[geo] What Would Heidegger Say About Geoengineering? Clive Hamilton | ANTHEM

2014-01-19 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://anthem-group.net/2014/01/18/what-would-heidegger-say-about-geoengineering-clive-hamilton/ What Would Heidegger Say About Geoengineering? Clive Hamilton Abstract: Proposals to respond to climate change by geoengineering the Earth’s climate system, such as by regulating the amount of

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2014-01-19 Thread Charles H. Greene
When we are on the verge of truly catastrophic climate change, I wonder what philosophers of science will offer us as an alternative? Obviously, if they wish to discourage scientists from even exploring possible geoengineering options, they must have alternatives to offer, right? On Jan 18,

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2014-01-19 Thread Ken Caldeira
Let's not start insulting philosophers of science here. I do not believe that most philosophers of science see it as their role to discourage inquiry, but rather see their role as doing things such as analyzing how terms gain meaning and refer to things, how we can establish the truth or falsity

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2014-01-19 Thread Andrew Lockley
Sadly not. As the recent discussions with ETC group of this list shows, having solutions doesn't seem to be a prerequisite for publicly dismissing others'. Seems the concept of 'least worst' option hasn't permeated the climate debate. A On 19 Jan 2014 09:33, Charles H. Greene c...@cornell.edu

Re: [geo] David Keith and Clive Hamilton debate

2014-01-19 Thread John Nissen
Hi Brian, The debate between David Keith and Clive Hamilton seems sterile. Plan A, the agreed-upon best scenario, simply won't work to prevent at least 4 degrees warming. Arguably the carbon budget, touted in AR5, has been spent or very nearly spent already. See this short video from David

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2014-01-19 Thread Brian Cartwright
Thanks, John, for the response. I'm also an advocate of boosting soil carbon with biochar but let me add a couple of comments. As Ron Larsen points out, biochar brings benefits for atmosphere, soil and energy. These should all contribute to providing incentives for its use. In the soil area,

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2014-01-19 Thread William Calvin
But philosophical and scientific approach must watch out for the hazards of reification, as when emissions became a rate when most people think it a quantity. The terms one picks may frame the whole discussion, as has happened with global warming becoming the planet's near-surface air temp

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2014-01-19 Thread Charles H. Greene
Yes, I agree, and no insult was intended to philosophers of science in general. My comments were in response to the particular diatribe that was posted. I do believe that philosophers of science have an responsibility to offer alternatives if they are going to take a stand against certain

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2014-01-19 Thread Ronal W. Larson
List: cc Ken, Charles, Andrew 1. I finally found the full Sept. 2013 paper at http://clivehamilton.com/what-would-heidegger-say-about-geoengineering/ - But you have to find the small “pdf” symbol there. 33 pages with language that is difficult for me as a non-philosopher (e.g. “Being”,

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2014-01-19 Thread Ken Caldeira
Before we concern ourselves too much with channeling Heidegger's ghost, and echo-ing born-again Christians in asking what the great man would do, we might want to keep in mind that Heidegger was a member of the Nazi party and never publicly apologized for having become one.

[geo] Scientists to examine Pacific’s “global chimney” | UCAR - University Corporation for Atmospheric Research

2014-01-19 Thread Andrew Lockley
Poster's note : of interest for several reasons A) offers a possible new transport mechanism for lofting material B) explains basic atmospheric dynamics not currently well understood, and potentially relevant to GE C) use of the gulfstream jet may help test monitoring and delivery technology

[geo] Rapid Soil Production and Weathering in the Western Alps, New Zealand

2014-01-19 Thread Andrew Lockley
Poster's note: of interest to those studying enhanced weathering http://m.sciencemag.org/content/early/2014/01/15/science.1244908.abstract Published Online January 16 2014 Science Express Index Science DOI: 10.1126/science.1244908 Isaac J. Larsen Peter C. Almond Andre Ege John O. Stone David R.

Re: [geo] David Keith and Clive Hamilton debate

2014-01-19 Thread John Nissen
Brian, I absolutely agree with you. We need agitation for CDR with improved food production: from land, lakes and sea. The current wisdom is one track mentality. But it is moving closer to reality, step by step: (1) Reduce CO2 emissions - by each of us reducing our carbon footprint - and