Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-04 Thread Ralf Stephan
 Just for comparison,
 http://blog.spida.net/index.php?/archives/3-Powerusage.html has some
 measurements of a low-power system.

That's not even optimal. My King Young w/ 1.6GHz Celeron, 500 MB RAM,
and Intel 855 graphics uses just 30-35W at 100% CPU.

And it's silent!


ralf
P.S. see e.g. http://www.mini-itx.de

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Timo Boettcher
* Jeff Horelick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [Linux is] writing to the hard
 drive more often and it doesn't spin as much down when it's not in use to
 help performance.
There is the Laptop-Mode for that.
 Also, if i was you, i'd be worried about your system using
 that LITTLE energy especially since you have a pretty hefty CPU, video card,
 motherboard, 2 hardrives and al the rest of your components.
Just for comparison,
http://blog.spida.net/index.php?/archives/3-Powerusage.html has some
measurements of a low-power system.

 Timo
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Samstag 02 Juni 2007 20:03 schrieb Jeff Horelick:
 Florian,

 That's not that big of a difference...Also, Gentoo/Linux does not have
 powersaving for every device like Windows XP...it's writing to the hard
 drive more often and it doesn't spin as much down when it's not in use to
 help performance. Also, if i was you, i'd be worried about your system
 using that LITTLE energy especially since you have a pretty hefty CPU,
 video card, motherboard, 2 hardrives and al the rest of your components.

 On 6/2/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys!
 
  I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo
  consumes a
  quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W
 
  PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same hardware
  is
  plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and cpuinfo
  as
  well as my world-file just in case it's related to some software.
 
  Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?
 
  A short overview of my hardware:
 
  AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ EE
  Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (WLAN should be deactivated)
  2048 MB DDR2 Corsair
  SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
  ATI Radeon 1950 Pro (fglrx)
  2 SATA2 HDDs
  1 SATA1 DVD-RAM
  Floppy
  USB mouse, keyboard and printer
  TFT screen (connected via DVI)

Well, I've forgotten to mention that I didn't substract all peripheral 
devices. My new calculations (idle, nothing but the big black box under my 
desk): Linux 137W, Win 114W (20% or 18EUR / 20$ p.a.).

It seems I can't disable my onboard WLAN completely and while Win deactivates 
it because I don't provide drivers, Linux gives it some power although no 
software is accessing it. 

By the way: Maximum output while testing with 3DMark 2006: 219W. I wonder why 
I had to buy a 400W power supply...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:16:33 +0200
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Samstag 02 Juni 2007 20:03 schrieb Jeff Horelick:
  Florian,
 
  That's not that big of a difference...Also, Gentoo/Linux does not
  have powersaving for every device like Windows XP...it's writing to
  the hard drive more often and it doesn't spin as much down when
  it's not in use to help performance. Also, if i was you, i'd be
  worried about your system using that LITTLE energy especially since
  you have a pretty hefty CPU, video card, motherboard, 2 hardrives
  and al the rest of your components.
 
  On 6/2/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi guys!
  
   I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo
   consumes a
   quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W
  
   PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same
   hardware is
   plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and
   cpuinfo as
   well as my world-file just in case it's related to some software.
  
   Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?
  
   A short overview of my hardware:
  
   AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ EE
   Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (WLAN should be deactivated)
   2048 MB DDR2 Corsair
   SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
   ATI Radeon 1950 Pro (fglrx)
   2 SATA2 HDDs
   1 SATA1 DVD-RAM
   Floppy
   USB mouse, keyboard and printer
   TFT screen (connected via DVI)
 
 Well, I've forgotten to mention that I didn't substract all
 peripheral devices. My new calculations (idle, nothing but the big
 black box under my desk): Linux 137W, Win 114W (20% or 18EUR / 20$
 p.a.).
 
 It seems I can't disable my onboard WLAN completely and while Win
 deactivates it because I don't provide drivers, Linux gives it some
 power although no software is accessing it. 
 
 By the way: Maximum output while testing with 3DMark 2006: 219W. I
 wonder why I had to buy a 400W power supply...

Maybe you can power off the wlan with a wireless-utils program, or
maybe by unloading the kernel module?  

Have you set up power management, powersave frequency governors?  Have
you set up your disk(s) to idle quickly?  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Sonntag 03 Juni 2007 18:03 schrieb Dan Farrell:
 On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:16:33 +0200

 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Samstag 02 Juni 2007 20:03 schrieb Jeff Horelick:
   Florian,
  
   That's not that big of a difference...Also, Gentoo/Linux does not
   have powersaving for every device like Windows XP...it's writing to
   the hard drive more often and it doesn't spin as much down when
   it's not in use to help performance. Also, if i was you, i'd be
   worried about your system using that LITTLE energy especially since
   you have a pretty hefty CPU, video card, motherboard, 2 hardrives
   and al the rest of your components.
  
   On 6/2/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys!
   
I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo
consumes a
quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W
   
PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same
hardware is
plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and
cpuinfo as
well as my world-file just in case it's related to some software.
   
Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?
   
A short overview of my hardware:
   
AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ EE
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (WLAN should be deactivated)
2048 MB DDR2 Corsair
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
ATI Radeon 1950 Pro (fglrx)
2 SATA2 HDDs
1 SATA1 DVD-RAM
Floppy
USB mouse, keyboard and printer
TFT screen (connected via DVI)
 
  Well, I've forgotten to mention that I didn't substract all
  peripheral devices. My new calculations (idle, nothing but the big
  black box under my desk): Linux 137W, Win 114W (20% or 18EUR / 20$
  p.a.).
 
  It seems I can't disable my onboard WLAN completely and while Win
  deactivates it because I don't provide drivers, Linux gives it some
  power although no software is accessing it.
 
  By the way: Maximum output while testing with 3DMark 2006: 219W. I
  wonder why I had to buy a 400W power supply...

 Maybe you can power off the wlan with a wireless-utils program, or
 maybe by unloading the kernel module?

 Have you set up power management, powersave frequency governors?  Have
 you set up your disk(s) to idle quickly?

There is no kernel module. I'll play around with modules, configs and tools 
later. It's not urgent, it was more like a mystery that I wanted to solve.

Yes, powermanagement (aka PowerNow!) is activated. No, my disks do not spin 
down and should not because of the attrition (I hope that's the right word) 
that comes with spinning up.

Anyway, thanks for your input, guys!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Ryan Sims

On 6/3/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Am Sonntag 03 Juni 2007 18:03 schrieb Dan Farrell:
 On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:16:33 +0200

 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Samstag 02 Juni 2007 20:03 schrieb Jeff Horelick:
   Florian,
  
   That's not that big of a difference...Also, Gentoo/Linux does not
   have powersaving for every device like Windows XP...it's writing to
   the hard drive more often and it doesn't spin as much down when
   it's not in use to help performance. Also, if i was you, i'd be
   worried about your system using that LITTLE energy especially since
   you have a pretty hefty CPU, video card, motherboard, 2 hardrives
   and al the rest of your components.
  
   On 6/2/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys!
   
I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo
consumes a
quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W
   
PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same
hardware is
plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and
cpuinfo as
well as my world-file just in case it's related to some software.
   
Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?
   
A short overview of my hardware:
   
AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ EE
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (WLAN should be deactivated)
2048 MB DDR2 Corsair
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
ATI Radeon 1950 Pro (fglrx)
2 SATA2 HDDs
1 SATA1 DVD-RAM
Floppy
USB mouse, keyboard and printer
TFT screen (connected via DVI)
 
  Well, I've forgotten to mention that I didn't substract all
  peripheral devices. My new calculations (idle, nothing but the big
  black box under my desk): Linux 137W, Win 114W (20% or 18EUR / 20$
  p.a.).
 
  It seems I can't disable my onboard WLAN completely and while Win
  deactivates it because I don't provide drivers, Linux gives it some
  power although no software is accessing it.
 
  By the way: Maximum output while testing with 3DMark 2006: 219W. I
  wonder why I had to buy a 400W power supply...

 Maybe you can power off the wlan with a wireless-utils program, or
 maybe by unloading the kernel module?

 Have you set up power management, powersave frequency governors?  Have
 you set up your disk(s) to idle quickly?

There is no kernel module. I'll play around with modules, configs and tools
later. It's not urgent, it was more like a mystery that I wanted to solve.

Yes, powermanagement (aka PowerNow!) is activated. No, my disks do not spin
down and should not because of the attrition (I hope that's the right word)
that comes with spinning up.


[somewhat OT]:
Please read this: http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
The damage done to hard drives in spinup/spindown is in the same
category of juju as ricer cflags and cloud seeding.  Drive activity
and such is *not* an indicator of failure, while there may be some
mechanical stress on the disk, but it's not going to cause your drive
to fail noticeably earlier.  Spin them down, save the power, and don't
listen to fearmongers.[/OT]

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Elias Probst
On Sunday 03 June 2007 19:55:22 Florian Philipp wrote:
 Hi guys!

 I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo consumes
 a quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W

 PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same hardware
 is plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and cpuinfo
 as well as my world-file just in case it's related to some software.

 Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?

Try this:
http://www.linuxpowertop.org/powertop.php

Regards, Elias P.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Sonntag 03 Juni 2007 19:06 schrieb Ryan Sims:
 On 6/3/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Sonntag 03 Juni 2007 18:03 schrieb Dan Farrell:
   On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:16:33 +0200
  
   Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Samstag 02 Juni 2007 20:03 schrieb Jeff Horelick:
 Florian,

 That's not that big of a difference...Also, Gentoo/Linux does not
 have powersaving for every device like Windows XP...it's writing to
 the hard drive more often and it doesn't spin as much down when
 it's not in use to help performance. Also, if i was you, i'd be
 worried about your system using that LITTLE energy especially since
 you have a pretty hefty CPU, video card, motherboard, 2 hardrives
 and al the rest of your components.

 On 6/2/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys!
 
  I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently
  Gentoo consumes a
  quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W
 
  PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same
  hardware is
  plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and
  cpuinfo as
  well as my world-file just in case it's related to some software.
 
  Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?
 
  A short overview of my hardware:
 
  AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ EE
  Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (WLAN should be deactivated)
  2048 MB DDR2 Corsair
  SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
  ATI Radeon 1950 Pro (fglrx)
  2 SATA2 HDDs
  1 SATA1 DVD-RAM
  Floppy
  USB mouse, keyboard and printer
  TFT screen (connected via DVI)
   
Well, I've forgotten to mention that I didn't substract all
peripheral devices. My new calculations (idle, nothing but the big
black box under my desk): Linux 137W, Win 114W (20% or 18EUR / 20$
p.a.).
   
It seems I can't disable my onboard WLAN completely and while Win
deactivates it because I don't provide drivers, Linux gives it some
power although no software is accessing it.
   
By the way: Maximum output while testing with 3DMark 2006: 219W. I
wonder why I had to buy a 400W power supply...
  
   Maybe you can power off the wlan with a wireless-utils program, or
   maybe by unloading the kernel module?
  
   Have you set up power management, powersave frequency governors?  Have
   you set up your disk(s) to idle quickly?
 
  There is no kernel module. I'll play around with modules, configs and
  tools later. It's not urgent, it was more like a mystery that I wanted to
  solve.
 
  Yes, powermanagement (aka PowerNow!) is activated. No, my disks do not
  spin down and should not because of the attrition (I hope that's the
  right word) that comes with spinning up.

 [somewhat OT]:
 Please read this: http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
 The damage done to hard drives in spinup/spindown is in the same
 category of juju as ricer cflags and cloud seeding.  Drive activity
 and such is *not* an indicator of failure, while there may be some
 mechanical stress on the disk, but it's not going to cause your drive
 to fail noticeably earlier.  Spin them down, save the power, and don't
 listen to fearmongers.[/OT]

 --
 Ryan W Sims

Thanks!

I've known that this report exists but have newer actually seen it myself. I'm 
still a bit reluctant because I don't suspect that HDDs in Google's server 
farm spind down as often as mine would.
Well, I'll just close my eyes and hope for the best when I hear my darlings 
shutting down. ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Florian Philipp

 I've known that this report exists but have newer actually seen it myself.
 I'm still a bit reluctant because I don't suspect that HDDs in Google's
 server farm spind down as often as mine would.
 Well, I'll just close my eyes and hope for the best when I hear my darlings
 shutting down. ;)

Argh, never, not newer. That's a typo that even I should have found...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Sonntag 03 Juni 2007 19:19 schrieb Elias Probst:
 On Sunday 03 June 2007 19:55:22 Florian Philipp wrote:
  Hi guys!
 
  I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo
  consumes a quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W
 
  PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same hardware
  is plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and
  cpuinfo as well as my world-file just in case it's related to some
  software.
 
  Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?

 Try this:
 http://www.linuxpowertop.org/powertop.php

 Regards, Elias P.

Nice software, will be handy in the future. Thanks again! 
However, it seems I'll have to wait until sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.21 is 
marked stable for AMD64.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 19:37:19 +0200
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Sonntag 03 Juni 2007 19:06 schrieb Ryan Sims:
  On 6/3/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Am Sonntag 03 Juni 2007 18:03 schrieb Dan Farrell:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:16:33 +0200
   
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Samstag 02 Juni 2007 20:03 schrieb Jeff Horelick:
  Florian,
 
  That's not that big of a difference...Also, Gentoo/Linux
  does not have powersaving for every device like Windows
  XP...it's writing to the hard drive more often and it
  doesn't spin as much down when it's not in use to help
  performance. Also, if i was you, i'd be worried about your
  system using that LITTLE energy especially since you have a
  pretty hefty CPU, video card, motherboard, 2 hardrives and
  al the rest of your components.
 
  On 6/2/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi guys!
  
   I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC.
   Aparently Gentoo consumes a
   quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W
  
   PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested).
   The same hardware is
   plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci,
   lsmod and cpuinfo as
   well as my world-file just in case it's related to some
   software.
  
   Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?
  
   A short overview of my hardware:
  
   AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ EE
   Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (WLAN should be deactivated)
   2048 MB DDR2 Corsair
   SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
   ATI Radeon 1950 Pro (fglrx)
   2 SATA2 HDDs
   1 SATA1 DVD-RAM
   Floppy
   USB mouse, keyboard and printer
   TFT screen (connected via DVI)

 Well, I've forgotten to mention that I didn't substract all
 peripheral devices. My new calculations (idle, nothing but
 the big black box under my desk): Linux 137W, Win 114W (20%
 or 18EUR / 20$ p.a.).

 It seems I can't disable my onboard WLAN completely and while
 Win deactivates it because I don't provide drivers, Linux
 gives it some power although no software is accessing it.

 By the way: Maximum output while testing with 3DMark 2006:
 219W. I wonder why I had to buy a 400W power supply...
   
Maybe you can power off the wlan with a wireless-utils program,
or maybe by unloading the kernel module?
   
Have you set up power management, powersave frequency
governors?  Have you set up your disk(s) to idle quickly?
  
   There is no kernel module. I'll play around with modules, configs
   and tools later. It's not urgent, it was more like a mystery that
   I wanted to solve.
  
   Yes, powermanagement (aka PowerNow!) is activated. No, my disks
   do not spin down and should not because of the attrition (I hope
   that's the right word) that comes with spinning up.
 
  [somewhat OT]:
  Please read this: http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
  The damage done to hard drives in spinup/spindown is in the same
  category of juju as ricer cflags and cloud seeding.  Drive activity
  and such is *not* an indicator of failure, while there may be some
  mechanical stress on the disk, but it's not going to cause your
  drive to fail noticeably earlier.  Spin them down, save the power,
  and don't listen to fearmongers.[/OT]
 
  --
  Ryan W Sims
 
 Thanks!
 
 I've known that this report exists but have newer actually seen it
 myself. I'm still a bit reluctant because I don't suspect that HDDs
 in Google's server farm spind down as often as mine would.
 Well, I'll just close my eyes and hope for the best when I hear my
 darlings shutting down. ;)
In my experience, a drive is quite a lot more likely to last a long
time when you _do_ spin it down regularly.  The only drive I ever
killed before its time, was set to _not_ spin down accidentally, and
was in a tiny slimline case, and by the time i got back from work and
realized something was wrong, the outside surface of the drive was hot
enough to cook eggs on (or so i'd guess).  Now I make sure my drives
are set to spin down after a few minutes.  Don't think this is gonna
save much for power though.  I actually thought that's what you were
referring to with 'attrition;' that is, it takes just as much power to
spin up the drive as to keep it spinning for a few extra minutes.  

Thanks for the report, I found it very interesting.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 19:46:15 +0200
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Sonntag 03 Juni 2007 19:19 schrieb Elias Probst:
  On Sunday 03 June 2007 19:55:22 Florian Philipp wrote:
   Hi guys!
  
   I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo
   consumes a quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to
   188 W
  
   PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same
   hardware is plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of
   lspci, lsmod and cpuinfo as well as my world-file just in case
   it's related to some software.
  
   Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?
 
  Try this:
  http://www.linuxpowertop.org/powertop.php
 
  Regards, Elias P.
 
 Nice software, will be handy in the future. Thanks again! 
 However, it seems I'll have to wait until
 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.21 is marked stable for AMD64.
is it ~amd64?  If you want it badly enough, I bet it's worth a try!
Hardly anything gets into ~arch unless it's almost ready to go.  

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[gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-02 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi guys!

I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo consumes a 
quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W

PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same hardware is 
plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and cpuinfo as 
well as my world-file just in case it's related to some software.

Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?

A short overview of my hardware:

AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ EE
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (WLAN should be deactivated)
2048 MB DDR2 Corsair
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
ATI Radeon 1950 Pro (fglrx)
2 SATA2 HDDs
1 SATA1 DVD-RAM
Floppy
USB mouse, keyboard and printer
TFT screen (connected via DVI)


 
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 75
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 
3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy
bogomips: 2011.55
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 75
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 
3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy
bogomips: 2011.55
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:08.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:09.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:09.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SMBus (rev a2)
00:09.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller (rev a2)
00:0a.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller (rev a1)
00:0a.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:0c.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 IDE (rev a1)
00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a2)
00:0d.1 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a2)
00:0d.2 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a2)
00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI bridge (rev a2)
00:10.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
00:11.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
00:12.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:14.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:16.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:17.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address 
Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM 
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1950 Pro 
(Primary) (PCIE)
02:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1950 Pro (Secondary) 
(PCIE)
03:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
03:07.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy Game Port (rev 04)
03:07.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port (rev 04)

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;)

2007-06-02 Thread Jeff Horelick

Florian,

That's not that big of a difference...Also, Gentoo/Linux does not have
powersaving for every device like Windows XP...it's writing to the hard
drive more often and it doesn't spin as much down when it's not in use to
help performance. Also, if i was you, i'd be worried about your system using
that LITTLE energy especially since you have a pretty hefty CPU, video card,
motherboard, 2 hardrives and al the rest of your components.

On 6/2/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi guys!

I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo
consumes a
quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W

PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same hardware
is
plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and cpuinfo
as
well as my world-file just in case it's related to some software.

Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go?

A short overview of my hardware:

AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ EE
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (WLAN should be deactivated)
2048 MB DDR2 Corsair
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
ATI Radeon 1950 Pro (fglrx)
2 SATA2 HDDs
1 SATA1 DVD-RAM
Floppy
USB mouse, keyboard and printer
TFT screen (connected via DVI)