:41, Willie Wong wrote:
 Hum, is there a place in Mozilla to set your name/alias that goes in
 the From field for an e-mail? Can you double check that to see if
 you made a typo in the e-mail address or something? Sometimes ISPs
 reject mails sent to be relayed by their servers that neither
 originate nor end on their servers.


Some ISPs may also require your alias to be a specific thing, eg your real 
name, or the same as your email address. Silly but true.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 16 January 2006 04:28, Stroller wrote:
 It does indeed seem very good, but again it requires training, which
 is something I'm trying to avoid in this instance.

 Stroller.

No solution you have is going to be perfect I suspect. Really it does come 
down to individual requirements, because everyone is different. It is much 
easier to offer a full filter service to clients, then If they want it turn 
it on - just like many ISPs do - they can. So 'training' is minimised to 
maybee a simple FAQ and users can take care of the rest. Course this is not 
useful if your site is getting hammered by spam :(

Otherwise, for example with spamassasin, each client can set up their own 
account with some effective filters for their own type of email. I'm using 
kmail with my own account and that has a very useful wizard that creates a 
seperate folder for spam, learns and dumps any that I manually mark as spam, 
and moves it all to that folser, where I can easily review it.

Also I use another module called mail-filter/dcc that seems to help greatly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 16 January 2006 06:01, Stroller wrote:
 I'm looking at dcc now - it looks useful, but I'm not yet clear on
 how to configure it (with SpamAssassin?).

perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DCC

in the file /etc/spamassassin/init.pre
add this line
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DCC

and configure /etc/dcc/dcc.conf as required

Be aware that some plugins use a lot of system resources, tho temporarily. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Regular user can't offload usb camera`

2005-12-29 Thread Glenn Enright
On Friday 30 December 2005 06:43, Gerhard Hoogterp wrote:
 I had something alike and found that the hotplug script was looking
 for /var/run/console/console.lock to see who owned the console (and to use
 this info to chown the usbfile)

 You can easily check if you have the same problem: disconnect the camera,
 become root on the commandline and use

   cat loginname  /var/run/console/console.lock

 (so if you're logged in as michael use
   cat michael  /var/run/console/console.lock
 )

 Plug in the camera and try to download the photo's. If it now works, you
 have the same problem which I had (and which has to do I think with
 pam_console which is a flag for emerging pam)

 Anyhow, as I got bored to create the lockfile every time I just fixed
 the /etc/hotplug/usb/usbcam to use my name whenever it couldn't find a lock
 file.. Somewhat ugly, but oh well..

 Hope this helps..
   Gerhard

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This link may be helpful to those still looking at this...
http://www.gphoto.org/doc/manual/permissions-usb.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Regular user can't offload usb camera`

2005-12-29 Thread Glenn Enright
On Friday 30 December 2005 06:43, Gerhard Hoogterp wrote:
Interesting I can get it to work the first time it is connected. But after 
disconnetcting or turning off the camera (a Kodak cx7330)  it doesnt work 
anymore. Neither as root or as user. 
It looks liek every time I reconnect a usb device the device number gets 
incremented by one for some reason?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Regular user can't offload usb camera`

2005-12-29 Thread Glenn Enright
On Friday 30 December 2005 16:09, Glenn Enright wrote:
 On Friday 30 December 2005 06:43, Gerhard Hoogterp wrote:
 Interesting I can get it to work the first time it is connected. But after
 disconnetcting or turning off the camera (a Kodak cx7330)  it doesnt work
 anymore. Neither as root or as user.
 It looks liek every time I reconnect a usb device the device number gets
 incremented by one for some reason?

Ok looks like I can but have to update the device in the software Im using 
bcause it doesnt detect the usb port change (digikam broken?)

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub,sata,savedefault and error 27

2005-12-28 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 10:15, capsel wrote:
 Have you read info grub ??
 fallback should be on top and it is, savedefault fallback can be in
 title section and means that I want to save as a default fallback
 which in my case is 0.

 I think it should be EOT for now... I've checked if savedefault works
 from command line of /sbin/grub on different machine (@home) and it
 doesn't, but it works in config file.

My bad. Furthur reading did prove enlightening. A thousand apologies...
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Re: [gentoo-user] world problems

2005-12-27 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 07:28, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 12/25/05, Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here's my list of what it want to take
  out of the world file -
 
  'app-emulation/crossover-office-bin' has no ebuilds available
  'games-fps/unreal-tournament-bonuspacks' has no ebuilds available
  'media-libs/epeg' has no ebuilds available
  'media-fonts/acroread-asianfonts' has no ebuilds available
  'sci-astronomy/setiathome' has no ebuilds available
  'media-tv/xawdecode' has no ebuilds available
  'games-fps/unreal-tournament-goty' has no ebuilds available

 You have something really wrong here.  Do these ebuilds actually
 exist?  For example, does ls
 /usr/portage/app-emulation/crossover-office-bin/*.ebuild show any
 items?

 -Richard

I also have sveral surprises after an upgrade to portage. 
otherland2 ~ # emaint --check world
Checking world for problems

'x11-themes/noia-warm' has no ebuilds available
'x11-misc/transset' has no ebuilds available
'dev-perl/Data-Dumper' has no ebuilds available
'app-crypt/gpg-agent' has no ebuilds available
'media-libs/divx4linux' has no ebuilds available
'media-video/avifile' has no ebuilds available
'pdev-java/jakarta-regexp' has no ebuilds available
'app-vim/vimspell' has no ebuilds available
'media-sound/pmidi' has no ebuilds available
'x11-wm/xfce' has no ebuilds available
'xfce-extra/xffm-icons' has no ebuilds available
'app-admin/conky' has no ebuilds available


Finished
otherland2 ~ # ls /usr/portage/app-admin/conky/
ChangeLog  conky-1.3.1.ebuild  conky-1.3.4-r1.ebuild  files
Manifest   conky-1.3.3.ebuild  conky-1.3.4-r2.ebuild  metadata.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub,sata,savedefault and error 27

2005-12-27 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 08:13, capsel wrote:
 2005/12/27, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On 12/27/05, capsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   title gentoo
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /bzImage root=/dev/sdb2
 savedefault fallback

that last line does nothing in the configuration file. fall back is meant to 
be used as a top level config command with a entry number coresponding to 
your menu entry of choice. eg fallback 2 when your second entry is for 
memcheck or windows, etc. savedefault is meant to be used at the grub command 
line, not in the config file. enter grub and type 'help savedefault' for more 
info.

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[gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!

2005-12-23 Thread Glenn Enright
To all you good people who make up the gentoo community. Its a privelige to be 
a member of such a lively and creative forum. Cheers to you all.

Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas!
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Re: [gentoo-user] RFC about kooka block

2005-12-19 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 11:50, Francesco Talamona wrote:
 Isn't it a bit strange? Shouldn't be kooka blocked, as it is already
 installed?
 Ok, kde il slotted, but... Maybe I miss something about split
 ebuilds :-)

 Is this a bug? Any comments?

 Ciao
   Francesco

You do seem to be confusing monlithic kde builds with split ones. From 3.5, 
superkaramba is built with kdeutils so you can either keep the installed 
version, and install the kdeutils *compenents* seperately, or uninstall it 
and build the whole of *kdeutils* in one go. 

As far as kooka is concerned, you obviously haven't yet unmasked the 3.5 
version.
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[gentoo-user] opengl brightness setting

2005-12-16 Thread Glenn Enright
Does anyone know if there is somewhere I can configure opengl settings? All my 
opengl applications are extremely dark and I have to chnage setings just for 
those apps. 

For example mplayer runs most reliably on my system with opengl except I am 
constantly having to adjust the brightness/contrast. Same with Unreal 
Tournament. Window or fullscreen make no diference its the rendering as far 
as I can tell. 

nvidia-settings has an option to adjust xv overlays and some other nifty 
things but not those options. Any suggestions welcome.
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[gentoo-user] hal emerge conflict

2005-12-15 Thread Glenn Enright
I installed kde3.5 which is great, but to do soI had to unmask some packages, 
including hal. So I have version 0.5.5.1 installed.

Unfortunately I also have gnome-light installed, which requires hal-0.4 for 
gnome-vfs. Any ideas on how I might solve this conflict. I dont really need 
gnome, but it has been drawn in by OOffice and has several other dependencies 
that I use such as firefox. In addition this is despite having -gnome in my 
use flags. Help!

TIA

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Re: [gentoo-user] hal emerge conflict [SOLVED]

2005-12-15 Thread Glenn Enright
On Friday 16 December 2005 10:24, Richard Fish wrote:
 Since you do not use gnome, you probably don't care whether gnome-vfs
 supports hal or not:

 echo gnome-base/gnome-vfs -hal /etc/portage/package.use

 -Richard

Of course! :) Simple elegant fix. Thanks for your insight.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] moving mountpoint to folder

2005-12-13 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 09:33, michael higgins wrote:
 So, my question is, does anyone know what will happen if I try to umount
 -l, remove the /usr/lib mountpoint, and rename /usr/lib2 to /usr/lib? It
 would seem that there'd be no problem as long as I don't need to log into a
 new shell? Going the other way wasn't a problem, as I just renamed the old
 folder and mounted the partition on a new one.

 Any suggestions appreciated.

If you are willing to take the system down for a few minutes, try booting with 
a copy of knopix or your gentoo livecd, and doing your filesystem mods that 
way. Then you can be more comfortable with the sanity of your os. after all 
there is so much important stuff in there.

Or maybee drop to single user mode, that may work.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Notification of Limited Account Access (Routing Code: C840-L1111-Q110-1113)

2005-12-13 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 17:23, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I tried to notify the real Paypal that someone was posing at them, but
 they didn't even have an abuse address...

send it to spoof at paypal dot com
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerged older KDE, revdep-rebuild fails (no ebuild)

2005-12-12 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 12 December 2005 20:11, Maxime Robert-Schreyers wrote:
 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:17:29 +0100, Maxime Robert-Schreyers wrote:
 I've emerged KDE 3.5 last week (unmasking it in
 /etc/portage/package.unmask and /etc/portage/package.keywords)
 I had no trouble at all, but noticed 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 were still there,
 so I tried to clean those. I did
 
 equery list -p kde | grep 3.3 | xargs emerge unmerge -p
 
 It worked fine too, but then I tried revdep-rebuild -- -p and it tries
 to re-emerge kde-base/kdebase-3.2.3-r1 and
 mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.2 but doesn't find ebuilds for them.
 Furthermore, I don't want to have kdebase-3.2 reinstalled.
 
 Something you still have installed depends on kdebase-3.2.
 Run emerge -utvD world to see what it is and either unmerge it or
 re-emerge it.

 Thanls for the reply. here's the output:

 nonpoint ~ # emerge -utvDa world

 These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [nomerge  ] media-video/dvdrip-0.52.0  +cdr -gnome
 [nomerge  ]  media-video/vcdimager-0.7.21  -minimal +xml2
 [ebuild U ]   dev-libs/libcdio-0.75-r1 [0.73] -cddb -minimal 1,768 kB
 [nomerge  ] app-portage/eix-0.3.0-r2  +bash-completion
 [ebuild  N]  app-shells/bash-completion-config-0.8-r2  106 kB

 It doesn't show anything about kdebase :-/

 Am i missing some cleaning step before revdep or the re-emerge ?

 Maxime

try the same coomand without the -u ie;
emerge -Davt world

should show quite a few results
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Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size

2005-12-05 Thread Glenn Enright
snip
look in /var/log/portage if you have it enabled higer log files will br for 
more recent emerges
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Re: [gentoo-user] kdm will not start

2005-12-03 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sunday 04 December 2005 17:27, Joseph wrote:

 Now, I'm fighting with kpdf, as it tries to print on A4 instead of
 letter format.

In the kde Control Center, go to 
Reigonal Accesibility - Country/Reigon Layout
select the tab Misc
Choose the paper format you prefer. Be aware this is the default setting for 
kde and not just kpdf.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kdm will not start

2005-12-03 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sunday 04 December 2005 19:07, Joseph wrote:
  In the kde Control Center, go to
  Reigonal Accesibility - Country/Reigon Layout
  select the tab Misc
  Choose the paper format you prefer. Be aware this is the default setting
  for kde and not just kpdf.

 I have it letter in there.
 Though, I'm thinking that it must have something to do with the way xpdf
 is compiled.  The variable psPaperSize match is not compiled and/or
 correctly compiled to xpdf.

What format (ps, pdf, etc) are the files you are trying to print in?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - GIMP question

2005-12-02 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 18:14, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 It works great in Linux using Mozilla, but
 when my wife tries to view the page in Internet Explorer the image
 appears with a white background.  What's going wrong here?  Any ideas?

Probably MS doesnt support png in IE? PNG is an opensource format...

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub on a SATA drive

2005-11-29 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:45, Heinz Sporn wrote:
snip
  When I boot w/ the grub floppy I do:
 
  grub root (hd0,1)
Fs is ext2, part type 0x83
  grub kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6
[Linux-bzImage, setup=0x120, size 0x1463b31]
snip
  ...VFS: Cannot open root device sda6 or unknown
  block (0,0)
  Please append correct root boot option
  Kernel Panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs
  on unknown block (0,0)

In your /boot dir there should be a symlink called /boot which is linked 
to /boot! So when you have a seperate partition for your /boot area, 
using /boot/vmlinuz will stay valid through the entire boot process. So then 
your second line can read...

kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda? ...
^^^

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Re: [gentoo-user] How does Portage prioritze emerges in emerge world?

2005-11-26 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 06:47, Holly Bostick wrote:
 1) disable the symlink USE flag and manage the redirect manually, which
 would enable me to download any kernel at any time without concern for
 whether a kernel module was upgrading in the same operation; or
snip
 I guess I'll go for option 1, but the long and the short of it is that
 complete automation is unavailable and my only choice is what I prefer
 to manage manually.

 OK, then. sigh Thanks.

 Holly

Yeah it would be nice if there was a system to manage this, but your solution 
works for me too and its relatively easy to remember what you need to fix 
when you do a kernel upgrade. I get the feeling that automating this sort of 
thing is non-trivial. Besides... are we gentoo users or what?! ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub on a SATA drive

2005-11-24 Thread Glenn Enright
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:31, maxim wexler wrote:

 I note grub doesn't like root(sd0,1), returns Error
 23: Error while parsing number.

 But what do I call it? hd0 and hd1 are taken.

 -mw

Just to make sure, remember that grub has to be installed in the boot sector 
of your drive and it needs a built in reference so it can find the config 
file and stage2-*s. Assuming you followed the install guides on gentoo.org 
you would have looked through the following
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.0/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=10#doc_chap2

Also consider that grub doesn't understand sda or hda terminology, only 
numbers. The stuff on the kernel line is for the kernel to pick up and use in 
conjunction with your /etc/fstab file
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Re: [gentoo-user] Return of My Continuing ALSA woes

2005-11-23 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:24, Harold Naparst wrote:
snip
 and then:

 /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
  * WARNING:  you are stopping a boot service.
  * Storing ALSA Mixer Levels ...
 /usr/sbin/alsactl: get_control:149: Cannot read control info '2,0,0,Front
 Playback Volume,0': Invalid argument   [ !! ] * Unloading ALSA
 ...

Looks like the saved mixer settings are corrupt. Find where they live, 
(/etc/asound.state?) delete or move them, and then load again. Should 
recreate the default mixer data and then you can play with the volumes to get 
them set up again.
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Re: [gentoo-user] use of /usr/src/linux symlink

2005-11-09 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:54, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Secondly, you're *using* 2.6.14, and you're keeping 2.6.12 around as a
 fallback. It's very unlikely you're going to actually boot into 2.6.9,
 and while you may boot into 2.6.12, you are not in fact doing so
 (because 2.6.14 is working OK).

 So what is the need for this symlink redirection?

For my part I'm playing round with the kernel source in several custom 
versions and rebooting often when testing for some things. Doing that several 
times in an hour, re-making the simlink manually can be tedious. So it just 
takes some of the drudgery out of manually performing this every time. And 
you know that when you boot the kernel source is in a sane state even if you 
forgot that you had booted back into your stable kernel and for example there 
is a new nvidia version available.

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Re: [gentoo-user] use of /usr/src/linux symlink

2005-11-09 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:37, Robert Crawford wrote:
 I guess it depends on how much updating and compiling you do as too how
 aggrevating this would become, but since it's no big deal to change it, I'd
 recommend doing it as a matter of course, so you don't have to stop and do
 it during an emerge session.

 Robert Crawford

Exactly. Well said. On that note I don't think it needs to be something for 
the gentoo init scripts to implement, its more a handy thing for users to 
implement if they wish to, making their day easier :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with partition reiserfs

2005-11-05 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 19:29, Rafael Barreto wrote:
 I'm with a very strange problem with a partition reiserfs. When I installed
 gentoo I created a partition to save my personal docs and I formatted it
 with reiserfs filesystem. Today, I was wrinting a little program in python
 using Kate and, accidentaly, I overwrite a file on that partition. The
 strange was that Kate don't ask me for a confirmation about that. Kate just
 overwrote the file. Well, I imagined that comportament was not right and I
 tried to ovewrite an archive in the partition mounted under /home and Kate,
 now, ask me for a confirmation. Strange... any idea?

Are you sure you were working as the same user? not as root or something? 
Could have been different user settings.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device hde4 or uknown-block(0,0)

2005-11-04 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 19:59, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 08:54:56PM -0800, Bill Six wrote:
  VFS: Cannot open root device hde4 or
  uknown-block(0,0)
  Please append a correct root= boot option
  Kernel panic..
  It's a 120 Gig harddrive
  /dev/hde1 is 20 Gigs, for Windows
  /dev/hde2 is 32 Megs, for /boot
  /dev/hde3 is 512 Megs, for swap
  /dev/hde4 is the rest of the harddrive, for /
 
  Any ideas?

 what do you have in grub.conf?

That looks like the right idea to me too. root(0,0) is not what should be in 
your boot loader.
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Re: [gentoo-user] wiping unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Glenn Enright
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:33, Mike Williams wrote:
 On Sunday 30 October 2005 09:08, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  With the right hardware, forensics are *far* beyond this.

 The NSA *crush* old hardware.
 You ever seen a car crushed? Complete car, engine, drive train, interior,
 wheels, everything, crushed into a cube less than a meter cubed. I'd use
 one of them, and crush lots in one go. Or melt it down.

 --
 Mike Williams

Lol better safe than sorry right. All I can say is anyone who designs stuff to 
do this sort of recovery has my respect. Just looking at a few of the OSS 
tools available, such as found on 
http://www.linux-forensics.com/
and http://www.forensiclug.com/

A LOT of man hours in such work!
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Re: [gentoo-user] wiping unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-30 Thread Glenn Enright
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:57, Glenn Enright wrote:
 On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:33, Mike Williams wrote:
  On Sunday 30 October 2005 09:08, Uwe Thiem wrote:
   With the right hardware, forensics are *far* beyond this.
 
  The NSA *crush* old hardware.
  You ever seen a car crushed? Complete car, engine, drive train, interior,
  wheels, everything, crushed into a cube less than a meter cubed. I'd use
  one of them, and crush lots in one go. Or melt it down.
 
  --
  Mike Williams

 Lol better safe than sorry right. All I can say is anyone who designs stuff
 to do this sort of recovery has my respect. Just looking at a few of the
 OSS tools available, such as found on
   http://www.linux-forensics.com/
 and   http://www.forensiclug.com/

 A LOT of man hours in such work!
*cough* people-hours ;p. Scuse me

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Re: [gentoo-user] wiping unused space and/or secure erasing of files

2005-10-29 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:42, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 app-misc/secure-delete

   Description: Secure file/disk/swap/memory erasure utilities


Just out of interest, I understand ext3 is pretty good at eliminating old data 
during delete, because the data structure is so abstract? So in this case a 
simple rm and poof files gone? Or are forensics beyond this now?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Agetty

2005-10-24 Thread Glenn Enright
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:27, Daniel Faulknor wrote:
 Hi everyone
 After my kernel loads i get the message
 INIT: cannot execute /sbin/agetty
 INIT: cannot execute /sbin/agetty
 INIT: cannot execute /sbin/agetty
 INIT: cannot execute /sbin/agetty
 INIT: cannot execute /sbin/agetty
 INIT: cannot execute /sbin/agetty
 INIT: cannot execute /sbin/agetty
 INIT: Id c2 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
 INIT: Id c3 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
 INIT: Id c4 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
 INIT: Id c5 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
 INIT: Id c6 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
  INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel

 Then the computer just stops - HELP!

 Thanks
 Daniel Faulknor
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you are missing the agetty application that is described in your /etc/inittab 
file. agetty belongs to sys-apps/util-linux, which you could reemerge by 
using your livecd and doing the chroot thing like when you installed. either 
that or you are playing with a new kernel, and forgot to compile support for 
the filesystem which /sbin is on. 

Consider that init calls inittab as soon as the kernel is up, so if it stops, 
you will probably only see a few lines from the kernel on screen and not much 
else... is this what you are experiencing?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Agetty

2005-10-24 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:48, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
  either that or you are playing with a new kernel, and forgot
  to compile support for the filesystem which /sbin is on.

 If this was the case, how could init be executed, or even read inittab?

it is possibly on a separate partition.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Agetty

2005-10-24 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 05:30, Glenn Enright wrote:
 On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:48, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
   either that or you are playing with a new kernel, and forgot
   to compile support for the filesystem which /sbin is on.
 
  If this was the case, how could init be executed, or even read inittab?

scuse not enough coffee in the veins :(. you are correct
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Re: [gentoo-user] Agetty

2005-10-24 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:59, Daniel Faulknor wrote:
 On 10/24/05, Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:27, Daniel Faulknor wrote:
   Hi everyone
   After my kernel loads i get the message
   INIT: cannot execute /sbin/agetty
   INIT: Id c2 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
   INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
  
   Then the computer just stops - HELP!
  
   Thanks
   Daniel Faulknor
   --

 I emerged it but it didnt help - i just restarted the computer and it didnt
 work - i hadnt done anything to it. It used to work


A post on the gentoo forums mentions that having the user option on your /boot 
and / partitions may break the boot cycle. could you try removing that if its 
there? Otherwise mabee post /etc/fstab here? The link to the forums is

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-204427-highlight-agetty.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] power loss when emerging

2005-10-19 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:38, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
 Hi all, I had a doubt, I got a power loss when emerging gcc
 it was almost at final, when I do a emerge --resume, it beguns all
 over again so my doubt is if there a way to continue compilation
 from where it stops.

 thanks, Allan

Yeah thats the way portage and emerge works. I'm guessing that the devs 
decided it was the only safe way to guarantee a sane build, rather than 
trying to restart the process half way through.

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Re: [gentoo-user] low-level formatting a harddrive

2005-10-18 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:40, maxim wexler wrote:

 I used fdisk and mkdosfs to format the first half
 fat32 but it makes no difference.


Did your problems start when you tried to remove windows? Or was the disk just 
plain flakey to begin with?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying Plugin pop-up, Firefox and Epiphany

2005-10-18 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:39, Dave Cameron wrote:
 Hi All,

 I'm running Gentoo on a SunBlade 100 SPARC machine, and so can't install
 Sun Java or Macromedia crap. Does anyone know how/if you can disable
 the plugin popup on Epiphany and Firefox, it's really frustrating to
 have these constant nags, especially(sic)  since I can't install these
 binary-only plugins, both because of my social conscience, and because
 of my platform, I would much appreciate it if someone knew.

For firefox, first try going to Menu View --Preferences-- Web Features, and 
disabling (unchecking) java, javascript and maybee installing software. Close 
ALL firefox windows and restart to take effect, then test. 

If this doesnt fix, try typing about:config in URL bar and browse through the 
many possible settings. Google may be able to help with those.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting $TERM in Konsole (and others)

2005-10-16 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:57, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 I couldn't find it either. What bothers me is that in a Konsole, there's
 a Settings - Configure Konsole - Session - $TERM
 setting that looks like it should override anything X does. I would
 expect that Konsole would be started, change the TERM environment
 and start the indicated shell. This isn't happening.

 I guess it's time to look in a bugs database for KDE.

 ++ kevin

 On 10/15/05, Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:06, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
   I run Konsole for shell sessions, and things are going slightly wrong.
   I've tracked it down to the fact that although I've set the Konsole
   preferences to $TERM=linux, that variable is obdurately xterm.
  
   When I put an echo in .bashrc or .bash_profile, it's already xterm.
   How can I find the culprit?
  
   ++ kevin
 
  You'll find if you log into a text console (ALT F1, F2 etc), $TERM should
  be
  linux. However konsole and others in 'X' are set to xterm so something is
  being set as X loads. I couldn't find xterm in any of the /etc/env.d
  files,
  so its not being picked up there anyhow.
 

Did a little more investigating. When I load a konsole I have a tab down the 
bottom for each session. To get another session I can click on the icon next 
to the tabs. If I hold the mouse buttion over this session, I get a list 
which includes a 'Linux session'. This should have the $TERM variable set 
correctly for you. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: CPU Temperature

2005-10-15 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:57, Jamie Dobbs wrote:
 I built myself an AMD64 based system a week ago using the following
 components:

 Albatron K8NF4U motherboard
 AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Socket 939)
 1GB DDR Memory
 Albatron TC6200 video card

 Motherboard sensors indicate that the CPU core is running at a constant
 65 degrees Celcius and this figure does not change more than a degree
 no matter what is being done, it only increased to 66 degrees C while
 doing a compile of xorg, kde and gnome which took a few hours.

 Should I be worried about these figures? The heatsink feels only
 slightly warm to the touch and I am sure it is seated correctly so I
 wonder if the BIOS is reporting the right temperatures. Does anyone have
 the same board that can help me out here?

 Can anyone point me in the right direction to find out what the
 acceptable temperature range for my CPU is?

 Cheers

 Jamie

I'm not an expert on AMD chips but that does seem quite high. With intensive 
compiles I would expect to see the temp raising about 20 degrees or so, 
depending on your fan and sink. How are you monitoring the temp? 
through /proc/acpi/thermal? or just from the bios? Or are you lucky enough to 
have a readout on your box?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting $TERM in Konsole (and others)

2005-10-15 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:06, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 I run Konsole for shell sessions, and things are going slightly wrong.
 I've tracked it down to the fact that although I've set the Konsole
 preferences to $TERM=linux, that variable is obdurately xterm.

 When I put an echo in .bashrc or .bash_profile, it's already xterm.
 How can I find the culprit?

 ++ kevin

You'll find if you log into a text console (ALT F1, F2 etc), $TERM should be 
linux. However konsole and others in 'X' are set to xterm so something is 
being set as X loads. I couldn't find xterm in any of the /etc/env.d files, 
so its not being picked up there anyhow.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version [New Thread]

2005-10-06 Thread Glenn Enright
Try this...

ls -l /usr/src/linux
uname -r

these should give you the same version. If not you need to adjust the linux 
symlink to reflect the kernel version you are running. Then

cd /usr/src/linux
cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./
make oldconfig  make

Now you should be able to do the emerges you wanted to. The point is to have 
your source tree in working condition, and findable, as opposed to clean.

If you run different kernel versions often, try adding a few lines 
to /etc/conf.d/ like

# -- quick hack to ease work of updating kernels and make emerges consistent
#
ebegin Refreshing kernel source link to running kernel.
rm -f /usr/src/linux
if ! ln -s /usr/src/linux-$(uname -r) /usr/src/linux
then
ewarnBugger ... could not update. Please manually create the
ewarnsymbolic link '/usr/src/linux' to the running kernel 
source.
ewend 1
fi
# --

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version [New Thread]

2005-10-06 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 06:42, Glenn Enright wrote:
 Try this...

   ls -l /usr/src/linux
   uname -r

 these should give you the same version. If not you need to adjust the linux
 symlink to reflect the kernel version you are running. Then

   cd /usr/src/linux
   cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./
   make oldconfig  make

 Now you should be able to do the emerges you wanted to. The point is to
 have your source tree in working condition, and findable, as opposed to
 clean.

 If you run different kernel versions often, try adding a few lines
 to /etc/conf.d/ like
scuse :-o  ^^^-- /etc/conf.d/local.start


 # -- quick hack to ease work of updating kernels and make emerges
 consistent #
 ebegin Refreshing kernel source link to running kernel.
 rm -f /usr/src/linux
 if ! ln -s /usr/src/linux-$(uname -r) /usr/src/linux
 then
 ewarnBugger ... could not update. Please manually create the
 ewarnsymbolic link '/usr/src/linux' to the running kernel
 source.
 ewend 1
 fi
 # --

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version [New Thread]

2005-10-06 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 08:04, Bogo Mipps wrote:
 On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:42, Glenn Enright wrote:
  On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 06:42, Glenn Enright wrote:
   Try this...
  
 ls -l /usr/src/linux
 uname -r
  
   these should give you the same version.

 rugosa / # ls -l /usr/src/linux
 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 23 Oct  3 14:22 /usr/src/linux -
 linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r10

 rugosa / # uname -r
 2.6.12-gentoo-r10
 rugosa / #

 This looks ok?  Yes?

 So where to from there?  No point in the If not?

You still need to make sure the sources are 'bedded in' as it were, so perform 
the stuff described in the second part of my post as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version [New Thread]

2005-10-06 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:27, Bogo Mipps wrote:
  *getfilevar VARIABLE CONFIGFILE
  * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory.
  * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux
 sources.
  * If you are using KBUILD_OUTPUT, please set the environment var so that
  * it points to the necessary object directory so that it might find
 .config.

 Why would the .config that's in the directory not be usable?  I just did
 the make oldconfig  make as you suggested - which ran without errors ...

Bah! try
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
exit out of that and save in the process. Try the emerge again. Stupid 
software ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] sk98lin

2005-10-04 Thread Glenn Enright
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:00, Martin Ullrich wrote:
 Hi!

 I tried both sk98lin (which works with SuSE) and skge. But none of
 them seems to detect my ethernet card correctly.

 Martin

 2005/10/1, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  IIRC, sk98lin is deprecated; use skge instead (I have one Marvell Yukon
  Gigabit NIC on my home PC).
 
  On 10/1/05, Joseph  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Try:
   modprobe sk98lin
  
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   #Joseph
  
   On Sat, 2005-10-01 at 13:43 +0200, Martin Ullrich wrote:
Hi!
   
I recently wanted to Install gentoo on my desktop computer (Acer
1804WSMi Laptop works fine with Gentoo!), but none of my two ethernet
cards was working when I booted the universal installation CD.
   
This is the composition of my system:
Asus P5AD2 Deluxe Mainboard (Socket 775)
Intel P4 3.4 Ghz (Hyperthreading - 2 virtual prozessors)
2G system memory (DDR2 - 533 MHz, bios automatically overclocks to
 
  600MHz)
 
2x Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet Cards (on board)
2x SATA-Harddisks (disks and controller work fine)
2x PATA CD/DVD ReWriter (working fine)
   
Under SuSE Linux the driver sk98lin for the two ethernet cards works
and exports eth0 and eth1, but when I booted the CD and manually
modprobe sk98lin the driver, no ethernet cards were found.
I found some other stuff about ASUS Mainboards on the Internet
(sk98lin related), but it mostly didn't apply to my problem (I got NO
error message during loading the module or in dmesg).
   
Does somebody know what I could do?
   
Thankful for every help,
Martin
  
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I've had a similar experience with gentoo CDs and the same module. You may 
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dependencies, but don't quote me on that. What version of the CD are you 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is my video card or motherboard going?

2005-10-03 Thread Glenn Enright
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:53, Joseph wrote:
 All of a sudden I've noticed strange green color around all the letters
 and icons on desktop, some object have vertical green stripes.
 Would it be an indication that motherboard or video is going?

 This bos has ASUS A7V8X Motherboard and GeForce4 MX 440 AGP Video card.
 --
 #Joseph

what type of monitor are you using? can you test that on another box to see if 
it gives a good picture? Also does increasing the colour saturation on the 
monitor make the problem significantly worse? Make sure there are no new 
speakers or magnetic things too close by.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is my video card or motherboard going?

2005-10-03 Thread Glenn Enright
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:26, Joseph wrote:
snip
  what type of monitor are you using? can you test that on another box to
  see if it gives a good picture? Also does increasing the colour
  saturation on the monitor make the problem significantly worse? Make sure
  there are no new speakers or magnetic things too close by.

 It seems to me you were right.  The problem is with monitor, this is NEC
 18in LCD monitor.  The good thing is that it just happened one week
 before warranty is about to expire.

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Lol still sucks but good job spotted it now eh. Luck getting it fixed ASAP for 
you :).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow

2005-09-29 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:22, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:58:12 +, Glenn Enright wrote:
  I second esync. It is a nice script that runs a little faster than
  'emerge sync'.

 It calls emerge sync, so how can it run faster?

 # This script imports the current esearch index,
 # calls `emerge sync` and `eupdatedb` and then
 # shows the packages which were updated or added
 # during the sync.
 #...
 syncprogram =   /usr/bin/emerge sync

Umm... i didn't realize that! :p Until now I hadn't actually looked at the 
esync script.

I guess while I was trying it out, subjectively it seemed to do its thing 
faster. Perhaps that was down to the fact it calls emerge with the verbose 
option off, which provides less overhead in the terminal. But obviously that 
is easy enough to do from the command line as well. Still I get the 
functionality of esearch in the bargain so it suits me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow

2005-09-28 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:12, Paweł Madej wrote:
 Dunc wrote:
  For something you should only do once a day, 10 minutes isn't that bad
  though.

 I sync not day by day but 2-3 times a week but when I sync I want to run
 just after it emerge of updates (I follow new ebuilds on [1] site and
 run emerge if sth interesting for me  appears there).

 My other question is if there is some script which could follow rrs from
 [1] and run emerge sync and emerge -uND world after there is for example
 10 ebuild updated comparing to my system, or other way that it will
 email me that there is 10 ebuilds new and i should run sync manually.

 Greets
 Paweł
I second esync. It is a nice script that runs a little faster than 'emerge 
sync'. I have a little script in my daily cron list that follows...

#! /bin/sh
# /etc/cron.daily/esync.automated
# 
# Based on rkhunter script by Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Written by Glenn Enright on 14-Oct-2004
#
# Purpose
#  To provide a facility to regularly update the portage tree via cron so we
#  don't have to remember to do it manually, and send us a list of updates to
#  consider.
#
# Requires
#  portage to be properly installed. see 'man emerge' for details
#  esearch: do 'emerge esearch'
#
# CHANGELOG:
#  19-Oct-2004 - updated to use tool esearch. Improved speed and
#  feedback.
#  29-Sep-2005 - Reviewed code and did some tidying up. Changed file 
#  group to wheel to allow easier administration.
#

# 
# ENABLEMENT OPTIONS

# set to no if you don't want to run this script
#
ENABLE=yes

# set to 'yes' if you wish the output to be mailed to you
#
SEND_EMAIL=yes

# 
# OPERATIONAL COMMANDS

# main command
#   fixme: is nice needed with 2.6 kernel?
CMD=nice esync --nocolor --nospinner

# NOTE: the rest of these options are only relevant
# if you set SEND_EMAIL to 'yes'
#
EMAIL_SUBJECT=${HOSTNAME}: 'esync' output
EMAIL_RECIPIENT=root
EMAIL_CMD=| mail -s \${EMAIL_SUBJECT}\ ${EMAIL_RECIPIENT}

# 

if [ ${ENABLE} = yes ]; then

   if [ -x /usr/bin/emerge ]; then
  #---
  # test to see if we want to send success/failure email
  #
  if [ ${SEND_EMAIL} = yes ]; then
 CMD=${CMD} ${EMAIL_CMD}
  else
 CMD=${CMD} /dev/null
  fi
  # --


  # --
  # check to see if emerge is already running so
  # we dont interupt it. fail gracefully if it is
  #
  if [ ! ps -ax | grep -c emerge ]; then
 # NB: the following text is formated from the margin.
 MAIL_WARN_MESSAGE=echo -e ' ** WARNING ** : The program 'emerge' is 
currently running. Please wait for the next scheduled update or run esync 
manually.'
 eval exec ${MAIL_WARN_MESSAGE} ${EMAIL_CMD}
  else
 # actually do the thing
 eval exec ${CMD}
  fi
  # -

   fi
fi
# EOF

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Re: [gentoo-user] codec drivers problem.

2005-09-25 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 08:45, David Harel wrote:
 Jonathan, Thanks for your explanation.

 I still don't get it.
 The command emerge should have done the dependent packages before doing
 the desirable package anyway. Also, if I have to specify additional
 packages while doing mplayer, how do I add them? but last thing. I did
 emerge win32codec and THEN mplayer and that didn't work.

Ok let me take a crack at this.
The dependant packages ARE installed as needed. But this is ho it works. 

USE flags are there to enable various bonus features of packages that you may 
like. IF you want to enable certain features then you change the USE flags 
in /etc/make.conf right? However its not as simple as just remerging the 
package, because other dependencies may be affected by the change in USE 
flags too. To catch all this emerge has an option --newuse, which tells the 
system to update all packages that have their use flags changed. 

So change your USE flags to include any features you want on your system, then
run
emerge --ask --newuse --verbose world
or  emerge -avN world

This should show you a list of packages with the use flags listed next to each 
package and any flags that have changed will be highlighted with a '*', and 
you can type y or n in answer to the question about making it happen. 

If you change a lot of flags you may have a very long list of packages to 
update, but its worth it long term, because you get a functional feature set, 
that works for you :). As stated previously on this list, USE flags are 
described in the portage tree in /$PORTAGEDIR/profiles/use.desc

Most of this info is from 'man emerge' BTW.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version

2005-09-16 Thread Glenn Enright
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:18, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Dave Nebinger schreef:
  /usr/src/- linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4
 
  /usr/src/linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4 exists
 
  You need to link /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4,
  as in:
 
  # cd /usr/src # ln -sf linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4 linux
 
  Dave

 Or, dicing it down even further:

 /usr/src/linux is not a folder. linux is a symlink in the /usr/src/
 folder. This symlink, because it is targeted, either
 manually or automatically, to the last-installed kernel source-- which is
 not necessarily the same as the currently running kernel-- is used by
 applications which need to know what version of the kernel to compile
 against.

 What your error is saying is that it cannot determine what kernel source
 to compile against, because the 'linux' symlink in /usr/src
 (/usr/src/linux, thus) does not exist, or is not valid (does not point
 to a kernel source).

 In your case, it does not seem to exist.

 Holly

Also one I came across is if the sources are in vanilla condition (ie youve 
run 'make mrproper' or similar) then the version hasnt been stamped out yet, 
which confuses some programs. I had to do a config and then make to get them 
in acceptable shape. This was way back with 2.6.5 I think.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version

2005-09-16 Thread Glenn Enright
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:17, Holly Bostick wrote:

 So, I would ask: Is the source that /usr/src/linux links to configured?
 Has it been compiled?

 Holly

Point taken. As always your posts are detailed and helpful :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP

2005-09-06 Thread Glenn Enright
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:40, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
OK, the target machine is now rebuilt. I decided since I had to
 rebuild both WinXP and Gentoo that I'd just put them on the same hard
 drive. The Gentoo install is complete right up to the point where I
 run grub and write it somewhere and I want to make sure I understand
 the right way to do this.

The disk layout is like this

 (MBR) - Win XP
 /dev/hda1 - Win XP
 /dev/hda2 - extended partition
 /dev/hda5 - /boot
 /dev/hda6 - swap
 /dev/hda7 - /
 /dev/hda8 - /home

Now, my question, where do I write grub? I believe it's into the
 MBR and not into partition 1, correct? If so I'd use:

 grub

 grub root (hd0,4)
 grub setup (hd0)   (Install GRUB in the MBR)
 grub quit

Youve got the right idea, but hd0,4 is the logical holder for your linux 
partitions, not the boot partition that holds the grub files. So root is 
your /boot partition, ie hd0,5. 

All this information can be found in your info files for grub, and by using 
your method, section 3.2 (Installing Grub Natively)

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Dock Application

2005-08-26 Thread Glenn Enright
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:56, Michael Crute wrote:
 This is kind of off topic but could someone please look at this
 screenshot (http://pstudios.ath.cx/screenshots/kody-nov-4-04.png) and
 tell me what dock (or icon set) this guy is using. Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Root login, KDE-3.4

2005-08-25 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:34, Ted Ozolins wrote:
 Just completed an emerge -uvD world on all my systems here. The update
 went extremely smooth, many thanks to the Gentoo developers and package
 maintainer.  Now root is not permitted to login to KDE, which is just
 fine by me except for login into my lab-rat. My test machine is placed
 on the net only as a user and when I need to upgrade, the rest of the
 time it is not on the net.  I use the lab-rat to test new
 hardware/software and its convenient to be logged in as root. How do I
 enable root login in kdm?

 TIA

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 Westbank, B. C

do you mean you cant use the root login name or that there is no icon for root 
in kdm? you should be able to type root in the username box and passswd as 
per normal. Why you would really want to escapes me right now tho, cause all 
the important stuff can be done with control center or konsole using su. just 
my 2c.
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Re: [gentoo-user] fan noise in recent kernels

2005-08-25 Thread Glenn Enright
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Humm... I tried gkrellm2 on one machine. It runs but I haven't figured
 out how to make it show me fans and temps. I wonder if this older Asus
 A7V266-E machine can do that?

 I also emerge gkrellm-sensors but I'll have to find some info on how
 to use that. Possibly it's part of the solution.

 Thanks,
 Mark
Ok fair nough. I belive that gkrellm2 has most of the plugins as part of its 
emerge, sorta like a monlithic ebuild, wheras gkrellm-sensors is part of 
gkrelm version1. 

to configure right click on gkrelm and look for sensors under plugins. If 
everything is working, there should be a big list of checkboxes there you may 
enable. if you modprobe these modules *after* starting gkrellm it wont pick 
them up tho.

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[gentoo-user] kopete emerge fails on test

2005-08-13 Thread Glenn Enright
Im having problems compiling newer 'stable' versions of kopete with the tests 
active. It dies on kpasswordtest. Any kde gurus able to tell me why? I didnt 
really understand the source.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?

2005-08-01 Thread Glenn Enright
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 17:16, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 7/31/05, Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:52, Mark Knecht wrote:
   On 7/31/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Possibly this problem is really an NFS issue or a 1394 issue? Neither
   of these are overly tested, at least on my system under Gentoo. I ran
   the same system with FC2 for quite awhile. 1394 worked fine as far as
   I could tell, but I never used NFS much and I only jsut set up NFS
   today to try out Unison so maybe it's one of those systems causing the
   problem?
 
  Is the NFS filesystem mounted read-only?
  --

 No Glenn, it's mounted read/write and I tested that I Could write it
 from the machine running Unison.

 I tried running Unison on a directory containing a single CD. It hung
 up on that also. After the hang up the machine is really unhappy
 rebooting. It gives me messages about being unable to unmoust the NFS
 filesystems.

 Thanks,
 Mark

 thanks,
 Mark

Ok just a thought :). Last time I had a dodgy program Zac Medico suggested I 
run strace on it, so in your case from a command prompt...
# strace unison dir1 dir2

Does using a different terminal program make any difference? maybee using 
screen?. Not an expert here you understand just trying to fit peices in the 
puzzle.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?

2005-07-31 Thread Glenn Enright
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:52, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 7/31/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Possibly this problem is really an NFS issue or a 1394 issue? Neither
 of these are overly tested, at least on my system under Gentoo. I ran
 the same system with FC2 for quite awhile. 1394 worked fine as far as
 I could tell, but I never used NFS much and I only jsut set up NFS
 today to try out Unison so maybe it's one of those systems causing the
 problem?

Is the NFS filesystem mounted read-only?
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Re: [gentoo-user] gzip segmentation fault

2005-07-21 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:02, Zac Medico wrote:
 Glenn Enright wrote:
  Bugger. was afraid of that. Ive been running gcc3.4 for a while which
  needs some ~x86 stuff (glibc). Umm... static doesnt change.
 
  Strace on gzip isnt very interesting, gunzip gives me a stat64 file error
  towards the end...

 My system is mostly ~x86 stuff and I've never had a problem like yours.  I
 currently use glibc-2.3.5 and gcc-3.4.3-r1 with no noticeable troubles.

 I was going to suggest that you check the digests on glibc with equery
 check glibc but looking back at the original email I see that you already
 rebuilt it.  It looks like you definitely need to look at the toolchain
 (things listed in emerge --info like binutils and gcc).

 Zac

ok thanks heaps for all your help. back to the drawing board...
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