Re: [gwidion@mpc.com.br: Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP]

2005-06-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Marc Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> For some reaosn I cna hardly believe that after reading your original
> posting. You simply show no sign of understanding for the preferences
> other people have, as if one-size-fits-all would be the perfect solution.

Huh? I've been collecting the wishes and problems regarding the file
selector, making sure that the GTK+ developers are aware of the
problem and even patching the file selector myself. We have also done
quite some changes to the gimp file dialogs since the switch to the
new GtkFileChooser widget. If you want to suggest that I would be
ignoring the complaints, I really don't know what you've been smoking.

> If you want details then "exactly as in gtk+-1.0" should suffice,
> because that dialog simply worked. No extra window, no slow extra
> popups that you have to wait for, no fancy and distracting
> _hiliting_, no stealing of the current selection etc. etc. Basically
> I want to be able to blindly enter paths as I could with gimp-1.0,
> press enter and presto - saved or loaded, with no other die effects.

Perhaps you should stop looking at the dialog and just blindly enter
paths. It works surprisingly well.

> What I simply find annoying is this "there is no problem"
> attitude. I would find a "there are problems, but we will not go
> back to that for the very few users who liked it" attitude much much
> better.

There's no such atttitude. The new file chooser has bugs and they need
to be fixed. Asking us to revert to the old widget is however not an
option.


Sven
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Re: [gwidion@mpc.com.br: Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP]

2005-06-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann )> writes:

>> to be the case with the early implementations but certainly not with
>> the latest GTK+ 2.6 releases. The file dialog is getting better and
>> better with each release.
>
> You keep repeating this as if it were some kind of religion - why do you
> ignore the people who simply disagree? Of course the new dialogs have many
> more features, but they are _much_ less usable for _some_ people. This is
> a simple fact.
>
> You should really accept that, even if it works for you, and even if you
> cannot understand it.

I do accept that but I would like people to point out exactly what
problems they have instead of just saying that they dislike the new
dialogs. Without detailed complaints we can't do anything to improve
the situation.


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Re: [gwidion@mpc.com.br: Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP]

2005-06-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'd love it if Gimp used KDE's file dialogs.  The new Gimp one is
> quite annoying, compared to both the older Gimp file dialogs and the
> latest KDE ones.

Asking the GIMP developers to implement native file selection dialogs
is just silly. The new GTK+ file-chooser was designed in a way that
allows for platform-specific implementations. If you really think that
the file-chooser needs to be integrated better with KDE, then you can
write a KDE-specific GtkFileChooser implementation. There is nothing
that would have to be changed in GIMP.

And, you aren't seriously trying to argue that the new GtkFileChooser
would be worse than the old file selection widget, are you? That used
to be the case with the early implementations but certainly not with
the latest GTK+ 2.6 releases. The file dialog is getting better and
better with each release.


Sven
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