Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-07 Thread Alan Horkan
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Date: 06 Feb 2004 11:50:54 +0100 From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one) Hi

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can certainly spread it around. I update the NEWS now, as well as you. Anyone can do that. Same thing goes for making the announcement on freshmeat, gnome-desktop, linuxartist... I can do bugzilla tags. Well, I am certainly not going to ask for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-06 Thread Dave Neary
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can certainly spread it around. I update the NEWS now, as well as you. Anyone can do that. Same thing goes for making the announcement on freshmeat, gnome-desktop, linuxartist... I can do bugzilla tags. Well, I am certainly

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I am certainly not going to ask for this and so far I have always waited about a day if someone else would post announcements on gnomedesktop and other sites. But it seems that noone but me is interested enough to post there, so I guess I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-06 Thread David Hodson
Sven Neumann wrote: Comments off-list don't count. If people want to comment on this subject, they should do it on the list. Everything else is just noise. Maybe they should, but that doesn't mean that they will. It's a lot easier to drop an email to the person that you agree with, than to jump

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This roadmap should not be seen as set in stone, but I agree with Freedman Dyson that it is better to be precise and wrong than to be vague. If we set ourselves vague targets, then we will arrive at them a long time after we'd like. So what? So,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap

2004-02-05 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This roadmap should not be seen as set in stone, but I agree with Freedman Dyson that it is better to be precise and wrong than to be vague. If we set ourselves vague targets, then we will arrive at them a long time after we'd like. So

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap

2004-02-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi Dave, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This roadmap should not be seen as set in stone, but I agree with Freedman Dyson that it is better to be precise and wrong than to be vague. If we set ourselves vague targets, then we will arrive at them a long time after we'd like. So what?

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-05 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi, On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 13:27, Sven Neumann wrote: David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] So, without further ado, here's the updated roadmap... are there any comments? [snip] The GIMP project is already putting up enough pressure without people trying to nail us down on release

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-05 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 13:27, Sven Neumann wrote: [...] nail us down [...] [snip] Imposing a fixed release schedule [...] [snip] [...] this road map should not be set in stone. I think both you and Sven have somewhat missed the point. The funny thing is, we are

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not trying to nail anyone down. I don't think anyone is. I'm not *imposing* anything. The roadmap (as has been shown by the last one) is *not* set in stone. We all know that but your roadmap gave a different impression. Instead of pointing out

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-05 Thread David Neary
Hi, First, I'd like to say that I think it's a pity that you replied so aggressively to the mail - I would have liked to hear more comments, but I think that the tone of the thread may have intimidated people somewhat. Sven Neumann wrote: We all know that but your roadmap gave a different

[Gimp-developer] Updated roadmap (so people don't laugh at the old one)

2004-02-04 Thread David Neary
Hi all, Some people thought it was ridiculous to fix dates on events when we had GIMPCon at the CCC in August - after all, we haven't done that in the past, and it'll be done when it's done is almost a motto for some people around. The thing is that we did make a roadmap, though - and we've