Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resource ?
Is too difficult browsing brushes notice that there are 4 quite different types of of brushes mixed The brushes are clearly marked: notice the red and blue triangles in the bottom-right corners brush thumbnails? Red triangles indicate image tubes or animated brushes. Blue triangles are procedural--made via the brush editor. The ones that lack triangles are single pixmaps. Also the pluses indicate a larger or animated thumbnail is available by clicking and holding on a thumbnail. As for coloured brushes, all of the ones I've seen are coloured in the thumbnail, so they should be obvious. i know but only initiates notice , most new users not (Except for the colored brushes, their difference is more visible and obvious) A default option to see brushes listed for type will solve (see such option will make clearer that are different types ) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resource ?
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 03:53 +, Alchemie foto\grafiche wrote: 1) i agree with Alexia , get rid of all duplicates as the circle soft and circle hard brush. If may be scaled only 1 is needed Yes. For script compatibility, either ship them, or have the brush-choosing code automatically interpolate, if a script asks for footprint-36 and we have only footprint or maybe footprint-200. 2) most flexible brushes are that created with the brush editor that can be not only resized but tilted, rotated,made harder or softer on the fly, even with keystrokes Maybe there's a need for a structured brush name format? footprint/titled 15-size 96.2/colours bg fg/spacing 150%/ But shapes are so limited : will be no possible add some simple shapes as spiral and ring ? Yes, with SVG brushes (I hope). 3 about animated brush, stars, grass,stones and dirty brushes may be a good example, their possible use should be intuitive Careful! intuitive is a word people use to mean, based on my experience, I could predict how to use it but people have very varied backgrounds. We should leave intuitive for the Earl Peter Sikking, Duke of the Vision. As default for clone tool i see a HARD circle brush at 100% opacity, That's the default brush for everything I think. PhotoShop displays a brush chooser with a slider for scale, iirc, and you can even put it on the toolbar, as you can with paintshop pro and krita. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resource ?
As default for clone tool i see a HARD circle brush at 100% opacity, . That's the default brush for everything I think. Exact ! Are exactly the same !! this demonstrate beyond doubts that current defaults are wrong. Should be obvious that the pen tool , the brush tool and the clone and healing tools are different tools with a different use ...and so they require 3 quite different defaults NOTE , Default is very important for the first impression of a tool or filter If default is bad chosen the first user sensation will be of a crappy or cryptic tool on the contrary better chosen default may give a good impression of a even buggy tool I may well understand that developer have no time for the search for the best defaults but maybe is here that users may help developers ...about animated brush, stars, grass,stones and dirty brushes may be a good example, their possible use should be intuitive ... Careful! intuitive is a word people use to mean, based on my experience, I could predict how to use it but people have very varied backgrounds. We should leave intuitive for the Earl Peter Sikking, Duke of the Vision. That is correct,in general In the particular cases is just needed to use a animated star brush on a dark BG to guess its possible use...populate the sky of stars , similar but not identical Same for grass or stones animated brushes I see a different problem: Is too difficult browsing brushes notice that there are 4 quite different types of of brushes mixed : 1 normal (Greyscale gbr that use FG and BG colors) 2 colored (RGB gbr with their own colours) 3 nozzles (or tubes, gih as you prefer call them) 4 Procedural Obviously without guessing that the chosen brush is a nozzle may be hard use it at best, same for procedural brushes Is missed a clear visible hints to distinguish ... for this tagging should help if not solve - ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resource ?
Is too difficult browsing brushes notice that there are 4 quite different types of of brushes mixed The brushes are clearly marked: notice the red and blue triangles in the bottom-right corners brush thumbnails? Red triangles indicate image tubes or animated brushes. Blue triangles are procedural--made via the brush editor. The ones that lack triangles are single pixmaps. Also the pluses indicate a larger or animated thumbnail is available by clicking and holding on a thumbnail. As for coloured brushes, all of the ones I've seen are coloured in the thumbnail, so they should be obvious. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resource ?
1) i agree with Alexia , get rid of all duplicates as the circle soft and circle hard brush. If may be scaled only 1 is needed 2) most flexible brushes are that created with the brush editor that can be not only resized but tilted, rotated,made harder or softer on the fly, even with keystrokes But shapes are so limited : will be no possible add some simple shapes as spiral and ring ? to clarify ring: as circle or square or polygonal BUT only the contour is stamped, and the thickness of the contour may be modified .(..with maximum thickness a square ring brush is identical to a classic square brush ,with minimum is 1px outline of the contour) 3 about animated brush, stars, grass,stones and dirty brushes may be a good example, their possible use should be intuitive 4 brush tools would need better preset i make a example with the clone tool As default for clone tool i see a HARD circle brush at 100% opacity, but the clone tool seldom works well used at full opacity with hard brushes... something as a SOFT round brush with a bit less opacity would be abetter default : better in most case and, even more relevant, for the first contact with the tool. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
