Re: [geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research - ja

2009-12-17 Thread John Nissen
cember 17, 2009 12:36 PM To: Ridley, Jeff Subject: Re: [geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research - ja Thanks, Jeff.  That's most helpful. I expect there will be some follow up questions, and I'd be grateful if you could respond to them. BTW, in one of my email

[geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research - ja

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Farbstein
Jeff's post about clouds over the arctic is interesting. If low altitude clouds are beneficial in the summer and detrimental in the other seasons, they can be seeded during the non-summer months to prevent them from heating the land. They can be seeded in strategic places also. Over the ocean to pr

[geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research - ja

2009-12-16 Thread Neil Farbstein
What is electrostatic drop seeding. Can it be scaled up? On Dec 16, 12:02 pm, John Latham wrote: > Hello Mike et al, > > I agree entirely with you Mike that seeding can cause ice fogs to disperse. > Also electrostatic droplet seeding could help dissipate warm fogs. I should > have more carefull

Re: [geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research - ja

2009-12-16 Thread John Nissen
Hi John, I saw some research somewhere that said that global cloud cover had decreased over the past decades, contributing slightly to global warming.  But I can't find it now.  Do you know about it?  Could it be due to black carbon?  Here's an extract from a Hansen essay: 'Black carbon aero

Re: [geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research - ja

2009-12-16 Thread John Latham
Hello Mike et al, I agree entirely with you Mike that seeding can cause ice fogs to disperse. Also electrostatic droplet seeding could help dissipate warm fogs. I should have more carefully indicated that I was focusing on seeding of clouds containing ice, and particularly mixed-phase clouds.

Re: [geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research

2009-12-16 Thread Mike MacCracken
With one exception, I agree with John. The exception is that I think it has been demonstrated that one can clear an ice fog with seeding, and this has been done to open airports, etc.--not to generate precipitation (in any form). I would add that the water vapor content of air and clouds above Gre

[geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research

2009-12-16 Thread John Latham
Quoting John Latham : > Hello Neil, Andrew et al. > > Cloud seeding (principally to make rain) has had a long and highly > chequered history in the 60 years since Vonnegut, Schaefer & Langmuir > did their pioneering work. Many studies since then were contaminated > by commercial interests. Ther

[geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research

2009-12-16 Thread John Latham
Hello Neil, Andrew et al. Cloud seeding (principally to make rain) has had a long and highly chequered history in the 60 years since Vonnegut, Schaefer & Langmuir did their pioneering work. Many studies since then were contaminated by commercial interests. There is no essentially no consensus a