[gentoo-user] Re: ....Gentoo update killed Gentoo update?

2017-10-04 Thread Martin Vaeth
Wolfram Schlich wrote: > > Use this for a quick fix until it's sorted out upstream: It is not an upstream issue. You can use the ebuild from the mv overlay which does not patch the upstream build system.

[gentoo-user] Re: ....Gentoo update killed Gentoo update?

2017-10-04 Thread Martin Vaeth
Wolfram Schlich wrote: > So, you (also) are effectively the maintainer There was some dispute. It seems that now my requests are ignored: https://bugs.gentoo.org/628512

[gentoo-user] Re: is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread Martin Vaeth
David Haller wrote: > autotools is _by far_the best both from a users and a packagers view. I do not agree. Its main advantage is that it is compatible with most existing unix systems (but I am already not so sure whether this also holds if you also want to compile for windows, powerpc, etc.) >

[gentoo-user] Re: is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-23 Thread Martin Vaeth
David Haller wrote: > > Mow is that meson_options.txt > maintained? Automatically or by hand? If the former: yay! No, the former would be bad since it would require an analogue of an "autoreconf" run which is what meson avoids. > If the latter, treat it as non-existant... I think you misunderst

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge --info

2017-12-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Adam Carter wrote: > so why have it if you force it off? One thing is the ebuild and the other is the profile: It might be different in a different profile.

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile 17.0, PIE, USE="pic", C(XX)FLAGS "-fpic", "-fPIC"?

2018-01-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Walter Dnes wrote: > Question: does PIE imply pic/PIC? The code is somewhat different, but in principle yes. > I.e does a PIE build also require USE="pic" Assembler code which breaks pic will also break pie, so better do not use that code. > and CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS="-fpic -fPIC"? These are usua

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 7.3 + kernel 4.15 = spectre_v2 fixed

2018-01-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > Well, if you're running a local process that is trying to attack you, > you've been compromised already, imo. By your definition, you are compromised if you surf to the wrong webpage with enabled javascript. While this is arguably true, I would distinguish between va

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 7.3 + kernel 4.15 = spectre_v2 fixed

2018-01-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Yeah, that's the kind of software that benefits from the Spectre > mitigation patches. Like browsers, virtualization or emulation software, > the kernel, etc. No. It's software like gnupg, encfs, openssl and all the library they use (glibc, glib, X etc) which need these

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 7.3 + kernel 4.15 = spectre_v2 fixed

2018-01-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > For example, if you don't trust Firefox, don't install Firefox. But you > *do* trust Firefox. What you don't trust is the JS code Firefox is > executing. That's an artificial distinction, because it is actually firefox which is executing the code during the interpreta

[gentoo-user] Re: Would unmerging xorg-server certainly help it?

2018-03-25 Thread Martin Vaeth
Akater wrote: > I just tried > >> emerge --ask --verbose --update --oneshot x11-base/xorg-proto x11-proto/s= > crnsaverproto > > > (x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.2-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > >x11-proto/scrnsaverproto It should be scrnsaverproto-1.2.2-r2 which is pulled in. Mayb

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dale wrote: > > I been holding off on upgrading Firefox. Basically, it breaks addons > that I just can't go without. Tab groups and some other tab utilities > are among them. Basically the situation is the following: >=firefox-57 support so-called WebExtensions which intentionally are less power

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > There two reasons for which I have switched to waterfox: Privacy and > memory. > > About:config and search for "telemetry" Telemetry can be switched off. > Or check how many URLS are configured under about:config. It is in "about:config", so they can be switched off.

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-03-31 08:18, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> As usual, there is the balance >> "convenience" (old plugins) <-> "security". >> In the beginning (say, until firefox-52 is no longer supported >> upstream),

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-04-01 09:15, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> noscript, ublock-origin, and https-everywhere (maybe for privacy also >> coupled with decentraleyes, duckduckgo{-privacy-esesntials}, >> canvasblocker, skip-redirect) I had forgottten to mention: These

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Bill Kenworthy wrote: > I use the palemoon overlay. There is also the octopus overlay. Anyway, both can only react to upstream. > builds fine with gcc-6.4 Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5, and as somebody familiar with the code posted somewhere, the reasons are quite

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only >> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers, >> and any forks of their browsers which diverge more than a patchset >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
Walter Dnes wrote: > Mind you, the Pale Moon team may not > have the staffing level required to write a new compiler, maintain a > politically correct "community", integrate real-time-chat into the > browser, integrate "Pocket" into the browser, rewrite the GUI every so > often, yada, yada, yada.

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 02/04/18 13:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Bill Kenworthy wrote: >>> I use the palemoon overlay. >> There is also the octopus overlay. >> Anyway, both can only react to upstream. >> >>> builds fine with gcc-6.4 >> Yes, bu

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
Daniel Frey wrote: > On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> >> BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters > > I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message After every "." there is a non-breakable space inserted. I guess this is an attempt of some editor to non-french-space ASCII t

[gentoo-user] frenchspacing (was: Firefox and addons no longer supported question)

2018-04-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 2 April 2018 21:50:30 BST Philip Webb wrote: >> 180402 Dale wrote: >> > After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one. >> > Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. >> > I only put one after a comma tho. >> >> That is co

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge colors and light background

2018-04-20 Thread Martin Vaeth
James Cloos wrote: > For eix, I have this in a file in /etc/eixrc/: > > BG0=none > BG1=none > BG2=none > BG3=none If you only use colorscheme 3 you need only BG3=none > COLORSCHEME0=3 > COLORSCHEME1=3 The former (...0=3) should have no effect at all if your TERM is recognized by eix as 256-colo

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-08 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > > Higher-level languages will probably become nearly immune to Spectre just > as most are nearly immune to buffer overflows. Quite the opposite: Higher-level languages *always* do some checks for array-length etc, and it is the _checks_ which are vulnerable. You can only mak

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 4:19 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> > >> > Higher-level languages will probably become nearly immune to Spectre > just >> > as most are nearly immune to buffer overflows. > >> Qui

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:18 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> Which would be the horribly slow case I mentioned above. > > I'm saying that high-level languages can be made safe. > > You're saying that making high-level languages safe comes at a

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-10 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 1:34 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> As a simple example, assume that you have read a password file >> into a string of your language and now access a single password. >> No matter, how you mark the end of the passwo

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo and OSS(4)

2018-05-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
Klaus Ethgen wrote: > - - What does that -oss in brackets mean? It means that it is masked in use.mask or package.use.mask In your case the file /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/package.use.mask explains the reason. > - - How can I force usage of oss In your case: Put into /etc/portage/profi

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Davyd McColl wrote: > > 1) `sync-depth` has been deprecated (should now use `clone-depth`) The reason is that sync-depth was meant to be effective for every sync, i.e. that with sync-depth=1 the clone should stay shallow. However, it turned out that this caused frequent/occassional errors with gi

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > > Biggest issue with git signature verification is that right now it > will still do a full pull/checkout before verifying Biggest issue is that git signature happens by the developer who last commited which means that in practice you need dozens/hundreds of keys. No package

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[2]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > > git has the advantage that it can just read the current HEAD and from > that know exactly what commits are missing, so there is way less > effort spent figuring out what changed. I don't know the exact protocol, but I would assume that git is even more efficient: I would a

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Davyd McColl wrote: > @Rich: if I understand the process correctly, the same commits are > pushed to infra and GitHub by the CI bot? Yes, the repositories are always identical (up to a few seconds delay). > I ask because prior to the GitHub incident, I didn't have signature > verification enable

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 1:34 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >> Biggest issue is that git signature happens by the developer who >> last commited which means that in practice you need dozens/hundreds >> of keys. > > This is untrue. [...] >

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 1:51 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Davyd McColl wrote: >> >> > I ask because prior to the GitHub incident, I didn't have signature >> > verification enabled >> >> Currently, it is not practical to change

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-08 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: >> I was speaking about gentoo's git repository, of course >> (the one which was attacked on github), not about a Frankensteined one >> with metadata history filling megabytes of disk space unnecessarily. >> Who has that much disk space to waste? > > Doesn't portage create that

[gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-08 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > emerge --sync works just fine if > there are uncommitted changes in your repository, whether they are > indexed or otherwise. You are right. It seems to be somewhat "random" when git pull refuses to work and when not. I could not detect a common scheme. Maybe this has mainly

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 6 July 2018 06:34:01 BST Davyd McColl wrote: > >> 1) `sync-depth` has been deprecated (should now use `clone-depth`) > > [...] And why is the recent news item referring to instructions > to use sync-depth? Things have changed with portage-2.3.42: sync-depth is a

[gentoo-user] Re: Please help with `C compiler cannot create executables'

2018-07-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
Akater wrote: > >> configure:3753: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=native -O2 -pipe >> -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed conftest.c >&5 This should succeed. So the problem is probably this: >> cc1: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdc-predef.h: Permission denied It seems that you have this file but that

[gentoo-user] Re: eix settings for searching all layman overlays

2013-07-08 Thread Martin Vaeth
Thanasis wrote: > > So in /etc/eixrc/00-eixrc I have set > KEEP_VIRTUALS=true > REMOTE_DEFAULT=1 With the current default setting of separate databases for the local eix cache (normally /var/cache/eix/portage.eix) and for the remote eix cache (/var/cache/eix/remote.eix), KEEP_VIRTUALS=true makes

[gentoo-user] Re: eix settings for searching all layman overlays

2013-07-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Thanasis wrote: > > So, if I understand correctly, I _don't_ need any settings, and I should > remove both KEEP_VIRTUALS and REMOTE_DEFAULT, and just use the -R option You don't need KEEP_VIRTUALS. Whether you prefer REMOTE_DEFAULT or not is up to you. This has nothing to do with the necessity t

[gentoo-user] Re: eix settings for searching all layman overlays

2013-07-11 Thread Martin Vaeth
Thanasis wrote: > on 07/10/2013 09:38 AM Martin Vaeth wrote the following: >> >> This has nothing to do with the necessity to call "eix-remote add" >> after eix-sync With eix-0.29.0 which just entered the tree, eix-sync will by default do this for you, so you us

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd installation location

2013-09-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
pk wrote: > > Seriously, boot-critical would be something that the system cannot *boot > without*, which belongs in /. Everything else should be in /usr, i.e. > non-boot-critical. How hard is it to start *non-boot* (system) critical > *after* boot (things like sshd)? I do that today... For somebo

[gentoo-user] Re: Where to put advanced routing configuration?

2013-10-11 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > And my counterarguments: > > 1. The iptables-restore syntax is uglier and harder to read. > > 2. You get better error reporting calling iptables repeatedly. > > 3. The published interface will never change; iptables-restore reads an > input language whose specification

[gentoo-user] scripted iptables-restore (was: Where to put advanced routing configuration?)

2013-10-13 Thread Martin Vaeth
>> 5. You can't script iptables-restore! > > Well, actually you can script iptables-restore. For those who are interested: net-firewall/firewall-mv from the mv overlay (available over layman) now provides a separate firewall-scripted.sh which can be conveniently used for such scripting.

[gentoo-user] Re: Where to put advanced routing configuration?

2013-10-13 Thread Martin Vaeth
shawn wilson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> >> 1. The iptables-restore syntax is uglier and harder to read. > > I don't get this - the syntax is [...] > What am I missing or how is this uglier? Argument separation (e.g. if you have arguments with spaces); i

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-13 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 10/13/2013 06:08 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: >>>> 5. You can't script iptables-restore! >>> >>> Well, actually you can script iptables-restore. >> >> For those who are interested: >> net-firewall/firewall-mv from

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-13 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> [...] >>> If you have a million rules and you need to wipe/reload them all >>> frequently you're probably doing something wrong to begin with. >> >> I don't know how this is related with the discussion. >> The main advantage of using iptables-restore is avoidance of >>

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Port knocking is cute, but imparts no extra security. It does, for instance if you use it to protect sshd and sshd turns out to be vulnerable; remember e.g. the security disaster with Debian. > A better, secure way to achieve the same goal is with OpenVPN. Using yet an

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore (was: Where to put advanced routing configuration?)

2013-10-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
Pandu Poluan wrote: > > Thanks, Martin! I was about to create my own preprocessor, but I'll check > out yours first. If it's what I had planned, may I contribute, too? Sure, patches are welcome.

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
William Kenworthy wrote: > > If you are going to go to this bother ... why not use shorewall, create When I checked for scripts creating rules, none fulfilled my needs. (I do not know whether I checked shorewall at this time). For instance, instead of dropping most packets, I want to reject them

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 10/14/2013 07:49 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >> Using yet another service with possible holes to protect a sshd? >> In this case, I would like port knocking at least for this OpenVPN. > > The sensitive parts of OpenVPN are audited

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
Tanstaafl wrote: >> Like passwords, these sequences should better not stay the same for >> too long... > > Forced changing of passwords I agreee: To do this to protect *other* users will not work. It's a different thing if you use it for protection of your own data...

[gentoo-user] Re: Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Martin Vaeth
Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Minor updates (5.x.y -> 5.x.y+1) do not need any rebuilds > or reinstallations of modules. This is at most partially correct: At least, after the update, the install directories change; here from /usr/lib/perl5/{vendor_perl,}/5.20.1 to /usr/lib/perl5/{vendor_perl,}/

[gentoo-user] Re: Is perl broken?

2015-04-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> Moreover, I didn't check before the rebuild, but after >> the rebuild there is no 5.20.1 in @INC. > > Sure about this? I checked this, of course. But now I realize that the path is *added* to @INC (even to the perl -V output!) when I re-create it...

[gentoo-user] Re: Is this a new kernel bug? Or not.

2015-04-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
walt wrote: > > it tries to read from the floppy and prints an error message to the console No. The kernel does not do this. It is either udev or some other part of your init system which does this. > "mount" at a bash prompt, and then spams the screen > with errors about /dev/fd0. And again it

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-25 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > A novice asks the master Emerge: > "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?" Did the novice ask the correct question about the life, the world, and everything? Your mantra should be emerge -NaDu @world (--with-bdeps=y in EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS in

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc-5.0 ?

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > Now that 5.1 is in Portage (masked), you should keep in mind that > emerging it will result in the 5.1 libraries being used, even if you > keep 4.9 (or 4.8) as the default compiler. If you should really get problems with this, you can manually remove the corresponding

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:49:09 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> nvidia legacy drivers? >> In the latter case you are doomed... >> I also had to throw out recently an nvidia card because of this. > > Was nouveau not an option. No. It seems,

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > But the same script states: > > [I] x11-base/xorg-server > Available versions: 1.12.4-r4(0/1.12.4) [m]1.15.2-r2(0/1.15.2) The [m] means that you masked newer versions of xorg-server locally. If you remove that local mask, the blockers should be gone. Do you have

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
Philip Webb wrote: > >> If you're willing to wait an hour, it might be able to come up >> with a list of ways you could resolve a conflict, but basically >> all of them will be wrong, eg suggestion #1, uninstall everything. > > Really, this is a flippant response to a serious issue, No. It is how

[gentoo-user] Re: CFLAGs for kernel compilation

2015-04-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > That's why kernel makes sure that no floating point instructions > sneaks in using CFLAGS, you may see a lot of -mno-${intrucion_set} > flags when running make -V. So it should be sufficient that the kernel does not use "float" or "double", shouldn't it? I can hardly i

[gentoo-user] Re: writing man pages (gentoo conventions)

2015-06-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: > > So instead of my spew of ascii information files, I'm now composing > 'man pages' mostly using txt2man. If you want to avoid learning *roff, there is also e.g. pod from perl which gives you simple basic markup functionality and can output in man page format (and other format). Fo

[gentoo-user] Re: writing man pages (gentoo conventions)

2015-06-04 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: > > Pod leaves me with too many choices. Can you narrow it down? pod (and pod2*) is part of perl. Very likely it is already installed. man perlpod (or "perldoc pod::perlpod" if the former does not work on your system). > eix latex returns too many choices. What is the best one(s) to

[gentoo-user] Re: so many TeX packages ...

2015-06-10 Thread Martin Vaeth
hw wrote: > > there are quite a few TeX/LaTeX packages available. emerge texlive with USE=latexextra > print labels on label printers texdoc labels

[gentoo-user] Re: so many TeX packages ...

2015-06-11 Thread Martin Vaeth
hw wrote: >> texdoc labels > > This seems to be for pre-defined labels like you get them in A4 size? I have no experience with it; for my purposes a simple manual setting was always enough. There are of course more (La)TeX packages for labels, probably most already installed with USE=latexextra.

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

2015-06-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: > This is why I was looking for a 'tool' or script that would allow me > to easily browse the default package listings for the different > arch types with a default profile. If you only want to see the @system set of $PROFILE, use PORTAGE_PROFILE=/usr/portage/profiles/$PROFILE4 eix

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

2015-06-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > PORTAGE_PROFILE=/usr/portage/profiles/$PROFILE eix -c --system > > The 4 is an interloper. Yep, a typo: Next key to the E when one finger presses "shift"... Although once PORTAGE_PROFILE was supposed to become a variable in make.conf, it seems to not have made it. eix st

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

2015-06-18 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: > # PORTAGE_PROFILE=/usr/portage/profiles/arch/arm/armv7a/eapi This is not a directory. If PORTAGE_PROFILE is not a readable directory, eix falls back to the symlink

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

2015-06-18 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: > Martin Vaeth mvath.de> writes: > > >> James tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> > # PORTAGE_PROFILE=/usr/portage/profiles/arch/arm/armv7a/eapi > >> This is not a directory. [...] > > How do I determine [...] Choose the directory to which you

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

2015-06-18 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: > > # PORTAGE_PROFILE=/usr/portage/profiles/arch/arm/armv7a eix -c --system > No matches found. Obviously, this profile contains no @system packages. Which appears natural for an embedded profile...

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

2015-06-22 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: > There is no dir '/var/portage' on my system. Yet this command works fine: > > "PORTAGE_PROFILE=/var/portage/profiles/default/linux/arm/13.0/armv7a eix -c > --system " > > Strange, to say the least. Not at all strange: Again, PORTAGE_PROFILE points to a non-directory, so it is ignor

[gentoo-user] Re: eix

2015-06-29 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: > > use to match the string against all three: > (1) gentoo tree /usr/portage > (2) the /var/lib/layman/ overlays I had installed and manage with layman > (3) my /usr/local/portage local ebuild placed in /usr/local/portage/ > > Now, only option (1) shows the embuilds Very likely yo

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > I tried it, for exactly 10 seconds. My home/end keys didn't work. The default configuration is horrible, and they won't change it since compatibility with stone age and all zsh features switched off is a design goal of the defaults. I already wrote on their list that

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > As a > scripting language, Bash is probably better This is not true, either: Although finally bash took some of the features of zsh (arrays, regular expression matching, etc.) there are still many features missing in bash (extended globbing, many variable and array operatio

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-10 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > In one sub-thread we've so far managed to cover: > > Bash vs Zsh > Vim vs Emacs > Perl vs Python not to forget: POSIX vs Bash > What are your thoughts on KDE, kernel modules or USE=3D"-*"? ;-) Substitute "kernel modules" by Gnome (incl. systemd, policykit) and add topic

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-10 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 10/07/15 18:00, Gevisz wrote: >> bindkey '^[[7~' beginning-of-line # Home (xterm) >> bindkey '^[[8~' end-of-line# End (xterm) > > lol... are these guys serious? > > It's 2015... ... and yet the way of handling special keys i

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-11 Thread Martin Vaeth
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > I cannot see, so I use speakup or orca to read the screen I have no experience whether zsh is appropriate for this. Certainly zshrc-mv is not written with this case in mind, and probably you should refrain from using zsh-syntax-highlighting or auto-fu-zsh (The dup

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-11 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > I really don't have time to learn arcane settings anymore. That's why it is good that you can adapt the shell completely to your needs: My opinion is that the computer must adapt to *my* habits and not vice versa. > If it doesn't work out of the box I don't see the

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-12 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I agree. Being able to customise is good, but the defaults should be > sensible and appealing to new users. Yes, but not only new users but also not breaking expectations of old users are important - it is a subtle balance, and shells tend to be conservative here (bash is

[gentoo-user] Re: zsh: not so bad?

2015-07-12 Thread Martin Vaeth
Andrew Tselischev wrote: > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 06:52:35PM -0700, walt wrote: [...] >> http://wiki.redbrick.dcu.ie/mw/Account_Customisation_(zsh) Note that this does not activate all features e.g. concerning completion: You can have files displayed in your custom "ls" colors in the "selection"

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-13 Thread Martin Vaeth
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >> This is not true, either: Although finally bash took some of the >> features of zsh (arrays, regular expression matching, etc.) there >> are still many features missing in bash (extended globbing, many >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-13 Thread Martin Vaeth
Joerg Schilling wrote: > > bash vs. POSIX, as bash tried to ignore long existing > rules just because the bash maintainer did not understand them. Are there really several? I know only one such example: bash insists on compound commands ("{ ... }" or "( ... )") for the function body while accordi

[gentoo-user] Re: zsh: not so bad?

2015-07-13 Thread Martin Vaeth
Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > Only issue I could not find a solution to is tab completion after '=', > for example: > > xxx --file= > > This will not complete files, while it will be nice if it does. For standard commands, it works as it should. For instance, tar --file= chmod --reference= dd if= all

[gentoo-user] Re: zsh: not so bad?

2015-07-14 Thread Martin Vaeth
Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > I do not want to write completion for every command out there. For most commands there already do exist completion functions. Essentially, it is only your own scripts for which you have to do it, and this does not take a lot of time when you write the scripts anyway... In

[gentoo-user] Re: Resizing a FAT partition?

2015-07-31 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > I took a look at parted and the resize command Use a

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior

2015-08-02 Thread Martin Vaeth
walt wrote: > > Oops, journalctl tells me that systemd-networkd is segfaulting > repeatedly during boot. systemd has become very picky on cflags; e.g. -DNDEBUG and friends cause strange behaviour and segfaults.

[gentoo-user] Re: Some update yesterday broke my system - which one

2015-08-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > It turned out that something has installed /lib/udev > while removing the symlink /lib -> /lib64 on my machine. > Therefore /lib did contains nothing but udev This sounds like a very serious bug of portage or of the ebuild; but it did not happen here. It is probably cor

[gentoo-user] Re: installation failure

2015-08-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
jfmxl wrote: > I wrote a coupla days ago, using the guest interface at the website ... I do not know what you mean by "guest interface". One right place for your support question would be the gentoo forum "Installing Gentoo": https://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-14.html > but the kernel failed

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

2015-09-27 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > With dynamic deps, portage will scan (that is, execute) all of the > ebuilds for installed packages that could affect the dependency graph. This is not correct. This data is already stored in metadata/ (or in /var/cache/edb, depending on the backend), and just has to b

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

2015-09-27 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > There really wasn't much loud objection when the proposal came up > again last week This does not mean that everybody agreed. However, all arguments had been exchanged before, so repeating them would just have been pointless: Eventually a decision had to be made, and I am co

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

2015-09-27 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: > > Basically from my point of view, something like TUP [1] is needed so > that at dependency check time you only list files that need > attention (linking, loading, compiling etc) thus speeding up the > update processes for the Package Manager (portage). This is a misunderstanding (

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

2015-09-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > > Sure, but the portage team can really only dictate the upstream > defaults of portage, not tree policy. As I understand, they intend to remove non-dynamic deps (if they agreed to not implement it properly for sub-slots, this makes sense). So we are not speaking about defa

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

2015-09-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
James wrote: >[cr > DAG's All this can work only if you reflect the complete history in the DAG. Such approaches had been discussed and eliminated as unrealistic: You do not want to keep the history forever; the data will always grow and eventually be too much. Moreover, there can be overlays whi

[gentoo-user] Re: THE SCREAM.

2015-09-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
wrote: > Alan Grimes wrote: > >> You know that famous Van Gough painting? That kinda haunts you because >> it's absolutely silent... > > "The Scream" is painted by Edvard Munch. Van Gogh (not Gough!) is well > known for his paintings of sunflowers and cypresses Doesn't matter in this context: B

[gentoo-user] Re: persistent /run/* ownership/permissions

2015-10-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 07/10/2015 18:27, Grant wrote: >> I have to chown munin:nginx and chmod g+x on directory /run/munin/ >> after every reboot. The munin list suggests altering the initscript >> but is there a better way? > > There are ways, but I wouldn't call them better. The way to do i

[gentoo-user] Re: persistent /run/* ownership/permissions

2015-10-13 Thread Martin Vaeth
Grant wrote: >> >> The way to do it nowadays would be by placing a file with the content >> d /run/munin 0775 munin nginx >> into /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d (if done by the distribution) or into >> /etc/tmpfiles.d (if this is only needed for your special setup). > > Will do. Is that leading "d " suppose

[gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

2015-11-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
Alan Mackenzie wrote: >!!! /usr/portage/sys-apps/busybox/busybox-.ebuild >!!! Got: 8493 >!!! Expected: 8580 Do you use the default (rsync) for syncing, or have you changed the method? I have the above claimed filesize (8493), but the Manifest I obtained from rsync is correct. Th

[gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

2015-11-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I deleted the busybox directory from the tree then ran emerge --sync. > The error is still there You have the same files that I have. Unfortunately, only now I actually did: $ grep busybox- Manifest EBUILD busybox-.ebuild 8580 [...] ??? I have the same wrong siz

[gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

2015-11-15 Thread Martin Vaeth
Simon Thelen wrote: > I sync from git and none of my Manifests track the ebuilds, so this > could be a thing. No. git has (probably, I didn't check) thin-manifests = true in its metadata/layout.conf, but for rsync this should not be the case for security reasons. I double-checked, and I have inde

[gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

2015-11-16 Thread Martin Vaeth
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > I have thinmanifests=true as specified in some news item or post, I > think this was a mandatory change some time ago using rsync. If you really use rsync/webrsync and not git, this is unlikely: The file containing this line (metadata/layout.conf) should be overri

[gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Martin Vaeth
Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Martin Vaeth, I think he works with the ebuilds of Pale moon No, I don't. I had just reported a few bugs (and suggested some workarounds).

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage spokes again...

2016-12-21 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > sys-apps/systemd required by (virtual/tmpfiles [...] Probably this is your problem: You have apparently stabilized the testing virtual/tmpfiles (or some other package which requires it). virtual/tmpfiles depends (unless you use systemd) on the unstable sys-apps/op

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