Re: active gradient suggestion
On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 10:19:11AM +0800, Ian McKellar wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 03:31:25PM -0500, Zach Beane - MINT wrote: > > It's a little confusing to me sometimes to use the gradient tool, > > thinking the gradient at the bottom of the toolbar will be used, > > and finding out that it's actually using the FG-BG colors (or vice > > versa). I do know how to change it, but sometimes I forget which > > is in effect. > > What about having special "FG" and "BG" colours in the gradient > editor, so we could have standard fg->bg and bg->fg gradients, but > we could also have fg->black or fg->white->blue->bg or whatever. > Wouldn't this be a more general and flexible solution? Yes, but you haven't gone far enough. Each colour at a gradient node should be customizable through an expression language (like in MathMap), so instead of gradients like 'Tube_Red', there would just be 'Tube'. The highlight for 'Tube' could be 'hsv(fg.h,sqr(fg.s),sqrt(fg.v))', the shadow edge could be 'rgb(fg.r/2,fg.g/2,fg.b/2)', and the deepest shadow could be 'bg'. Then you set the FG and BG colour and get a tube gradient based on those two colours. (Note that my sample expressions think of colour value on the range 0.0-1.0 so sqr() makes a value smaller and sqrt() makes it bigger.) Just an idea :) Tom -- --Tom Rathborne[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ --"I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my life-style."
Re: active gradient suggestion
On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 03:31:25PM -0500, Zach Beane - MINT wrote: > It's a little confusing to me sometimes to use the gradient tool, thinking > the gradient at the bottom of the toolbar will be used, and finding out that > it's actually using the FG-BG colors (or vice versa). I do know how to > change it, but sometimes I forget which is in effect. > What about having special "FG" and "BG" colours in the gradient editor, so we could have standard fg->bg and bg->fg gradients, but we could also have fg->black or fg->white->blue->bg or whatever. Wouldn't this be a more general and flexible solution? Ian
Re: active gradient suggestion
On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 10:04:05PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: [snip] > > Come on guys. This idea is not new and the only reason it's not yet > implemented is the feature freeze. Read the list we created last August > at the Chaos Communication Camp... Perhaps it's time to make the TODO file a more comprehensive list of items that are planned for post-1.2... Zach -- Zachary Beane [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP mail welcome. http://www.xach.com/pgpkey.txt
Re: active gradient suggestion
> > > Maybe best would be to have a magic entry in the gradient editor > > > "FG->BG" and "BG->FG" which would change accordingly, and remove the > > > selection from the gradient tool. Even better: have a reverse gradient toggle so that all gradients can be easily reversed... Before anyone starts to hack on this, you should know that people have already failed to do so and only nearly escaped getting totally mad. There is no use to waste another minute on the gradients before the gradient has become a real GtkObject. The interdependancies between gradient_selector, gradient_editor, gimp_context, indicator_area, device_status and the blend_tool are one of the worst areas in the gimp-core. This could and should be solved by making the gradient a proper object with the ability to emit signals. But I fear it's too late to do that now. Salut, Sven
Re: active gradient suggestion
Seth Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Maybe best would be to have a magic entry in the gradient editor > > "FG->BG" and "BG->FG" which would change accordingly, and remove the > > selection from the gradient tool. > > > > jtl > > Make that the gradient selector rather than the editor, and I'll agree with you >completely :) Sure... brain typo :-)
Re: active gradient suggestion
On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 10:04:05PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: [snip] > > Come on guys. This idea is not new and the only reason it's not yet > implemented is the feature freeze. Read the list we created last August > at the Chaos Communication Camp... What's the URL? I looked at http://sven.gimp.org/camp/ but didn't find it... Zach -- Zachary Beane [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP mail welcome. http://www.xach.com/pgpkey.txt
Re: active gradient suggestion
> It's a little confusing to me sometimes to use the gradient tool, thinking > the gradient at the bottom of the toolbar will be used, and finding out that > it's actually using the FG-BG colors (or vice versa). I do know how to > change it, but sometimes I forget which is in effect. > > It would be nice if there was a magic option in the gradient selection list > called something like "[FG-BG colors]" that automatically showed a thumbnail > of what the bg/fg colors would look like as a gradient. When it's selected, > it would also display in the bottom of the toolbar, and dynamically update > when the colors change. > > That way, no matter what gradient method is selected, the indicator at the > bottom of the toolbar will always show you what colors you'll see when you > make a gradient, independant of whether you're using a pre-set gradient or a > bg-fg color gradient. > > This is just a suggestion, and not a demand for immediate action. Come on guys. This idea is not new and the only reason it's not yet implemented is the feature freeze. Read the list we created last August at the Chaos Communication Camp... Salut, Sven
Re: active gradient suggestion
> Maybe best would be to have a magic entry in the gradient editor > "FG->BG" and "BG->FG" which would change accordingly, and remove the > selection from the gradient tool. > > jtl Make that the gradient selector rather than the editor, and I'll agree with you completely :) Seth
Re: active gradient suggestion
Zach Beane - MINT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's a little confusing to me sometimes to use the gradient tool, thinking > the gradient at the bottom of the toolbar will be used, and finding out that > it's actually using the FG-BG colors (or vice versa). I do know how to > change it, but sometimes I forget which is in effect. > > It would be nice if there was a magic option in the gradient selection list > called something like "[FG-BG colors]" that automatically showed a thumbnail > of what the bg/fg colors would look like as a gradient. When it's selected, > it would also display in the bottom of the toolbar, and dynamically update > when the colors change. > > That way, no matter what gradient method is selected, the indicator at the > bottom of the toolbar will always show you what colors you'll see when you > make a gradient, independant of whether you're using a pre-set gradient or a > bg-fg color gradient. > > This is just a suggestion, and not a demand for immediate action. > > Zach Maybe best would be to have a magic entry in the gradient editor "FG->BG" and "BG->FG" which would change accordingly, and remove the selection from the gradient tool. jtl
active gradient suggestion
It's a little confusing to me sometimes to use the gradient tool, thinking the gradient at the bottom of the toolbar will be used, and finding out that it's actually using the FG-BG colors (or vice versa). I do know how to change it, but sometimes I forget which is in effect. It would be nice if there was a magic option in the gradient selection list called something like "[FG-BG colors]" that automatically showed a thumbnail of what the bg/fg colors would look like as a gradient. When it's selected, it would also display in the bottom of the toolbar, and dynamically update when the colors change. That way, no matter what gradient method is selected, the indicator at the bottom of the toolbar will always show you what colors you'll see when you make a gradient, independant of whether you're using a pre-set gradient or a bg-fg color gradient. This is just a suggestion, and not a demand for immediate action. Zach -- Zachary Beane [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP mail welcome. http://www.xach.com/pgpkey.txt
