[Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer
Hello, I have an idea and I'd like to know what you think about it. Let's suppose a situation: We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we want to create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we ask a for a new layer a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for the new layer, for default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our document's size), we click Ok and we have a new layer. My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px² object, and as I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I don't know if it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px². So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a checkbox with something like: [__] Follow Selection's Size Did I make myself clear? Anyway, thanks for the attention, Thales -- Thales Oliveira - Img Brasil +55 31 (8365 3869 - 3309 8760) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer
Hi Thales -- thank you for your feedback - we will take that in account while working in the UI - However, this need of yours can be easily implemented through a script - either in Python or Script-fu (if you are on Windows and have issues configuring GIMP- Python) -- this would give yiou this feature immediatelly (instead of you having to wait several months for a new gimp release). feel free to write further if you want more information on such a plug-in. js -- On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Thales img tha...@imgbrasil.com wrote: Hello, I have an idea and I'd like to know what you think about it. Let's suppose a situation: We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we want to create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we ask a for a new layer a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for the new layer, for default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our document's size), we click Ok and we have a new layer. My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px² object, and as I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I don't know if it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px². So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a checkbox with something like: [__] Follow Selection's Size Did I make myself clear? Anyway, thanks for the attention, Thales -- Thales Oliveira - Img Brasil +55 31 (8365 3869 - 3309 8760) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer
On 05/06/2010 04:24 PM, Thales img wrote: Hello, I have an idea and I'd like to know what you think about it. Let's suppose a situation: We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we want to create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we ask a for a new layer a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for the new layer, for default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our document's size), we click Ok and we have a new layer. My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px² object, and as I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I don't know if it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px². So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a checkbox with something like: [__] Follow Selection's Size That is a step in the wrong direction, the right thing to do is to make layer boundaries automatically managed so a user won't be bothered with the New Layer dialog at all. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ GIMP 2.8 development still under control ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer
@Martin It seams to be much more difficult, don't you think? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/06/2010 04:24 PM, Thales img wrote: Hello, I have an idea and I'd like to know what you think about it. Let's suppose a situation: We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we want to create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we ask a for a new layer a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for the new layer, for default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our document's size), we click Ok and we have a new layer. My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px² object, and as I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I don't know if it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px². So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a checkbox with something like: [__] Follow Selection's Size That is a step in the wrong direction, the right thing to do is to make layer boundaries automatically managed so a user won't be bothered with the New Layer dialog at all. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ GIMP 2.8 development still under control ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- Thales Oliveira - Img Brasil +55 31 (8365 3869 - 3309 8760) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 19:37 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: That is a step in the wrong direction, the right thing to do is to make layer boundaries automatically managed so a user won't be bothered with the New Layer dialog at all. Right. But until that change has been done, it might make sense to include the layer size in the dialog and to default to the selection size instead of image size. Worth considering at least... Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer
On 05/06/2010 08:50 PM, Thales img wrote: @Martin It seams to be much more difficult, don't you think? Well, yes, but that can hardly be an argument for doing the wrong thing. It is important to align resources on a project lacking them, and doing what you suggest would be a wasted effort in the long term. / Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Creating a new Layer
Thales img wrote: We make a 100 x 100px rectangle selection on a 2000 x 2000px, and we want to create a new layer to paint the rectangle, so when we ask a for a new layer a popup is opened asking Name, Width, Height, etc, for the new layer, for default the Width and Height values are 2000px² (our document's size), we click Ok and we have a new layer. My point here it is that we have a 2000px² layer for a 100px² object, and as I can see - as a user - a 2000px² consumes more performance(I don't know if it's Memory or CPU) than a 100px². So my idea is to have a option when creating a new layer; maybe a checkbox with something like: [__] Follow Selection's Size this whole thing is way too much incidental to include in the dialog. users might even conclude that it is the preferred way to do it like that. since as noted we are going to solve the problem from the other end, I think all the copy selection + paste as new layer variants we have are enough to tie us over. That is a step in the wrong direction, the right thing to do is to make layer boundaries automatically managed so a user won't be bothered with the New Layer dialog at all. It seams to be much more difficult, don't you think? not for users. --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
