Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC: adjustment layers

2008-03-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 23:15 +0100, Ruben Vermeersch wrote:

> As a photographer, my main use case for the GIMP is doing curves
> adjustments. Not having adjustment layers has never stopped me from
> using our beloved GIMP, but it has led to some annoyance. As such, I
> would like to help out in speeding up the implementation of adjustment
> layers.

The problem we are facing with your project proposal is that adjustment
layers are not any longer planned for GIMP. We already started porting
our core to the GEGL library and the overall goal is to implement
non-destructive editing. We are not going to need adjustment layers
then, as every parameter of the image editing process will be
adjustable.

What we have to think about now is how could you could help with this
process so that we can reach this goal earlier. A GSoC project in the
GEGL realm would probably be most useful...


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC: adjustment layers

2008-03-22 Thread Bill Skaggs
Thanks for the positive response, and I apologize for the
harshness on my part.  If you had said these things in
the initial email, I would not have replied in that way.

Best wishes,

  -- Bill
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC: adjustment layers

2008-03-22 Thread Ruben Vermeersch
On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 15:53 -0700, Bill Skaggs wrote:
> Ruben Vermeersch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  A GSoC would free me from the proverbial "burger flipping", no better
> >  way to do it than to help implementing a much requested feature in the
> >  GIMP.
> 
> Maybe you were trying to make a joke, but this line does not suggest
> a very high level of enthusiasm.  Since one of the main things we are
> trying to avoid is to pick people who will get started and then quit in
> the middle because it's too hard to do this kind of work during the
> summer, this makes it hard to pay attention to the rest of the
> message.

This was indeed a joke, but probably one that doesn't translate well
from Dutch to English (I am not a native speaker). My apologies for
giving you the impression I am not, I absolutely didn't intend to sound
this way. 

The GNOME community (and all the cool things happening in the 2.4 days)
was one the main reasons why I started my studies in computer science.
Having the chance to do this for a longer period of time, rather than
just the few spare moments university and summer employment leave me, is
a dream. I planned on participating last year, but I was selected for a
summer internship.

I have been working on GNOME projects for a few years now, in the
beginning these were small thing here and there. The last two years, I
have been contributing actively on banshee and f-spot. Before that, I
have been writing web applications since 1999. Working on the GIMP would
allow me to combine my passion for photography and programming.

The purpose of my mail is to find out if there is a feasible task (hard,
but doable given the time-frame) that would ultimately make the GIMP
even more usable for photographers. I do not want to submit a task I
cannot complete, hence I prefer to ask those who have a better view on
this first.

Cheers,
Ruben


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Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC: adjustment layers

2008-03-22 Thread Bill Skaggs
Ruben Vermeersch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  A GSoC would free me from the proverbial "burger flipping", no better
>  way to do it than to help implementing a much requested feature in the
>  GIMP.

Maybe you were trying to make a joke, but this line does not suggest
a very high level of enthusiasm.  Since one of the main things we are
trying to avoid is to pick people who will get started and then quit in
the middle because it's too hard to do this kind of work during the
summer, this makes it hard to pay attention to the rest of the
message.

Best wishes,

  -- Bill
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[Gimp-developer] GSoC: adjustment layers

2008-03-22 Thread Ruben Vermeersch
Hi,

I am Ruben Vermeersch, a Master in Computer Science student from
Belgium. I would like to ask some advice before submitting a
(potentially unfeasible) GSoC proposal.

As a photographer, my main use case for the GIMP is doing curves
adjustments. Not having adjustment layers has never stopped me from
using our beloved GIMP, but it has led to some annoyance. As such, I
would like to help out in speeding up the implementation of adjustment
layers.

As I would rather not submit a proposal that's impossible given the
proposed timeframe, I would like to ask the GIMP developers (which have
a better view on this), if there is a task I could propose, which would
lead to a faster implementation of adjustment layers. Also, is anyone
willing to mentor this?

A GSoC would free me from the proverbial "burger flipping", no better
way to do it than to help implementing a much requested feature in the
GIMP.

Kind regards,
   Ruben Vermeersch


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