Re: [Gimp-developer] Export File dialog question

2008-06-11 Thread Alexia Death
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 17:54 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: Could make sense to ask on the gimp-user list. But as far as I can see, saving the current drawable is the only reasonable use case. We might want to consider to make this easier by adding Save Layer and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Export File dialog question

2008-06-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 09:14 +0300, Alexia Death wrote: So basically the whole dialog is useless and could just as well be replaced by assuming that the user clicked Export... and maybe a notice in save dialog that any other format except xcf may cause some data loss. That should be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Export File dialog question

2008-06-11 Thread Alexia Death
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 09:14 +0300, Alexia Death wrote: So basically the whole dialog is useless and could just as well be replaced by assuming that the user clicked Export... and maybe a notice in save dialog that any other format except xcf may cause some data

Re: [Gimp-developer] Export File dialog question

2008-06-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 09:45 +0300, Alexia Death wrote: I don't quite understand. What dialog is useless? Export file... dialog you get on saves to formats that are not xcf. It does ask in some formats for conversion options but I doubt many people have ever done anything else there

Re: [Gimp-developer] Export File dialog question

2008-06-11 Thread Alexia Death
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 09:45 +0300, Alexia Death wrote: I don't quite understand. What dialog is useless? Export file... dialog you get on saves to formats that are not xcf. It does ask in some formats for conversion options but I doubt many people have ever done

[Gimp-developer] Specs for Export/Save User Interface

2008-06-11 Thread gib_mir_mehl
Hi all, here is a spec which claims to clean up the existent save/export features in a consistent manner. Problems addressed: - insufficient protection from data loss regarding layer alpha information. This is considered a UI bug [7]. For an example see [1]. - too many dialogs which pop up

Re: [Gimp-developer] Specs for Export/Save User Interface

2008-06-11 Thread gib_mir_mehl
Hi again, here's the first correction: in section Conversion Rules, read 'common format affected' as 'one example of a format affected by this dialog'. The conversion rules are listed by the current dialogs' texts to present the user's point of view. These dialogs are triggered by format

Re: [Gimp-developer] Export File dialog question

2008-06-11 Thread Guillermo Espertino
From my user perspective, I'm ok with the save / export separation. - Save only for XCF - Export for other formats (using the current method, guess format by extension, or manual selection of the output format). We users are used to save anything, despite if it's a lossy format or not, and that's

Re: [Gimp-developer] Export File dialog question

2008-06-11 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 08:08 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: It's not clear what Save Visible Layers would do. Would it save the merged image of all visible layers into a single layer Yes. I.e. like doing a flatten and then a save and then an undo. I don't have strong feelings about it, but since

Re: [Gimp-developer] Export File dialog question

2008-06-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 13:17 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 08:08 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: It's not clear what Save Visible Layers would do. Would it save the merged image of all visible layers into a single layer Yes. I.e. like doing a flatten and then a save and

Re: [Gimp-developer] proposed solution for: protection from protection from data loss

2008-06-11 Thread gib_mir_mehl
Hi, Alchemie foto\grafiche wrote: gib_mir_mehl wrote: Don't all those export troubles disintegrate once we presume a little more confidence in the undo function? More confidence will require a option to save undo history. As it is now once the image is closed its Undo History

Re: [Gimp-developer] proposed solution for: protection from protection from data loss

2008-06-11 Thread Jon Senior
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:35:27 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would a user interface look like for exporting undo history and for merging the history with the image again? Are there already proposals for this? Just my take... is this not something that GEGL and the non-destructive

Re: [Gimp-developer] proposed solution for: protection from protection from data loss

2008-06-11 Thread gib_mir_mehl
Jon Senior wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would a user interface look like for exporting undo history and for merging the history with the image again? Are there already proposals for this? Just my take... is this not something that GEGL and the non-destructive editing will take