I invited Herndon to discuss his paper, and this was his response.
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From: J. Marvin Herndon
Date: Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: Invitation to discuss your Indian geoengineering paper on
Metabunk.org
To: Mick West m...@mickwest.com
I'm afraid Current Science has published many articles by Herndon before,
on a variety of his topics: the formation of Earth as a gas giant, denial
of anthropogenic effects on CO2 levels, a nuclear reactor at the center of
the Earth, and now this article on chemtrails. A list of his
contributions
Effectively both. Methane is so much better at trapping heat than CO2 that
even though it has a short lifetime (12 years), the total effect over
longer timeframes is still very large. IPCC AR5 (2013) gives a Global
Warming Potential for methane as 28x that of that of CO2 over 100 years.
AR4 (2007)
The world's largest pump does 150,000 gallons a second, and costs around
$500 Million, and is only pumping a few feet.
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-08/saving-new-orleans-worlds-largest-water-pump
To offset 1 cm of sea level rise, this pump would have to run for 200
years.
We (and I feel that term itself is fallacious, as there is no we) have
never really done a megaproject in the sense described. The phenomena of
ubiquitous fossil fuel use and unsustainable population growth are not
projects in any sense of the word, they are emergent consequences of a
vast complex
Tim Kruger's review is only one page, so can be read in the ReadCube
preview. http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.1038/508457a
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Andrew Lockley
andrew.lock...@gmail.comwrote:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v508/n7497/pdf/508457a.pdf
Climate science:
of the chemtrail theory, but this is the one I've found most
effective.
Mick West
http://contrailscience.com
https://www.metabunk.org/forums/contrails-and-chemtrails.9/
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Ronal W. Larson
rongretlar...@comcast.netwrote:
Ken and list:
1. Very nice job in answering
because it might be something that is needed and we
will want to do it the right way, but also because of the focus it brings
to the issue of climate change. The chemtrail theory greatly muddies the
waters in both these areas, and hence I feel it's an important topic to
debunk.
Regard,
Mick West
I believe Jim is referring to the following invitation to consider
guidance from COP 10 (2010), frequently misinterpreted as a ban.
http://www.cbd.int/decision/cop/default.shtml?id=12299
COP 10 Decision X/33
X/33.Biodiversity and climate change
The Conference of the Parties,
...
8.*Invites*
The media reports seem rather sensationalistic, as if the CIA were to be
using weather control for some kind of weapon. Really it's just part of
their normal geopolitical analysis. They have been engaged for a while, and
had a Center on Climate Change and National Security , which was only
open
of
similar lists.
Mick West
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Chris Vivian chris.viv...@cefas.co.ukwrote:
Fred,
This list of patents was referred to by Clive Hamilton. I don't know how
good it is.
http://rezn8d.net/2013/04/14/climate-engineering-patents/
Chris.
On Monday, 24 June 2013 21
Regarding kerosene lantern alternatives, there's a very interesting gravity
driven lamp that looks like a much more cost effective technology than
solar energy. Due to simplicity and low cost, I think it has a much
greater potential to quickly eliminate a large percentage of kerosene
lanterns.
of a contrail.
Mick West
http://contrailscience.com
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.comwrote:
http://m.fastcoexist.com/?m=fastcoexist/node/1681204url=http://www.fastcoexist.com/mba/1681204/diy-geoengineering-a-machine-to-create-clouds-above-your-head
claim success if it rains.
Here's some good coverage of criticism of the field from NatGeo
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/01/110118-abu-dhabi-desert-rain-cloud-seeding-controversy/
Mick West
contrailscience.com
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Jim Lee rez...@gmail.com wrote:
What
An easier to look at perspective on the size of the bloom in historical
context, six years of september readings in one image.
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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote:
** Further reporting below. I think it might have been a little
premature
Photos for that story can be found here:
http://yacht-maiken.blogspot.com/2006/08/stone-sea-and-volcano.html
This one illustrate the albedo contrast
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On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.comwrote:
Mike
It occurs to me that there a few
Maybe not pumice exactly, but a similar idea was included in the 1965 PSAC
report to president Johnson. See page 127.
http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab/Caldeira%20downloads/PSAC,%201965,%20Restoring%20the%20Quality%20of%20Our%20Environment.pdf
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On Wed, Aug 8, 2012
of the various conspiracy theories.
Mick West
contrailscience.com
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There's a less erroneous piece on the New York Time web site today:
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/17/trial-balloon-a-tiny-geoengineering-experiment/
Two Harvard professors said Tuesday they were developing a proposal for
what would be a first-of-its-kind field experiment to test the
Released today: an attempt at providing a comprehensive list of
geoengineering programs by ETC group. It's somewhat misleading,
including weather modification, like precipitation enhancement (cloud
seeding) as geoengineering. It also gives the impression for many
things (like various forms of SRM)
I think that link should just be:
http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/geoblog
As it's broken otherwise.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Nigel Moore nigelpatrickmo...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi All,
The Oxford Geoengineering Programme (as of today) is hosting a new
blog dedicated to geoengineering.
I'm Mick West, and I run the Contrail Science site that Ken mentioned.
I'd like to echo what David said. I met with some of the chemtrail folk
today in Venice, California for an extensive discussion, and was struck by
just how nice and well-meaning they all were. They are all good people
I believe this initial SPICE test will only pump water, it's a test of the
delivery system.
Agglomeration (coalescing of particles) is in one of the future proposed
work products though:
http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~hemh/climate/Geoengineering_RoySoc.htm
WP1.3 Investigating agglomeration.
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