[gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Hi all I may ask something already discussed, but I can't find any good documentation. I am wondering of how to secure my home repository on my laptop. I am thinking of cryptography and other things (the password uncrypt the repository and allows to read files...). What tool to use for ?

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-embedded] gdb debugging of small system built with catalyst

2012-01-02 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: FEATURES=installsources would probably get what you need by normalizing all source trees into /usr/src/debug/. -mike Thanks Mike, I'm using FEATURES=installsources splitdebug so now I have /usr/lib/debug and

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:24:35 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Why would you need to take it down? All you need to do is restart Apache after the update. I have to test, like, 200 websites to make sure they still work. Something /always/ breaks. Apache was just an example. PHP is the

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.euwrote: Hi all I may ask something already discussed, but I can't find any good documentation. I am wondering of how to secure my home repository on my laptop. I am thinking of cryptography and other things (the password

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics support problem in make menuconfig kernel 3.0.6

2012-01-02 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02.01.2012 08:40, Walter Dnes wrote: I checked /var/log/portage/elog after building xorg-server. It complains... == WARN: postinst This driver requires KMS support in your kernel Device Drivers

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Mick
On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: x SNIP Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 16:12:34 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Orlitzky wrote: Using emerge --update foo adds foo to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is there any reason to desire

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:24:35 -0500 Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/01/2012 07:09 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:07:45 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Usually it's because a world update wants to do both trivial version bumps and replace major software

[gentoo-user] Before I lock out myself from my box...

2012-01-02 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, Happy new year! :) ...before I make my GENTOO box unaccessible to me ... ;) For rendering with blenders new Cycles GPU based renderer I want to setup my box as follows: Rendering should be done with the GTX 560 Ti nvidia card and the normal desktop (aka X11) should be handled via the GT

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Mick
On Monday 02 Jan 2012 10:06:39 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:24:35 -0500 Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/01/2012 07:09 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:07:45 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Usually it's because a world update wants to do

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: The current behaviour is the correct and expected one - you told portage to emerge something and it did. Why else would you emerge something if you didn't intend it to become a permanent feature of the system and part of world? This has always been the definition of

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 02.01.2012 09:07, schrieb Stéphane Guedon: Hi all I may ask something already discussed, but I can't find any good documentation. I am wondering of how to secure my home repository on my laptop. I am thinking of cryptography and other things (the password uncrypt the repository and

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 04:19:39 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: The current behaviour is the correct and expected one - you told portage to emerge something and it did. Why else would you emerge something if you didn't intend it to become a permanent feature of

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 02.01.2012 11:49, schrieb Florian Philipp: Am 02.01.2012 09:07, schrieb Stéphane Guedon: Hi all I may ask something already discussed, but I can't find any good documentation. I am wondering of how to secure my home repository on my laptop. I am thinking of cryptography and other

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 04:19:39 -0600 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: The current behaviour is the correct and expected one - you told portage to emerge something and it did. Why else would you emerge something if you didn't intend it to become a

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 02 January 2012 11:49:11 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 02.01.2012 09:07, schrieb Stéphane Guedon: Hi all I may ask something already discussed, but I can't find any good documentation. I am wondering of how to secure my home repository on my laptop. I am thinking of cryptography

[gentoo-user] Black Monitor

2012-01-02 Thread Akendo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi guys, in the moment my screensave makes my Screen sleep. But the screen doesn't wake up. The Host itself is working fine, but i can't turn on the monitor anymore. Restarting of the xserver is not working. All what i can do is a reboot. I just

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 02.01.2012 12:36, schrieb Stéphane Guedon: On Monday 02 January 2012 11:49:11 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 02.01.2012 09:07, schrieb Stéphane Guedon: Hi all I may ask something already discussed, but I can't find any good documentation. I am wondering of how to secure my home repository on

Re: [gentoo-user] Black Monitor

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Hampicke
Restarting of the xserver is not working. All what i can do is a reboot. I just updated all my xorg-dirvers, but it's a now use. Are you using ati-drivers (fglrx)? Lately I've been having lots of troubles with x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2 / x11-drivers/ati-drivers-11.12 (blank, on boot,

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:44:08 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this: devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts The associated line when you cat

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:37:12 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Well, it is partially integrated: When it is not /home/* but some other partition/external disk, then KDE supports decrypting it when you mount it (like memory sticks). It can also save the password in kwallet. Gnome can do the same.

[gentoo-user] git protocol

2012-01-02 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Hi again I am setting up a git repository using gentoo gitosis. I can push well from my git repo to the server. But when I want to fetch the repo from the server to another computer using the git protocol (git://myserver/myproject.git) it says me the connection is refused, whereas the

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 02 January 2012 13:58:03 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:37:12 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Well, it is partially integrated: When it is not /home/* but some other partition/external disk, then KDE supports decrypting it when you mount it (like memory sticks). It can

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:12:31 +0100, Stéphane Guedon wrote: Alternatively, if you are using dmcrypt to encrypt /home, and you are the only user, set KDE to auto-login that user. The login will fail if dmcrypt failed to open your home partition, so one password effectively secures it all.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:06:32 -0600, Dale wrote: That's why I fixed the new way to be closer to what I am used to. I added --oneshot to my make.conf. When I really need to add something to world, I just use --select y -nav. To me, that is a lot of extra steps to be consistent. You are

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 05:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: You have a production machine delivering valuable services to multiple users. Therefore you must only update *anything* on it during planned maintenance slots. If paying customers are involved then preferably with a second redundant parallel machine

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 08:36 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:06:32 -0600, Dale wrote: That's why I fixed the new way to be closer to what I am used to. I added --oneshot to my make.conf. When I really need to add something to world, I just use --select y -nav. To me, that is a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 08:50:36 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: * Nobody would use --update to install a new package Actually, that's a good reason to use --update on a single package, as it installs a new package, but does not reinstall an existing package, so you can emerge -u a list of

Re: [gentoo-user] Black Monitor

2012-01-02 Thread Akendo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/2012 01:38 PM, Michael Hampicke wrote: Restarting of the xserver is not working. All what i can do is a reboot. I just updated all my xorg-dirvers, but it's a now use. Are you using ati-drivers (fglrx)? Lately I've been having lots of

[gentoo-user] [OT] Using m-audio Fast Track Pro on linux help

2012-01-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Running Wheezy Can anyone suggest pointers, urls, or coaching toward getting an m-audio USB Fast Track Pro (external sound card) working? When I run `alsamixer' it lists the Fast Track as one of the sound cards available. When I choose it, alsamixer reports there are no controls available

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 02.01.2012 14:29, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:12:31 +0100, Stéphane Guedon wrote: Alternatively, if you are using dmcrypt to encrypt /home, and you are the only user, set KDE to auto-login that user. The login will fail if dmcrypt failed to open your home partition, so

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:44:08 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this:                 devpts

Re: [gentoo-user] svn repo and apache - something went wrong

2012-01-02 Thread András Csányi
On 26 December 2011 17:13, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 12/26/11 09:56, András Csányi wrote: I was able to reach my repository through apache. The whole system was based on this [1] tutorial. I've double checked everything but the issue is the same. I've checked the emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Before I lock out myself from my box...

2012-01-02 Thread Francisco Ares
Not an answer, but my little knowledge on GPU processing: AFAIK, CUDA or OpenCL uses idle resources of the GPU, so I guess that you are safe even if you don't know (or have ways of) forcing one of them to X11. Good luck and happy new year Francisco On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:12 AM,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 08:50:36 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: * Nobody would use --update to install a new package Actually, that's a good reason to use --update on a single package, as it installs a new package, but does not reinstall an existing package, so you can

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Using m-audio Fast Track Pro on linux help

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
Harry Putnam wrote: Running Wheezy Can anyone suggest pointers, urls, or coaching toward getting an m-audio USB Fast Track Pro (external sound card) working? When I run `alsamixer' it lists the Fast Track as one of the sound cards available. When I choose it, alsamixer reports there are no

Re: [gentoo-user] Before I lock out myself from my box...

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, Happy new year! :) ...before I make my GENTOO box unaccessible to me ... ;) For rendering with blenders new Cycles GPU based renderer I want to setup my box as follows: Rendering should be done with the GTX 560 Ti nvidia

Re: [gentoo-user] Before I lock out myself from my box...

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote: Not an answer, but my little knowledge on GPU processing: AFAIK, CUDA or OpenCL uses idle resources of the GPU, so I guess that you are safe even if you don't know (or have ways of) forcing one of them to X11. Good luck

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 08:50:36 -0500 Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/2012 08:36 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:06:32 -0600, Dale wrote: That's why I fixed the new way to be closer to what I am used to. I added --oneshot to my make.conf. When I really

[gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread .
Hi there! I can't run Xorg with Nouveau. I use gentoo-sources without proprietary BLOBs (gentoo-libre). http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Free_your_Gentoo /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/525752/ /usr/src/linux/.config: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/525746/ lspci:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 10:05 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: So when the user tells portage to emerge (not merge) something it goes in world as obviously that's what the user wanted. Presumably the user knows what they are doing and can deal with both pieces. If the user would rather have software hold his

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-01-01 5:13 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/01/2012 05:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzkymich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Using emerge --update foo adds foo to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a real application, etc. How do you tell

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 10:31 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Uh-oh... I've *never* used -1 unless I'm trying to fix a broken package by recompiling it... I've always just used emerge -vuDN world... Been doing it this way for 7+ years, and never had a problem, so my question is: What 'harmful' thing has been

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-01-01 5:13 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/01/2012 05:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzkymich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Using emerge --update foo

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 10:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world should be a package __I__ specifically want to use. Everything in world (on my machines anyway) is something: 1) I'd call from the command line 2) Need to write a little software

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world should be a package __I__ specifically want to use. Everything in world (on my machines anyway) is

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 02 January 2012 09:07:49 Stéphane Guedon wrote: Hi all I may ask something already discussed, but I can't find any good documentation. I am wondering of how to secure my home repository on my laptop. I am thinking of cryptography and other things (the password uncrypt the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world should be a package __I__

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world should be a package __I__ specifically want to use. Everything in world (on my machines anyway) is

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 10:26:02AM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/02/2012 10:05 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: So when the user tells portage to emerge (not merge) something it goes in world as obviously that's what the user wanted. Presumably the user knows what they are doing and can

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 11:22 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not clear. You allow your server customers to modify your servers, or what, they asked you to install stuff and now you don't know which of them was needed and why? I'm just not clear. They ask us to install stuff, and now we don't know which

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 11:16 AM, Michael Mol wrote: Fine for your home PC, doesn't cut it on servers. I have the following in one of my world files: dev-php/PEAR-Mail dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime dev-php/PEAR-PEAR dev-php/PEAR-Structures_Graph which of those do I want? At least one of them was

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 11:25 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Look at it this way: with emergepackage you tell portage to install a package and add it to world. Period. The package will be installed, no matter whether it’s at the newest version or not. With -u, however, you tell emerge to only do the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:35:46 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a real application, etc. How do you tell

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:33:31 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Well, travel time sucks too, but I was referring to time travel via e.g. a time machine, in case some wise guy tried to answer well you shouldn't have done that. =) Ah, you mean backups, not time travel :) -- Neil Bothwick Mmmm,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:09:06 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Fine for your home PC, doesn't cut it on servers. I have the following in one of my world files: dev-php/PEAR-Mail dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime dev-php/PEAR-PEAR dev-php/PEAR-Structures_Graph which of those do I want?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/2012 11:16 AM, Michael Mol wrote: Fine for your home PC, doesn't cut it on servers. I have the following in one of my world files:  dev-php/PEAR-Mail  dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime  dev-php/PEAR-PEAR  

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 15:26:10 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: In that case, you probably want to use encfs to encrypt each home directory separately. dmcrypt works on block devices, so a single home partition would have a single password. dmcrypt supports multiple simultaneous passwords (I

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks exactly like the line above. What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting. Good point, but how does that fstab entry appear if she

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mathurin
. ivd...@gmail.com writes: Hi there! I can't run Xorg with Nouveau. I use gentoo-sources without proprietary BLOBs (gentoo-libre). http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Free_your_Gentoo /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/525752/ /usr/src/linux/.config:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:35:46 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or so and

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 12:06, Michael Mol wrote: That's the purpose of the emerge -p step. Presumably, you would see that there's a package in the list that you're not comfortable with removing, you'd decide you didn't want it removed, and you'd add it back to your world set. Yeah, I'm not sure I can

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/12 12:06, Michael Mol wrote: That's the purpose of the emerge -p step. Presumably, you would see that there's a package in the list that you're not comfortable with removing, you'd decide you didn't want it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/12 12:06, Michael Mol wrote: That's the purpose of the emerge -p step. Presumably, you would see that there's a package in the list that you're not comfortable with removing, you'd decide you didn't want it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 12:29, Mark Knecht wrote: That works for the case where the software is managed by portage, which is likely 99.% of what's on Gentoo systems worldwide. It doesn't work however for the odd case where I write some little program which requires a library (ta-lib in my portage

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/12 12:06, Michael Mol wrote: That's the purpose of the emerge -p step. Presumably, you would see that there's a package in the list

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 12:45, Michael Mol wrote: I hope you don't take this as a kind of disrespect, but this really feels more like administrator error than tool error. As someone else remarked, it's portage's job to do what you tell it to do; you point the gun, pull the trigger, it delivers the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Using m-audio Fast Track Pro on linux help

2012-01-02 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Harry Putnam wrote: Running Wheezy Can anyone suggest pointers, urls, or coaching toward getting an m-audio USB Fast Track Pro (external sound card) working? When I run `alsamixer' it lists the Fast Track as one of the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 12:47, Mark Knecht wrote: Again, 'equery depends' will tell you if any package locatable through the @world hierarchy needs the package. No need to uninstall anything to do that level of investigation. revdep-rebuild -I is also useful, although more historically than now. This

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/12 12:45, Michael Mol wrote: I hope you don't take this as a kind of disrespect, but this really feels more like administrator error than tool error. As someone else remarked, it's portage's job to do what

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Graham Murray
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org writes: On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or so and remove anything that

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 15:26:10 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: In that case, you probably want to use encfs to encrypt each home directory separately. dmcrypt works on block devices, so a single home partition would

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 13:07, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/12 12:45, Michael Mol wrote: I hope you don't take this as a kind of disrespect, but this really feels more like administrator error than tool error. As someone else

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread .
Has the proprietary driver ever been in use on your system... No. I've updated xf86-video-nouveau and libdrm. Same result. The output of 'lspci -k' might give you a hint. What are you trying to say? lspci -k: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/528934/

Re: [gentoo-user] git protocol

2012-01-02 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 02 January 2012 14:11:56 Stéphane Guedon wrote: Hi again I am setting up a git repository using gentoo gitosis. I can push well from my git repo to the server. But when I want to fetch the repo from the server to another computer using the git protocol

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Dale
Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/02/2012 11:25 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Look at it this way: with emergepackage you tell portage to install a package and add it to world. Period. The package will be installed, no matter whether it’s at the newest version or not. With -u, however, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks exactly like the line above. What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting. Good point, but how does

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.comwrote: On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: snip Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my suggestion about a creating a new user.

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: snip Reading back through this

[gentoo-user] Re: gdb debugging of small system built with catalyst

2012-01-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 02 January 2012 04:09:10 Kfir Lavi wrote: I'm now struggling connecting eclipse to debugging remote the target. If someone have some insight for me, I'll be happy to hear it. http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=debuggers

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: x SNIP Okay, so how do I change the group for a

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 01/02/12 14:27, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mathurin
. ivd...@gmail.com writes: Has the proprietary driver ever been in use on your system... No. I've updated xf86-video-nouveau and libdrm. Same result. The output of 'lspci -k' might give you a hint. What are you trying to say? lspci -k: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/528934/ Are you by

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/02/12 14:27, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/02/12

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread .
Are you by any chance disabling KMS on boot? If not then I'm not sure where the problem is. How to check this?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:29:57 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: That works for the case where the software is managed by portage, which is likely 99.% of what's on Gentoo systems worldwide. It doesn't work however for the odd case where I write some little program which requires a library (ta-lib

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:55:19 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: New behavior: user error permanently breaks your world file. It is not permanently broken, that implies it would stop the system working. It is merely damaged, and repairable. It may take a little effort to repair, but that will help

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:32:34 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of? smartmontools -- Neil Bothwick C Error #011: First C Program, huh? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:22:05 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to colleen. So how do I fix this? /dev/pts is root:root here. The files within it are user:tty,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 03:50 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:55:19 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: New behavior: user error permanently breaks your world file. It is not permanently broken, that implies it would stop the system working. It is merely damaged, and repairable. It may take

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:33:43 -0500 Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/02/2012 11:16 AM, Michael Mol wrote: Fine for your home PC, doesn't cut it on servers. I have the following in one of my world files: dev-php/PEAR-Mail dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 04:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: cocktail Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you want here. Unfortunately it only works smoothly on first emerge (later on you have to dig through dep graphs to find the full dep list): First run emerge -p to find all the packages that will be

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:11:03 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you want here. Unfortunately it only works smoothly on first emerge (later on you have to dig through dep graphs to find the full dep list): As it is only used to support non-portage installs,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:08:44 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: It is not permanently broken, that implies it would stop the system working. It is merely damaged, and repairable. It may take a little effort to repair, but that will help you remember to be more careful in future. No one has

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:18:23 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Requires time travel, not a solution! Fine. Stick with your broken system and ignore any suggestions to either repair the damage you have already done or to avoid future damage. Blame it all on the portage devs and demand a refund!

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