Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-27 Thread Nathan Currier
: geoengi...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Greg Rau *Sent:* maandag 23 maart 2015 1:14 *To:* kcal...@gmail.com javascript: *Cc:* Hester, Tracy; geoengineering *Subject:* Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering According to their definition, yes

RE: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-24 Thread J.L. Reynolds
@googlegroups.com [mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Horton Sent: 23 March 2015 16:41 To: geoengineering@googlegroups.com Cc: kcalde...@gmail.com; tdhes...@central.uh.edu Subject: Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering I live next door

Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-23 Thread Hester, Tracy
@googlegroups.com geoengineering@googlegroups.commailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering I sense the opportunity for a great publicity stunt, to poke the legislators into rethinking this sloppily drafted law by : A) Deliberately

Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-23 Thread Hawkins, Dave
@googlegroups.commailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering I sense the opportunity for a great publicity stunt, to poke the legislators into rethinking this sloppily drafted law by : A) Deliberately painting a driveway white B) Laying

Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-23 Thread Alan Robock
Since the bill defines geoengineering as counteracting global *warning* and not global *warming*, do we have anything to worry about? The bill makes no distinction between small scale experiments and large scale implementation, but I guess that is what the review process is for. Alan Robock

Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-23 Thread Josh Horton
I live next door in Massachusetts so take a particular interest in this. The bill has two sponsors, both Democrats: - Rep. Karen MacBeth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_MacBeth - Rep. James McLaughlin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McLaughlin_(politician) They serve

RE: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-23 Thread Andrew Lockley
: geoengineering@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Rau *Sent:* maandag 23 maart 2015 1:14 *To:* kcalde...@gmail.com *Cc:* Hester, Tracy; geoengineering *Subject:* Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering According to their definition, yes, Ken, you are under

RE: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-23 Thread J.L. Reynolds
Original message From: Greg Rau gh...@sbcglobal.net Date:23/03/2015 01:22 (GMT+01:00) To: kcalde...@gmail.com Cc: Hester, Tracy tdhes...@central.uh.edu, geoengineering geoengineering@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering According

RE: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-23 Thread Schuiling, R.D. (Olaf)
Subject: Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering According to their definition, yes, Ken, you are under arrest: (6) Geoengineering means activities specifically and deliberately designed to effect a change in the area climate, with the intent or purpose of minimizing

Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-23 Thread Andrew Lockley
What if the intent is to measure the effect, rather than to modify the climate? Or to measure the ability to deliver an effect, as in an engineering test? And further, how would anyone know what intent someone holds? A On 23 Mar 2015 03:43, Caroline Masiello masie...@rice.edu wrote: It sure

Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-22 Thread Ken Caldeira
If this is real and not a joke, and it passes in its present form, it seems as if someone in Rhode Island could potentially be fined and imprisoned for planting a tree with the intent of absorbing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. ___ Ken Caldeira Carnegie Institution for Science

Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-22 Thread Hawkins, Dave
The bill is broadly drafted. If it passed, presumably the Department of Environmental Management would adopt rules creating categorical exemptions from the requirement to apply for a permit. Also, presumably, these exemptions would include residential and commercial landscaping activities.

Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate engineering

2015-03-22 Thread Caroline Masiello
It sure sounds like this would apply to biochar, too. But what about the intent text? Is it legal if you apply biochar with the intention of conserving water, but not if you apply it to manage climate? Carrie Dr. Caroline Masiello Professor, Earth Science Joint: BioSciences and Chemistry