Re: [Gimp-developer] Missing button to confirm some tool actions (usability)

2007-08-17 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:15:37 +0200, Martin Nordholts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Raphaël Quinet wrote:
  One of the changes from GIMP 2.2 to 2.4 is the streamlining of some
  tools [...] However, as noted by one user on IRC today, this has also 
  removed the
  big Crop button that existed previously in the pop-up. [...]
  One idea would be to put such a button in the status bar, just like
  the Cancel button that appears when a plug-in displays its progress
  information.
 
 Interesting observation, but does it make sense to have buttons in a
 place that (to my understanding) is supposed to be a monologue, i.e.
 just providing information; not offer interaction? Wouldn't it make more
 sense to have this button in the Tool Options?

Well, the bug report was about having a button somewhere - anywhere.

The suggestion to place it in the status bar (in the same place as the
Cancel button that already appears when a plug-in is running) was just
an idea, but certainly not the only way to solve this problem
(assuming that we consider it as a real problem that has to be solved).

 Now, I know that we don't like more stuff in there, but imo that's the
 right place for such a button.

Tool options should be reserved for options, not for actions.  And
indeed, we have too much stuff in there: most users already have to
scroll in order to see all options.  On the other hand, we already
have some actions in there, such as Auto Shrink Selection (rectangle
tool) or Create Selection from Path and Stroke Path (paths tool).
So maybe we could add another button among the tool options.

I don't like the idea of overlays that has been suggested by others
(displaying controls over the image) and we should get rid of the
annoying pop-ups, so for the moment I only see the following options:
1) put the confirmation button in the status bar,
2) put the confirmation button in the tool options,
3) ignore the issue and assume that all users will read the message
   suggesting that they press Enter.
Other ideas or opinions are still welcome...

-Raphaël
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[Gimp-developer] Thankyou and Well Done to the Gimp Development Team

2007-08-17 Thread Matt Jones
I know this isn't strictly developer talk, but I would like to say  
thankyou to the gimp development team. I recently upgraded my laptop to  
ubuntu gutsy, to see what it was like. It includes Gimp 2.3.18, and I  
would just like to say that is excellent, There are some really nice  
features that make it so much easier to use, such as the selection  
resizing. Keep up the good work!

Regards
Matt Jones
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[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0-rc1

2007-08-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Moin,

we did it. It's not the final 2.4.0 release yet, but a first release
candidate is now available from 
 
 ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.4/testing 


Changes in GIMP 2.4.0-rc1
=

- further improvement to the Print plug-in
- completed the color management functionality for 2.4
- store JPEG setting with the image and use them when saving as JPEG
- further improved the rectangle tools, in particular handling of the
  fixed aspect ratio
- added color profile selector widget
- further improved the display quality for zoomed-out views


This is probably the last mail I write before going on vacation with the
girl I am going to marry tomorrow. I hope that you guys can manage to
fix the remaining issues and roll out the 2.4.0 release while I am away.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0-rc1

2007-08-17 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 17.08.2007 14:27:56, Sven Neumann a écrit :
Moin,

we did it. It's not the final 2.4.0 release yet, but a first release
candidate is now available from 
 
 ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.4/testing 


Changes in GIMP 2.4.0-rc1
=

- further improvement to the Print plug-in

Which segfault on my system…



This is probably the last mail I write before going on vacation with
the
girl I am going to marry tomorrow. I hope that you guys can manage to

Many wishes!!

Regards

Jean-Luc



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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0-rc1

2007-08-17 Thread rcook

This is probably the last mail I write before going on vacation with
the
girl I am going to marry tomorrow. I hope that you guys can manage to

 Many wishes!!


Oh dear, another good man lost :-)

Hope it all goes well


Owen


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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0-rc1

2007-08-17 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Friday 17 August 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is probably the last mail I write before going on vacation with
 the
 girl I am going to marry tomorrow. I hope that you guys can manage to
 
  Many wishes!!

 Oh dear, another good man lost :-)

 Hope it all goes well


Congratulations and good luck!

Regards,

Shlomi Fish


 Owen


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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0-rc1

2007-08-17 Thread Kevin Cozens
Sven Neumann wrote:
 This is probably the last mail I write before going on vacation with the
 girl I am going to marry tomorrow.

And to think people say that geeks don't have lives. :-)

Congratulations, Sven. All the best.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Hue-Saturation tool with gradients

2007-08-17 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 14:50 -0300, Guillermo Espertino wrote:

 If somebody is interested in participating in this process please send 
 me an e-mail so we can coordinate efforts with Danko and Marius

My own feeling is that it would be better to wait until there is
some experience with the post-2.4 GIMP and higher definition
colour models before changing any of the colour tools.

This doesn't mean I think the suggestions are bad -- or good :-) --
but that it's not quite time yet.

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0-rc1

2007-08-17 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 14:27 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Moin,
 
 we did it.

congratulations!!!


 This is probably the last mail I write before going on vacation with the
 girl I am going to marry tomorrow.

even bigger congratulations!!! :)

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Hue-Saturation tool with gradients

2007-08-17 Thread Guillermo Espertino
Liam wrote:
 My own feeling is that it would be better to wait until there is
 some experience with the post-2.4 GIMP and higher definition
 colour models before changing any of the colour tools.
Our intention is to describe a usage scenario and brainstorm a possible 
interface for the tool, as well as possible enhancements for that tool. 
Once we have a solid description and mockup we'll back to this list to 
propose the changes to the developers, but not with a simple idea but 
with complete documentation of the case.
Anyway, this work is intended for 2.6, so I think it won't harm anyone 
if we discuss this off-list and try to gather some fresh ideas.

Regards,
Gez.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0-rc1

2007-08-17 Thread Roel Schroeven
Sven Neumann schreef:
 This is probably the last mail I write before going on vacation with the
 girl I am going to marry tomorrow. I hope that you guys can manage to
 fix the remaining issues and roll out the 2.4.0 release while I am away.

Congratulations to you and your (soon-to-be) wife!!

-- 
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on the shoulders of giants.  -- Isaac Newton

Roel Schroeven

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[Gimp-developer] Is dock windows transient to image display option removed ?

2007-08-17 Thread damianzalewski
Will this option be removed and not introduced in 2.4 ?

I'm talking about windows version of Gimp.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0-rc1

2007-08-17 Thread Renan Birck
Em Sex, 2007-08-17 às 14:27 +0200, Sven Neumann escreveu:
 Moin,
 
 we did it. It's not the final 2.4.0 release yet, but a first release
 candidate is now available from 
  
 ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.4/testing 

Very good! 

 This is probably the last mail I write before going on vacation with the
 girl I am going to marry tomorrow. I hope that you guys can manage to
 fix the remaining issues and roll out the 2.4.0 release while I am away.

Congratulations. All the best for you. :)

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