Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

For what it is worth, I completely agree. Lomborg seems to be completely against mitigation. He does not think there is a pressing problem, and while some of his suggestions are definitely worthwhile, geoengineering without mitigation is likely to be disastrous... jon

Re: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

I agree with you, and I only agreed with him on the need for research. In the past Lomborg actually claimed that economists have shown the SRM is a solution to global warming, and I published this in response on RealClimate:

Re: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

Without trying to be ad hominem, I must say that based on all of Lomborg’s publications and talks that I am familiar with, he needs to be viewed as a provocateur, rather than a serious contributor to effective policy. From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com on behalf of Gernot Wagner Date:

Re: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

Agreed -- on the continued disagreement with Lomborg, that is. His framing as "Plan B" is precisely the kind of framing we need to get away from. See e.g. Pete Irvine's excellent recent talk on that

RE: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

I might agree with Lomborg that geoengineering research “might just prove to be Earth’s best backup plan” if he meant it as a backup to aggressive mitigation and adaptation. But Lomborg has long called out mitigation as costly and unnecessary as he does again in this piece (and also, e.g. here

Re: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

I don't agree with that.  We certainly don't understand enough about marine stratocumulus to know where and when and what to spray.  And even if true, it ignores all the associated risks. Alan On 2/24/2022 2:41 PM, Renaud de RICHTER wrote: You are right. I'm curious of this: Research by

Re: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

You are right. I'm curious of this: Research by Copenhagen Consensus shows that just $9 billion spent building 1,900 seawater spraying boats could prevent all of the temperature increase projected in this century. ...//... Le jeu. 24 févr. 2022 à 20:31, Alan Robock ☮ a écrit : > That's not

Re: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

That's not exactly right.  What he wrote is: "We should not commence geo-engineering now, since the technology is not ready and we don't yet know enough about it. But we simply cannot afford to not research it. It might just prove to be Earth's best backup plan." I think we all agree with

[geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

Both SAI and MCB got a strong supporter: Bjorn Lomborg http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202202/12/WS620712e7a310cdd39bc8634f.html?mc_cid=3dc934fe46_eid=2decfaafd5 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group