[gentoo-user] Re: kernel choices for booting gentoo as guest in vbox vm

80x24 writes: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:44 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Installing gentoo as guest into vbox vm on solaris-11 (openindiana) >> HOST >> gentoo-17 >> VBox 5.2.6 >> Kernel 4.15.0 >> >> My first boot resulted in resulted in a kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel choices for booting gentoo as guest in vbox vm

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Installing gentoo as guest into vbox vm on solaris-11 (openindiana) > HOST > gentoo-17 > VBox 5.2.6 > Kernel 4.15.0 > > My first boot resulted in resulted in a kernel panic... not able to > mount root. > > I checked my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 13:47:57 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > And while we're at it (grin), 'e.g.' has the same force as 'etc', > so it's duplicating effort to write 'e.g. fire, flood etc'. etc is from the Latin et cetera, meaning "I couldn't be bothered thinking of any more". -- Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

180201 Grant Edwards wrote: > You also use e.g. when giving multiple examples. To quote Grammar Girl. > "I like card games, e.g. bridge and crazy eights. > "Some people in life suffer misfortunes, e.g. fire, flood, >earthquake or a meteor strike." And while we're at it (grin), 'e.g.' has

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > > IMHO that makes the name of the "/etc" directory all that much more > entertaining. As in Dennis R. and Ken T. couldn't be bothered to come up > with more directory names than they had, e.g. /bin /lib /boot /var

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I've been seeing some confusion recently about the abbreviations e.g. and > i.e. Their meanings are: > > E.g.Exempli gratia - Latin for "for the sake of example"; > I.e.Id est

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 13:12:07 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > Well, as long as we're explaining grammar, I'll elaborate a tiny bit > more since a lot of people (including native English speakers) get > these wrong. [snip] > I figured that would make > the example more confusion which would defeat the

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On 2018-02-01, Rich Freeman wrote: > Well, as long as we're explaining grammar, I'll elaborate a tiny bit > more since a lot of people (including native English speakers) get > these wrong. > > e.g is used when giving one example when many could have used. You also use e.g.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On 02/01/2018 11:50 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: etc is from the Latin et cetera, meaning "I couldn't be bothered thinking of any more". ~chuckle~ IMHO that makes the name of the "/etc" directory all that much more entertaining. As in Dennis R. and Ken T. couldn't be bothered to come up with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel choices for booting gentoo as guest in vbox vm

Hello, On Thu, 01 Feb 2018, Harry Putnam wrote: >I did get a screenshot but it is very limited showing only a couple >dozen lines of the boot messages. (attached at the end.) Still helps: device 8,65 is /dev/sde1. Check on that ;) E.g. in the fstab inside the initrd ... And keeping the initrd

[gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

Hello list, [Far off topic] I've been seeing some confusion recently about the abbreviations e.g. and i.e. Their meanings are: E.g.Exempli gratia - Latin for "for the sake of example"; I.e.Id est - Latin for "that is". HTH. I'll ge back to sleep now.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 06:55:30PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 13:12:07 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > Well, as long as we're explaining grammar, I'll elaborate a tiny bit > > more since a lot of people (including native English speakers) get > > these wrong. > [snip] > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On 2018.02.01 17:52, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: [snip...] PS.: As a non-native, I always found e.g. and i.e. easy to keep apart because when you say "e.g." as a word without the dots, it becomes "eg", which, phonetically, is the start of the word "example". A non-native speaker of English,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

180201 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 13:47:57 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: >> And while we're at it (grin), 'e.g.' has the same force as 'etc', >> so it's duplicating effort to write 'e.g. fire, flood etc'. > 'etc' is from the Latin 'et cetera', > meaning "I couldn't be bothered thinking

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 16:17:10 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > The Romans were very practical people who didn't waste time or effort, > but got on with the job & built an empire which lasted 500 years . built an empire THAT lasted 500 years -- Neil Bothwick This virus requires Microsoft Windows

[gentoo-user] Re: A little help for non-native English speakers

On 2018-02-01 18:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I figured that would make the example more confusion which would > > defeat the purpose. > And don't get me started on people using "which" when they should be using > "that". > > (In this case, which is correct but it should have a preceding

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 14:45:15 -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > I figured that would make the example more confusion which would > > > defeat the purpose. > > > And don't get me started on people using "which" when they should be > > using "that". > > > > (In this case, which is correct but it

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On 2018-02-01, Jack wrote: > On 2018.02.01 17:52, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > [snip...] >> PS.: As a non-native, I always found e.g. and i.e. easy to keep apart >> because when you say "e.g." as a word without the dots, it becomes >> "eg", which, phonetically,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:47:57 GMT Philip Webb wrote: > 180201 Grant Edwards wrote: > > You also use e.g. when giving multiple examples. To quote Grammar Girl. > > > > "I like card games, e.g. bridge and crazy eights. > > "Some people in life suffer misfortunes, e.g. fire, flood, > >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Fri, 02 Feb 2018 00:41:29 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > 9/10 for effort, though, as my Dad might have said. :) > > (He was a teacher, and he never gave 10/10 for anything because, he > said, surely there must always be some room for improvement. You see > what we children had to cope

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 06:05:35PM -0500, Jack wrote: > On 2018.02.01 17:52, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > [snip...] > > PS.: As a non-native, I always found e.g. and i.e. easy to keep apart > > because when you say "e.g." as a word without the dots, it becomes > > "eg", which, phonetically, is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 23:39:13 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > The Romans were very practical people who didn't waste time or > > > effort, but got on with the job & built an empire which lasted 500 > > > years . > > > > built an empire THAT lasted 500 years > > Nope. Philip was right

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 23:34:11 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > A non-native speaker of English, or a non-native speaker of Latin? The two are not mutually exclusive. > Are there any native speakers of Latin? There appear to be plenty in Oxford, and the UK government. -- Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 02 Feb 2018 00:41:29 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Good for him. 10/10 means "well done, but you're never going to get any > better". A depressing concept :( > More like, "well done, and you will get better,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:12:07 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I've been seeing some confusion recently about the abbreviations e.g. > > and > > i.e. Their meanings are: > > > > E.g.Exempli gratia -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Friday, 2 February 2018 00:04:07 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 23:39:13 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > The Romans were very practical people who didn't waste time or > > > > effort, but got on with the job & built an empire which lasted 500 > > > > years . > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Fri, 02 Feb 2018 00:36:00 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > The rule of thumb I was taught is that if you can dispense with the > > second part without significantly changing the meaning, use which, > > otherwise use that. > > I agree. You haven't consulted Fowler though, I see. (Drat!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:24:11 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 16:17:10 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > > The Romans were very practical people who didn't waste time or effort, > > but got on with the job & built an empire which lasted 500 years . > > built an empire THAT lasted

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:52:14 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > PS.: As a non-native, I always found e.g. and i.e. easy to keep apart > because when you say "e.g." as a word without the dots, it becomes "eg", > which, phonetically, is the start of the word "example". Aargh! No, no, no.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On 2018.02.01 18:34, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2018-02-01, Jack wrote: > On 2018.02.01 17:52, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > [snip...] >> PS.: As a non-native, I always found e.g. and i.e. easy to keep apart >> because when you say "e.g." as a word without the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > [Far off topic] Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Friday, 2 February 2018 00:25:43 GMT R0b0t1 wrote: > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > [Far off topic] > > Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive > purposes Very funny, but I'm sorry to say I stopped reading at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Fri, Feb 02 2018, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I agree. You haven't consulted Fowler though, I see. (Drat! Where's my copy > when I need it?) He says the difference is whether we have a defining > clause. If what follows actually defines the subject of the sentence, use > "that". Otherwise it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 23:48:19 -0500 allan gottlieb wrote: "The ice cream that is in the fridge is cold" restricts the assertion of coldness to the ice cream in the fridge as opposed to some other ice cream. …and that completes the circle ;-) "The ice cream id est in the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On 02/01/2018 11:55 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: MUPHRY'S LAW: The principle that any criticism of the writing of others will itself contain at least one grammatical error. And don't get me started on people using "which" when they should be using "that". (In this case, which is correct but it

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel choices for booting gentoo as guest in vbox vm

David Haller writes: [...] >>I've never used genkernel, but from what I understand it builds >>everything + the kitchen sink.. so should get the right drivers >>hopefully. > > Actually no, you can quite easily configure it to just the tedious > work. First, thanks for the

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel choices for booting gentoo as guest in vbox vm

Alexander Kapshuk writes: [...] >> Can anyone tell me what they used to allow gentoo in vbox to boot? >> >> >> > Did you enable the recommended kernel config options as suggested here [1]? > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/VirtualBox I did go thru that page and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel choices for booting gentoo as guest in vbox vm

2018-02-01 7:57 GMT-06:00 Harry Putnam : > I did get a screenshot but it is very limited showing only a couple > dozen lines of the boot messages. (attached at the end.) > The kernel is not able to mount root. What filesystem did you use? If you used something that is not

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On 02/02/2018 00:52, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 06:55:30PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 13:12:07 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Well, as long as we're explaining grammar, I'll elaborate a tiny bit more since a lot of people (including native English

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On 02/02/2018 09:47, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 09:34:06AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: PS.: As a non-native, I always found e.g. and i.e. easy to keep apart because when you say "e.g." as a word without the dots, it becomes "eg", which, phonetically, is the start of the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 09:34:06AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > PS.: As a non-native, I always found e.g. and i.e. easy to keep apart > > because when you say "e.g." as a word without the dots, it becomes "eg", > > which, phonetically, is the start of the word "example". > > > > As a native

Re: [gentoo-user] rust 1.23.0 fails to install

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 04:27:18 -0500, Floyd Anderson wrote: > > Hi John, > > On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 16:58:56 -0500 > John Covici wrote: > > Hi. In my world update Rust 1.23.0 failed to install with the > > following error: > > install: installing component 'rustc' > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] rust 1.23.0 fails to install

> > > Maybe a resync for dev-lang/rust-1.23.0-r1::gentoo helps. But > > before you emerge, be aware of bug #646092 [1] (where I also ran > > into). For me [2] solves the described issue. > > > > > > References: > > - [1] > > - [2]

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel choices for booting gentoo as guest in vbox vm

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:44 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Installing gentoo as guest into vbox vm on solaris-11 (openindiana) > HOST > gentoo-17 > VBox 5.2.6 > Kernel 4.15.0 > > My first boot resulted in resulted in a kernel panic... not able to > mount root. > Maybe taking a