Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator & innerbevel
On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 10:28:04PM -0500, Kevin Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could you provide the subject line of any one of the messages when you > reported the problems with script-fu which you say have not been fixed > and/or a date when one of the messages was posted to the list? The most recent message I can find is Subject: script-fu maintained? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:48:53 +0100 The result of that thread was that I changed script-fu function names from using "-" to using "_", but the bug persisted. I cannot find the bug report to the bug tracking system, but it might have been so old that it is in the wilberworks bug tracker. Due to a crash I do not have archives of earlier messages, but this error has benn popping up every few months since shortly after 1.1 came out. > I don't the above is script-fu related as such. This is all I was able to > find so far. Indeed it isn't. -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator & innerbevel
> > If re-reporting the bug is so painful that you can't do it > >It is so painful because I re-reported it at least three times (so many >mails are in my saent-folder, but I know I sent more that got lost during >a crash). > > > They are not SO critical that I have been unable to use script-fu > >They are ciritcal enough that some plug-ins (like the logulator) never >worked because of it. Could you provide the subject line of any one of the messages when you reported the problems with script-fu which you say have not been fixed and/or a date when one of the messages was posted to the list? I am searching the mailing list archives but there are so many messages I haven't found it yet. Using "script-fu" as a search criteria only 206 messages were found. I haven't found one yet which seems to mention script-fu problems in the subject line. I did find the following message from around May of 1999: >1. Gimp segfaults on the first PDB call to gimp_paintbrush. > >The reason is that the pointer "paintbrush_options" (app/paintbrush.c) is >NULL as it isn't initialized automatically. > >I haven't checked but if other tools use a similar technique these also >won't work. (I also haven't checked wether this depends on the global >paint options setting). > >2. Also, could somebody tell me how I can set the tool options? I seem >unable to >use gradients from my scripts. > >3. How do I use the ink tool? There seems to be now way of using it from >scripts. > >4. --with-mp=yes slows down the paintbrush tool by approximately 5791%, if >not more. (seriously, drawing a line takes 5 seconds instead of 0.2), this >was tested with the Circle (01) brush. The same is true for the pencil >tool but NOT for the ink tool, which is still fast. I don't the above is script-fu related as such. This is all I was able to find so far. Cheers! Kevin. (http://www.interlog.com/~kcozens/) Internet:kcozens at interlog.com |"What are we going to do today, Borg?" or:ve3syb at rac.ca |"Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: Packet:ve3syb@va3bbs.#scon.on.ca.na| Try to assimilate the world!" #include | -Pinkutus & the Borg
Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator & innerbevel
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:53:30 +0100, Marc Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >As a matter of fact, I couldn't. Why do you think I could? Anybody can do anything, with enough effort. :) Kelly
Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator & innerbevel
On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 11:30:05AM -0500, Kelly Lynn Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >PLUGIN_MAINTAINERS is just a file... fatc is that bugs _do_ _not_ _get_ > >_fixed_, so script-fu is basically unmaintained. > > You could, of course, fix them yourself. :) As a matter of fact, I couldn't. Why do you think I could? -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator & innerbevel
On Wed, Jan 26, 2000 at 11:43:19AM -0500, Glyph Lefkowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is VERY vague. What are these 'critical bugs'? the most critical one is: "start a script-fu plug-in noninteractively, and things start burning". start burning means: either script-fu segfaults, gimp segfaults, both segfault, perl gets an error but gimp runs unstable etc... There are probbaly two bugs here: the first one cuases script-fu to return garbage, and the second one (in gimp) allows gimp to become unstable because script-fu returned garbage. > If re-reporting the bug is so painful that you can't do it It is so painful because I re-reported it at least three times (so many mails are in my saent-folder, but I know I sent more that got lost during a crash). > They are not SO critical that I have been unable to use script-fu They are ciritcal enough that some plug-ins (like the logulator) never worked because of it. > I realize you must be frustrated with the bugs you report not Yes, I am. Otherwise you would need to think that I'm such an asshole _all_ the time. Beware ;) > getting fixed, and whatever this bug is in particular, but if you would > just take the time to re-report it I am sure that Sven would find the time I actually sent a report and how to reproduce it to this list 7 days ago. > Finally, I really don't believe that you contacted him personally, I nevr said that. > its maintainer is completely antithetical to my experience with them. Fine. My experience is 15 months old and is documented in at least the gimp-developers mailinglist. Sure, Sven is a nice and fast hacker, but even he can't get me to report the same problem for the 6th time or so. -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator & innerbevel
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote: > So what? Sven obviously has not enough time to care for everything in > the Gimp. Critical bugs in Script-Fu have not been fixed for over a > year, despite a considerable number of good bug-reports. That is VERY vague. What are these 'critical bugs'? Obviously we do not know about them or someone would already have given Sven a list of bug IDs. If re-reporting the bug is so painful that you can't do it, why don't you at least send the list of IDs to the mailing list? What's a "considerable number" of bug reports? Have these bugs been reported multiple times? If so, they should be condensed to one ID -- again, WHAT bug reports are you talking about? They are not SO critical that I have been unable to use script-fu -- there was a time when there were many that were, but they have been getting fixed rather regularly. > PLUGIN_MAINTAINERS is just a file... fatc is that bugs _do_ _not_ > _get_ _fixed_, so script-fu is basically unmaintained. Marc, I realize you must be frustrated with the bugs you report not getting fixed, and whatever this bug is in particular, but if you would just take the time to re-report it I am sure that Sven would find the time to repair it or at least get back to you. When I have reported script-fu bugs in the past, Sven has contacted ME personally and fixed the bug (sometimes noting that it was similiar to a previously-reported bug). Turnaround time was about two weeks or so each time, which I do not feel is unreasonable for something that he is working on in his spare time. Rather than all the fire and brimstone about script-fu's shortcomings, why don't you (a) help out and fix it or (b) allow Sven (and others) to do his job and re-report bugs occasionally if they do not get fixed. Finally, I really don't believe that you contacted him personally, or that if you did it was only with one brief email during a busy time for him, just so you could say that you DID try to contact him and offer it as proof. Everything you have said so far on this listabout script-fu and its maintainer is completely antithetical to my experience with them.
Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator & innerbevel
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:54:33 +0100, Marc Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >PLUGIN_MAINTAINERS is just a file... fatc is that bugs _do_ _not_ _get_ >_fixed_, so script-fu is basically unmaintained. You could, of course, fix them yourself. :) Kelly
Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator & innerbevel
On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 03:29:53PM +0100, Simon Budig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 01:52:40AM +0100, Sven Neumann ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I won't unless someone tells us what he thinks is broken. > > > > Well, telling "us" about it didn't help in the past, so why should it now? > > "us" should mean "the script-fu maintainer", and not me nor you. > > >From PLUGIN_MAINTAINERS: So what? Sven obviously has not enough time to care for everything in the Gimp. Critical bugs in Script-Fu have not been fixed for over a year, despite a considerable number of good bug-reports. PLUGIN_MAINTAINERS is just a file... fatc is that bugs _do_ _not_ _get_ _fixed_, so script-fu is basically unmaintained. -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator & innerbevel
Marc Lehmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 01:52:40AM +0100, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > I won't unless someone tells us what he thinks is broken. > > Well, telling "us" about it didn't help in the past, so why should it now? > "us" should mean "the script-fu maintainer", and not me nor you. >From PLUGIN_MAINTAINERS: --- NAME : script-fu AUTHOR : Spencer Kimball & Peter Mattis MAINTAINER : Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE : 463.2 kB in 11 files (only C files counted) COMMENT: --- Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/
