Re: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction

2013-07-06 Thread rongretlarson
andrew.lock...@gmail.com, geoengineering geoengineering@googlegroups.com, so...@mit.edu Solomon so...@mit.edu Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 12:21:58 PM Subject: Re: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction In my mind, the question of what is CDR and what is not, is a matter of scale

Re: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction

2013-07-05 Thread H. Damon Matthews
; so...@mit.edumailto:so...@mit.edu so...@mit.edumailto:so...@mit.edu Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction Hi Greg, I guess I may as well weigh in on this … my intent in writing our reply to your letter was not to label CDRers

Re: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction

2013-07-05 Thread H. Damon Matthews
...@uu.nlmailto:r.d.schuil...@uu.nl; geoengineering geoengineering@googlegroups.commailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:21 AM Subject: RE: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction I don't think CDR makes any real sense until we stop using fossil fuels at scale

RE: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction

2013-07-04 Thread Andrew Lockley
: Michael Hayes Subject: RE: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction If you believe the 'facts' are that CDR using your method can (at realistic cost) attenuate all future temperature rise, then I encourage you to publish your results asap (or post a citation to an existing reference

Re: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction

2013-07-03 Thread Lou Grinzo
If you look at current emissions (too high and still rising slightly), plus the lock-in effect of current and near-term planned infrastructure (e.g. the WRI report on massive planned worldwide coal plant additions), I don't think it even makes sense to discuss CDR as anything but an active form

[geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction

2013-07-02 Thread Rau, Greg
Klaus Lackner and I tried to inject some hope and optimism into the earlier climate change mitigation discussion by Matthews and Solomon: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6140/1522.2.full MS reply: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6140/1523.1.full They summarize: In a discussion of

Re: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction

2013-07-02 Thread Andrew Lockley
I think a better argument against CDR is that it's so slow to act that you probably wouldn't want to pull down the temperature once it's been high for so long. Would we really want to go right back to pre industrial temperatures today? If not, why should we assume that future generations will

Re: [geo] CRD: not very relevant and a distraction

2013-07-02 Thread Gregory Benford
Good grief! But...the CROPS method and biochar we can use immediately and catch 15% of global emissions NOW. Using natural mechanisms is faster, cheaper, smarter. As Greg said. Gregory Benford On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.comwrote: I think a better