Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-29 Thread Grant
The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the laptop when it won't even have an OS on it. I could boot a LiveCD but I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network. Hum...that's pretty much a show stopper. In that case, setting up a wired network

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:05:31 -0800, Grant wrote: The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh hack. The problem with booting into the LiveCD is I can't get on the network. I don't have a crossover cable to

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Grant, on Saturday, 2007-01-27 at 09:34:47, you wrote: The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the laptop when it won't even have an OS on it. I could boot a LiveCD but I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network. Hum...that's pretty much a show

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Grant
The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the laptop when it won't even have an OS on it. I could boot a LiveCD but I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network. Hum...that's pretty much a show stopper. In that case, setting up a wired network (if they

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 January 2007 19:15, Grant wrote: The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the laptop when it won't even have an OS on it. I could boot a LiveCD but I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network. Hum...that's pretty much a show stopper. In

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the laptop when it won't even have an OS on it. I could boot a LiveCD but I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network. Hum...that's pretty much a show stopper. In

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant
All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. Is buying the laptop hard drive adapter the only way? - Grant On 1/26/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really appreciate

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant
I really appreciate all the advice. I have about 11 of 12 GBs copied from the laptop to the desktop system now via the tar|ssh method so I guess I'll let that complete. Once it's done, how can I move the data back over the network to the reformatted laptop? Well, tar|ssh simply done the

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 January 2007 16:38, Grant wrote: All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. Is buying the laptop hard drive adapter the only way? Please try not to top

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant
All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. Is buying the laptop hard drive adapter the only way? Please try not to top post in this ML. Sorry about that. In

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello, On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:51:48AM -0800, Grant wrote: and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant
and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Grant wrote: and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant
and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Grant wrote: and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant
and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Grant wrote: and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 08:38:23 -0800, Grant wrote: All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from a

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:09:22 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh hack. And as your laptop's drive may not be trustworthy, I'd run rsync a second time, immediately after the first.

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant
Hmmm - sounds like its seen 868 read/write errors. However to advise you better we need to see the output. I suspect it is huge because there are error details for each of the 868 errors. How about post the first 200 lines of the smartctl output to the list? Here are the first 91 lines. After

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant
All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant
and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did just try chrooting into my laptop's /dev/hda3 copy on my desktop system with: chroot /home/grant/hda3 /bin/bash and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't checked the laptop drive yet. Can I make a smartmontools package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop? How can I do that? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ... that could also possibly explain why vim is dying, if

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Kent Fredric
I did a fresh format and install with the GTK installer from a LiveCD and on the second boot errors are detected in the file system. I guess it's over for this drive? If its within its warranty, send it back and ask for a replacement. Make sure try get a technical explanation of what exactly

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Grant wrote: === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED Well - although says its passed - if you run any of the self-tests I would expect to see a change to 'failed'. You might want to run the 'short' or 'long' tests (-t short or -t long)

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-26 Thread Grant
My laptop is currently still copying everything to my desktop system via tar and ssh. I generally have to run rc on the desktop system periodically to make sure network-dependent services are still running as the desktop sometimes loses the wireless connection temporarily. When I ran rc this

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-26 Thread Grant
I used Ctrl+Alt+Fn to determine that the sizes of the copied directories on the desktop system do seem to correspond with their original sizes on the laptop so that's good. How should I copy the data from the desktop system back to the laptop? After the data is copied to the desktop, I'll make

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:47:51 -0800, Grant wrote: My laptop is currently still copying everything to my desktop system via tar and ssh. I generally have to run rc on the desktop system periodically to make sure network-dependent services are still running as the desktop sometimes loses the

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-26 Thread Randy Barlow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant wrote: How should I copy the data from the desktop system back to the laptop? After the data is copied to the desktop, I'll make new filesystems on the laptop's partitions, so how can I get the data back to the laptop? You could use netcat,

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-26 Thread kashani
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:47:51 -0800, Grant wrote: My laptop is currently still copying everything to my desktop system via tar and ssh. I generally have to run rc on the desktop system periodically to make sure network-dependent services are still running as the desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-26 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Grant, on Friday, 2007-01-26 at 09:47:51, you wrote: My laptop is currently still copying everything to my desktop system via tar and ssh. That's good. dd would be easier on the HD in case it's breaking but if you have a filesystem error you'd still have to fix that after copying back. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-26 Thread Grant
I really appreciate all the advice. I have about 11 of 12 GBs copied from the laptop to the desktop system now via the tar|ssh method so I guess I'll let that complete. Once it's done, how can I move the data back over the network to the reformatted laptop? - Grant On 1/26/07, Matthias Bethke

[gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-25 Thread Grant
Hello, I woke up this morning and turned on my laptop to find that it no longer boots. It initially hung on starting hald, and once I prevented hald from starting it hung on gdm, and once I prevented gdm from starting I could log in as root but vi failed with a Bus error. I booted a LiveCD,

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-25 Thread Thomas Lingefelt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Grant wrote: Hello, I woke up this morning and turned on my laptop to find that it no longer boots. It initially hung on starting hald, and once I prevented hald from starting it hung on gdm, and once I prevented gdm from starting I could log

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-25 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Grant, on Thursday, 2007-01-25 at 08:20:37, you wrote: I successfully wrote an iso of some important files after booting up normally (minus hald, X, and vi) so that's good. Is there a utility I can run on the disk to see if there is permanent damage? Should I try re-emerging packages that

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-25 Thread Grant
I ran 'fsck -t ext3 /dev/hda3' and it detected and corrected a bunch of stuff. After that, /bin/bash was missing so I copied it from a LiveCD and now it's behaving exactly as it was before I ran fsck. Do you know of any way to try and bring the hard drive in its current form back to full

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-25 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 25 January 2007 19:28, Grant wrote: Matthias, I just realized that I still have a network connection with the laptop so I should be able to move its data to my desktop machine across the network as you suggest. Can you recommend the best way to move /dev/hda3 and /dev/hda1

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-25 Thread Kent Fredric
dd if=/dev/hda3 bs=some_large_value | bzip2 | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /suitable/path/to/hda3.img.bz2 Or, if you can mount the partition, you can use tar: tar -cjvf - /mount/point/ | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /some/path ; tar -xjvf - you could also use netcat to transfer the files instead