Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 04:16:23PM +0100, Penguin Lover Graham Murray squawked: Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where is this suggestion mentioned? Is there a bug number? The Gentoo bug is http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221141 Ah! Thanks. I see that there is another work-around suggested. I'll give that a try later today. W -- There is a penguin sitting on the top left corner of my monitor... He's watching you! Sortir en Pantoufles: up 577 days, 14:58 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
I agree with whoever said opera without mail is flying. It really is. I cant see the major improvements in firefox as preposed - ie speed, stability, memoryconsumption, etc. Opera still outdoes firefox imo. On 7/4/08, Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. There is something which lots of people have noticed. The suggested solution, which worked for me, was to change the X acceleration from XAA to EXA in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This will only work if your video driver supports EXA acceleration. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 11:32:39AM +0100, Penguin Lover Graham Murray squawked: Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. There is something which lots of people have noticed. The suggested solution, which worked for me, was to change the X acceleration from XAA to EXA in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This will only work if your video driver supports EXA acceleration. Where is this suggestion mentioned? Is there a bug number? I cannot use EXA on my laptop because of an old bug with xorg-ati-radeon that gives a CPU spike with EXA. Furthermore, when I experimented a small bit with using EXA (X and fvwm was very unresponsive, but it doesn't crash), most of the sites with the visual glitch problem were fixed, but a few different ones started having a different glitch, and a few of the sites that had a glitch now has a more minor, less noticeable glitch. I would like to track this bug/forum post to see if a more mature solution is proposed. W -- If I could choose between a second brain and a detachable stomach, I would definitely choose the stomach. I mean, then I could eat a lot, dump it all out, and simply continue eating, without any health worries! Whereas, I am perfectly happy with my brain as it is right now. ~m Sortir en Pantoufles: up 576 days, 15:37 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:07:10PM +0200, Gordon Schulz wrote: On 7/3/08, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 02:24:49PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? That is how I found FF2, and why I initially switched to Galeon. But when Firefox-3.0-r2 came out I gave FF another try, and I don't regret it at all. FF3 is a vast improvement over FF2 for me, it's quicker, more robust, takes up less memory, and the UI is a lot nicer. FF2 used to memory leak like an old man with diareah, but no problems with FF3. And I'm talking about the mozilla-firefox package, not -bin. For -bin I have 2.0.0.14 installed in case I ever need to use FF2 for something...I don't know what I would use it for but it can't hurt to have it. Probably a bit OT, but out of boredom I decided to give the newly released Opera 9.51 a spin - and I am pleasantly surprised. It's even way faster than FF3 and the font rendering is totally awesome. As I am developing quite some web-based stuff at work their new Dragonfly Debugger/Inspector is a good substitute for Firebug and the myopera.com integration supplies the much needed bookmark synchronisation between machines that Foxmarks handles on Firefox. I'm tempted to install Opera, but my system is completely GTK (if not CLI) and I just don't want to waste space with installing Qt ... Is there any possible way to install Opera without Qt support? -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman pgp77hZNI6xnT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm tempted to install Opera, but my system is completely GTK (if not CLI) and I just don't want to waste space with installing Qt ... Is there any possible way to install Opera without Qt support? It is possible to install Opera with a statically linked QT toolkit, but else than that - no. That would be like wanting to install Firefox without GTK (which personally I would like ;p). -- Greetings, Gordon. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On 7/3/08, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 02:24:49PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? That is how I found FF2, and why I initially switched to Galeon. But when Firefox-3.0-r2 came out I gave FF another try, and I don't regret it at all. FF3 is a vast improvement over FF2 for me, it's quicker, more robust, takes up less memory, and the UI is a lot nicer. FF2 used to memory leak like an old man with diareah, but no problems with FF3. And I'm talking about the mozilla-firefox package, not -bin. For -bin I have 2.0.0.14 installed in case I ever need to use FF2 for something...I don't know what I would use it for but it can't hurt to have it. Probably a bit OT, but out of boredom I decided to give the newly released Opera 9.51 a spin - and I am pleasantly surprised. It's even way faster than FF3 and the font rendering is totally awesome. As I am developing quite some web-based stuff at work their new Dragonfly Debugger/Inspector is a good substitute for Firebug and the myopera.com integration supplies the much needed bookmark synchronisation between machines that Foxmarks handles on Firefox. -- Greetings, Gordon. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. There is something which lots of people have noticed. The suggested solution, which worked for me, was to change the X acceleration from XAA to EXA in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This will only work if your video driver supports EXA acceleration. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 02:24:49PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? That is how I found FF2, and why I initially switched to Galeon. But when Firefox-3.0-r2 came out I gave FF another try, and I don't regret it at all. FF3 is a vast improvement over FF2 for me, it's quicker, more robust, takes up less memory, and the UI is a lot nicer. FF2 used to memory leak like an old man with diareah, but no problems with FF3. And I'm talking about the mozilla-firefox package, not -bin. For -bin I have 2.0.0.14 installed in case I ever need to use FF2 for something...I don't know what I would use it for but it can't hurt to have it. -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman pgpRJbfZAbTx3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified. -- Greetings, Gordon. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Hi, I didn't experience any crash with Firefox3, the only problem I had was a rendering issue with the resized pictures, but this bug is related to xulrunner-1.9 and it can be fixed in the xorg config. For me Firefox3 is a lot faster that Firefox2 and I don't have to restart it every 3 days in order to make it responsive again. Regards, Boris. On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 08:55, Gordon Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified. -- Greetings, Gordon. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- $ ruby -e'puts .:@BFegiklnorst.unpack(x4ax7aaX6ax5aX15ax4aax6aaX7ax2 \ aX5aX8axaX3ax8aX4ax6aX3aX6ax3ax3aX9ax4ax2aX9axaX6ax3aX2ax4 \ ax3aX4aXaX12ax10aaX7a).join' -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Seems to randomly die, dont really see it as faster than FF2, objectionable behaviour (jumping desktops when its called from another app), ugly icons, ... It will get better, ... I hope. BillK I started with a clean profile and got random crashes. It could be a little faster, but those crashes are nasty. The day ago I was at 20 seconds befor the end of the auction and it crashes!!! Da..! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:24:49 +0200, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Yes, move to last opera release, sounds better to me -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
080702 Gordon Schulz wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified. Same here on KDE 3.5.9 : are the dissatisfied using another DE (smile) ? Also, it does use less memory, typically 400 MB a/a 700 MB at end of day. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Schulz escreveu: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified. ME TOO, so good!!! (using some addons like flashblock, noscript, gmail, videodownloader) - -- Zhu Sha Zang Hyaku ne hayanda yo! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhrdPsACgkQbLyL8mxGP9SWegCgrj9QchlYwlj+U/CGvarjIpWj vosAn0uLG1netsJvvii0UPmag1FHppYb =tHXy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor opção para você! Experimente já e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Adam Carter wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: dbus gnome ipv6 java linguas_en linguas_en_US mozdevelop startup-notification xulrunner -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Jason, That's totally weird. Couple things that could cause this -- try disabling any composting window managers you may have running to see if that makes a difference. Also, is your computer stressed out (100% cpu usage) when you view the page? I've noticed that, among other things, GUIs in general tend to crap out (lots of repeated/trailing graphics) when the CPU gets pegged -- could be caused by Flash, or alpha transparencies in CSS, Java, or anything really... You may want to submit that screen shot as a bug to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org and see if they can recommend anything. Interesting screen shot though! - Brian On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there.
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. Lots of glitches with rendering some pages, its probably the webmaster's fault, but FF2 works with them, so I switched back. Also it is a little less memory and CPU hungry, but not that much. And, in my EEE PC I use a LOT of extensions that make my life easier, and like 50% of them do not work on FF3. I'll switch when FF3 is as good (for my personal use) as FF2. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:39:21 PM -0500, Jason Messerschmitt wrote: I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. I used to get that on several pages, but it hasn't happened for me since the release candidates. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
080702 Justin Findlay wrote: Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. I was using Konqueror 3.5.9 till FF3 came out found it fast reliable; there was 1 bug which was causing crashes on some JS pages, but they fixed it in a new version of Kdelibs. FF3 is a bit faster at rendering uses less memory than K or FF2. Otherwise, it's nice in K to have the toolbar at the side of the screen, but it's quicker to open the bookmark menu in FF3 (also at side-screen). I've tried Galeon and Epiphany Epiphany is really today's replacement for the old good Galeon I used that on my previous (now stand-by) machine, but to use it on this machine I'ld have to install 49 Gnome pkgs (ugh). I asked before: do those having problems with FF3 perhaps use Gnome ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Brian Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, That's totally weird. Couple things that could cause this -- try disabling any composting window managers you may have running to see if that makes a difference. Also, is your computer stressed out (100% cpu usage) when you view the page? I've noticed that, among other things, GUIs in general tend to crap out (lots of repeated/trailing graphics) when the CPU gets pegged -- could be caused by Flash, or alpha transparencies in CSS, Java, or anything really... You may want to submit that screen shot as a bug to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org and see if they can recommend anything. Interesting screen shot though! - Brian On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. Turning off compositing had no effect. The CPU is at only 30% or so when running the page. Goof shit.
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
This thread is getting depressing. I use Kubuntu at work and FF3 worked without a hitch since the beta. On Gentoo, FF2 works good, but I'm quite perplexed to see that FF3 is so many problems while a binary distro can flawlessly run a FF3 beta on its flagship release. What's wrong? m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 06:00:57 pm b.n. wrote: This thread is getting depressing. I use Kubuntu at work and FF3 worked without a hitch since the beta. On Gentoo, FF2 works good, but I'm quite perplexed to see that FF3 is so many problems while a binary distro can flawlessly run a FF3 beta on its flagship release. What's wrong? m. If I may chime in here... Running Gentoo x86 and firefox 3.0... no problems. Perhaps there's a hardware component to the problem? -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 04:38:00 PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: I asked before: do those having problems with FF3 perhaps use Gnome ? I use enlightenment live CVS from the enlightenment overlay. My general experience with FF3 is that it's about the same performance wise as FF2. There were lots of bugs with the prereleases but otherwise not much difference from FF2. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Hello, On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? I haven't had a single issue with it myself. Is it possible you may have an addon or other config option causing issues ? Have you tried loading a new profile ? -- Beau Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Carter schrieb: | I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Fast, really stable, fast, ugly with the default theme... Did i mentioned fast before? - -- Johann Schmitz http://www.j-schmitz.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhrBQAACgkQZsUt7MqpQk3knwCfTSdpQ9AGtDuF4tG9H4dxKGG6 xQ4AoIxY9KZu/iTC0s1IQmRFVdCIie4Z =ARnz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:31 +1000, Beau Henderson wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? I haven't had a single issue with it myself. Is it possible you may have an addon or other config option causing issues ? Have you tried loading a new profile ? -- Beau Henderson Seems to randomly die, dont really see it as faster than FF2, objectionable behaviour (jumping desktops when its called from another app), ugly icons, ... It will get better, ... I hope. BillK -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
