[Gimp-developer] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all!

I'm afraid to say that http://layers.gimp.org/ is incredibly ugly, and makes 
us look very bad. As people who develop an image editing software we should 
have at least a bit of rudimentary aesthetic sense.

Carol told me she tried to make it look like the Layers dialog. Well, that's 
not what I'd like to see there, and even so with some CSS and images it can 
look much better. In any case, a web page can be even more visually appealing 
without trying to emulate a GUI dialog.

Other problems in the site:

1. There is no RSS feed as link in the head.

2. The tabs at the top (Layers, Paths, etc.) are cryptic and also their 
links don't contain the 'title=' attributes.

3. The title of the page just reads GIMP Layers without any explanation that 
we refer to an aggregated feed of the GIMP developers blogs.

4. There are no links at the side to the individual blog homepages and their 
feeds.

Please fix all that.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: [Gimp-developer] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
CCed to the list because I hate it when people email me annoying emails in 
private, and expect private responses. (see: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/iglu-web%40iglu.org.il/msg01595.html )

On Tuesday 29 August 2006 13:14, Carol Spears wrote:
 hello,

 when i put together the people for the gtk+ planet, i limited it to only
 those who had contributed for the current version cycle.

I disagree with this strategy. First of all, because it may imply that people 
that did not contribute for the next version will be removed. And secondly, 
because many people contributed in the past and are worth mentioning.


 ugly maybe is a better word to describe people who make minimum
 contributions and have maximum opinions and needs.

This is not the case for me. I've made many past and present contributions to 
the GIMP. And I never had maximum opinions and needs.


 'not my taste' is better to describe web page formating.


Perhaps. But I believe most people will find it not their taste, which in 
this case will make it ugly. And the usability problems I've mentioned are 
perfectly objective issues.

And just to match my requests with code, if you'll give me a pointer to the 
code of the planet, I will perform the necessary changes.

Carol, will you stop being so annoying? You're doing more harm than good, your 
logic sucks, and you seem to have a grudge against the entire world. Please 
stop, or I'll recommend and support that you'll no longer have access to the 
gimp.org facilities, and that all posts from you to the gimp mailing lists 
will be moderated. 

 thanks for your continued contribution,


You're welcome.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: [Gimp-developer] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Tuesday 29 August 2006 13:14, Carol Spears wrote:

  when i put together the people for the gtk+ planet, i limited it to 
  only those who had contributed for the current version cycle.
 
 I disagree with this strategy. First of all, because it may imply that
 people that did not contribute for the next version will be removed. 
 And secondly, because many people contributed in the past and are worth 
 mentioning.

IMO it is worth mentioning that we did discuss a similiar distinction for the 
GIMP about dialog during LGM. Right now, it looks like GIMP has a huge amount 
of active developers. This may explain why some people think that we're 
turining down enhancement requests because we don't like them, while the reason 
is we just don't have the manpower. So carol's trategy doesn't sound like the 
worst possible metric to me.


Likewise, the feeds provided at gimp.org should be about people involved with 
GIMP. Originally there was one feed for the active developers and and for 
active users. IMO it should also be limited to posts in the respective person's 
gimp- or graphics-related categories. For example, we do not need to relay 
conspiracy theories or nationalist thoughts.


Regards,
Michael
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