[Gimp-developer] Why the Van Gogh filter is still in gimp?
I see the Van Gogh filter is still in gimp, even in the last git and i fear to see it even in next 2.8 I think nobody use it, also because would be close to the impossible do something definite with it: not only is not clear for what is for, but even after reading its help page, remain basically unusable as it is now because miss even the most rudimentary preview Much more widely used and interesting filters were removed (i.e. the freetype plugin) Many third party plugin fit much more in the gimp product vision Do you really think that the Van Gogh filters may fit in the gimp product vision ? In case at least fix it adding a preview, (but i think nobody will complain for its removal ) Hello! I have read this message in GIMP lists: http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-developer/2010-November/025817.html I think that You are wrong. Did You asked to all GIMP users before saying that something is not useful and nobody uses it? I haven't been asked. Please, don't say that nobody uses it, because You don't know it. Also, It could be filters (scripts) that uses this filter, and They would be broken. I have a better idea: If You don't like something, don't use it. I prefer the proposed idea of packages of filters (artistic, photo, 3D textures, pixelart...). It would be much better that just removing things. Also, I will make a backup copy of all filters, and I will reinstall them if some of them is removed in the next release. Also, I will install GIMP 2.8 and GIMP 3 simultaneously, because GIMP 2.8 has some functions that I need (and I use) that would be removed in GIMP 3 (like indexed colour model). Bye! -- DontRemove (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Major UI issues with gradient editor (and suggestions for fixing them)
On 11/16/2010 07:16 PM, Bart Kelsey wrote: While I appreciate that GIMP's gradient editor is highly capable, the advanced features are set up in such a way that creating a simple gradient quickly is next to impossible. This is a major usability problem. I would suggest the following changes in order to remedy this: Hi Just a hint: Suggestions for UI improvements will be a lot more punchy if you provide mockups and other graphical diagrams. The most preferable form is a complete UI spec like the ones found at gui.gimp.org. BR, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Nightly GIMP, GEGL, babl tarball builds ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Major UI issues with gradient editor (and suggestions for fixing them)
I'll be honest with you -- I have some big projects of my own, and I don't have the many free hours necessary to build an entire UI spec. I already took quite a while thinking about this and typing it up, and I was hoping that I could perhaps generate some discussion, or maybe get a GIMP developer who happens to like my idea to flesh it out into a real spec. I would be happy to answer questions about my idea if anything is unclear. If no one feels that it's worthwhile, I won't be offended. :) Bart On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/16/2010 07:16 PM, Bart Kelsey wrote: While I appreciate that GIMP's gradient editor is highly capable, the advanced features are set up in such a way that creating a simple gradient quickly is next to impossible. This is a major usability problem. I would suggest the following changes in order to remedy this: Hi Just a hint: Suggestions for UI improvements will be a lot more punchy if you provide mockups and other graphical diagrams. The most preferable form is a complete UI spec like the ones found at gui.gimp.org. BR, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Nightly GIMP, GEGL, babl tarball builds ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- -- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Why the Van Gogh filter is still in gimp?
I think that You are wrong. Did You asked to all GIMP users before saying that something is not useful and nobody uses it? I haven't been asked. Please, don't say that nobody uses it, because You don't know it. Also, It could be filters (scripts) that uses this filter, and They would be broken. Your reply with theorical general questions to a my practical and speciphic question. now would you please explain me why you want THAT filter, why do you want preserve the Van Gogh filter ? what use you do of that filters? You could describe how the Van gogh filter integrate in your workflow ? Or even a example, a video or a tutorial or a blog entry that describe a possible use of that filter?, If not i would tempted to believe that you also never used that filter, and that , as almost everybody else , you get no idea of its possible practical use. Maybe you talk of general principles, i talk of a crappy filter that nobody know why was never added to gimp the only one described as effects that nobody understand... -- photocomix (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Blocking for...@gimpusers.com
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:28 PM, g...@catking.net wrote: Hi, the running polemical thread on VG filter has made me aware of what is presumably a new feature on that gimpusers.com blog that allows users of the site direct access to this list via the address for...@gimpusers.com Would it be a best to simply block this address? Anyone wishing to discuss gimp-devel can sign up here and join the list. Letting users spam the list with inane comments form a blog is probably not productive. A request could be made to remove that from the blog but bouncing that address would probably be quicker and easier. regards, gg No - we rather let people participate - the amount of messages on that topic is not that overwhelming - and anyone not interested might simply ignore it by subject. js -- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Major UI issues with gradient editor (and suggestions for fixing them)
Didn't notice that. It's good, but completely non-obvious, which is a problem in and of itself. Most people (myself included) are going to click around with the mouse. Also, this isn't anywhere on the context menu, nor is it listed in the documentation (which I checked when I was trying to figure this out). I would be happy to update the documentation to list this (very important) feature if someone could tell me how. That being said, this shouldn't be taken as me withdrawing my idea. Thanks for pointing that out, though -- it'll make my life a lot easier. Bart On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno gwid...@mpc.com.brwrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Bart Kelsey elba...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be honest with you -- I have some big projects of my own, and I don't have the many free hours necessary to build an entire UI spec. I already took quite a while thinking about this and typing it up, and I was hoping that I could perhaps generate some discussion, or maybe get a GIMP developer who happens to like my idea to flesh it out into a real spec. I would be happy to answer questions about my idea if anything is unclear. If no one feels that it's worthwhile, I won't be offended. :) Bart Hi Bart -- thank you for your input on this issue - Of course the gradient editting needs work -- but have you noticed that you can drag colors to specific points in the gradient? (Therefore both splitting new segments, and setting new colors for both endpoints?) This is hard to discover, but once one finds out, it can conver almost all use cases for gradient editing (at least it did for me). js -- On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/16/2010 07:16 PM, Bart Kelsey wrote: While I appreciate that GIMP's gradient editor is highly capable, the advanced features are set up in such a way that creating a simple gradient quickly is next to impossible. This is a major usability problem. I would suggest the following changes in order to remedy this: Hi Just a hint: Suggestions for UI improvements will be a lot more punchy if you provide mockups and other graphical diagrams. The most preferable form is a complete UI spec like the ones found at gui.gimp.org. BR, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Nightly GIMP, GEGL, babl tarball builds ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- -- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- -- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Major UI issues with gradient editor (and suggestions for fixing them)
On 16.11.2010 20:15, Bart Kelsey wrote: I'll be honest with you -- I have some big projects of my own, and I don't have the many free hours necessary to build an entire UI spec. I already took quite a while thinking about this and typing it up, and I was hoping that I could perhaps generate some discussion, or maybe get a GIMP developer who happens to like my idea to flesh it out into a real spec. I believe the gradient editor can be prototyped as a plugin (e.g. in python), as all necessary API is published. If that helps... regards, yahvuu ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Major UI issues with gradient editor (and suggestions for fixing them)
That would be cool. I'd be happy to test and give feedback if a prototype is built. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:18 PM, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote: On 16.11.2010 20:15, Bart Kelsey wrote: I'll be honest with you -- I have some big projects of my own, and I don't have the many free hours necessary to build an entire UI spec. I already took quite a while thinking about this and typing it up, and I was hoping that I could perhaps generate some discussion, or maybe get a GIMP developer who happens to like my idea to flesh it out into a real spec. I believe the gradient editor can be prototyped as a plugin (e.g. in python), as all necessary API is published. If that helps... regards, yahvuu -- -- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
