Re: [Gimp-developer] What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

2010-06-24 Thread Stephen
On Jun 23, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote:
 
 I think a good first step would be to port Seashore Mac OS adaptations 
 to upstream GIMP.
 

I'm not quite sure what you mean by porting Seashore adaptations to GIMP. As 
some background, Seashore has an entirely custom-build Cocoa UI, as well as 
Cocoa file I/O code. It would only make sense to port these adaptations to GIMP 
if there was a separate branch that removed the current GTK+ UI and replaced it 
with a Cocoa one, unless your referring to something else :)

-Stephen
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Re: [Gimp-developer] What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

2010-06-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 06/24/2010 05:57 PM, Stephen wrote:
 On Jun 23, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote:

 I think a good first step would be to port Seashore Mac OS adaptations
 to upstream GIMP.


 I'm not quite sure what you mean by porting Seashore adaptations to GIMP. As 
 some background, Seashore has an entirely custom-build Cocoa UI, as well as 
 Cocoa file I/O code. It would only make sense to port these adaptations to 
 GIMP if there was a separate branch that removed the current GTK+ UI and 
 replaced it with a Cocoa one, unless your referring to something else :)

What I meant was: There surely have been other adaptations to the forked 
GIMP codebase to play more nicely with Mac OS X? If so, it would be nice 
to get that into git master if it's generally useful.

  / Martin

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[Gimp-developer] What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

2010-06-23 Thread Stephen
Hello all-

I'm currently working on Seashore, which is a Cocoa app that shares some code 
with GIMP. The developer that ran the project in the past left so I guess now 
I'm in charge of the project. I just made my first preview release (you can see 
it on the webpage http://seashore.sourceforge.net/)

However, my understanding is the the original developer of Seashore kind of 
went off on his own and started this without much involvement of the people 
actually working on GIMP and that seems like a shame to me.

I was wondering if anyone here has long-term plans for supporting the OS X 
platform. The reason I ask is I don't want to spend any further time on 
Seashore if there are serious prospects for a native Cocoa GIMP anywhere in the 
future; I would rather help out with that. 

If it does not seem like GIMP will ever run natively on OS X, and Seashore is 
the best we can do in terms of a native Cocoa offering, then I was wondering if 
anyone here had any tips or advice for working on Seashore (or even if anyone 
wanted to help out!).

Thank you very much, I look forward to hearing from you-

Best,
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Re: [Gimp-developer] What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

2010-06-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Stephen wrote:

 I was wondering if anyone here has long-term plans for supporting the OS X
 platform. The reason I ask is I don't want to spend any further time on
 Seashore if there are serious prospects for a native Cocoa GIMP anywhere in
 the future; I would rather help out with that.

Stephen,

My impression is that everyone is still hoping to see stable builds of
GIMP on Mac with Quartz port of GTK+. But somehow it just doesn't
happen.

Rewriting GIMP in Cocoa by the core GIMP team is out of question:
there are too few developers active and none of them using Mac to the
best of my knowledge.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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Re: [Gimp-developer] What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

2010-06-23 Thread Jozef Legény
The GIMP can actually already run natively on OS X, at least in theory.
There is a build of Gtk+ which uses native Cocoa backend.

http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net/

I've read several posts from people claiming they have built GIMP via
jhbuild. There is also the possibility to install the gtk+ from macports
with +no_x11+quartz+macos flags and then compile GIMP, however in my case
this resulted in a bogus pango.

Currently I'm trying to make an application bundle of Gimp using Gtk+ for
Cocoa, but I haven't had much time lately.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

2010-06-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 06/23/2010 04:52 PM, Stephen wrote:
 Hello all-

 [...]

 I was wondering if anyone here has long-term plans for supporting the OS
 X platform. The reason I ask is I don't want to spend any further time
 on Seashore if there are serious prospects for a native Cocoa GIMP
 anywhere in the future; I would rather help out with that.


Hi Stepehen

The GIMP project has for a long time wanted help from someone with OS X 
experience, we absolutely want GIMP to work good and build for Mac OS X.

I think a good first step would be to port Seashore Mac OS adaptations 
to upstream GIMP.

Thanks a lot in advance for any help you will give us to make GIMP play 
more nicely with Mac OS X.

Best regards,
Martin



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