Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 20:33 +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote: It already shares focus and minimising with the image window. It being a semi-separate window is only good for moving it. Moving it is only good for getting to see the whole canvas. If it would not cover any part of the canvas,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-20 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 03:29:37PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: Well, you have overlooked the main problem here. If you add user interface elements to the image window, then these will cover parts of the canvas and there will be no way to unobscure the covered parts. So if you think that it

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2007-05-20 at 16:20 +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote: No. Either being able to see the canvas is important, in which case adding the message and resizing the image window can be better than having the user move a window around. There is nothing more annoying that a window that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-20 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:29:34PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: There is nothing more annoying that a window that resizes itself. In particular because it is very difficult, if not impossible, to get this right with all the various window managers being used by our users. The window manager

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-20 Thread Christopher Curtis
On 5/20/07, Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to raise this with the Metacity project. http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2007/05/20/save-changes-integrated-3/ I don't think you want to go too far down this path. A significant portion of GIMP users run Windows and WMs other than

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-18 Thread peter sikking
Thorsten, Image window and Save Changes dialog turned into one: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/save-changes-integrated/ Somehow I do not know what structural problem you are trying to solve for one million users. I am all for reusing the main window (save for web, preparing a print)

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-18 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 03:41:39PM +0200, peter sikking wrote: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/save-changes-integrated/ Somehow I do not know what structural problem you are trying to solve for one million users. The current Save Changes dialog tends obscure the image. If users

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-18 Thread peter sikking
Thorsten, http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/save-changes-integrated/ Somehow I do not know what structural problem you are trying to solve for one million users. The current Save Changes dialog tends obscure the image. It is a modal dialog situation: we need a decision now. The

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-18 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 05:38:19PM +0200, peter sikking wrote: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/save-changes-integrated/ It is a modal dialog situation: we need a decision now. Yes, the scope being the image. Regarding that one image window, a decision is needed, outside not. If

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save Changes Integrated

2007-05-18 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 08:33:38PM +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/save-changes-integrated/ I'm not at all convinced about the presentation of this modal, tied to another window while looking like any other window itself dialog, though. It already