Re: [Gimp-developer] the expanding gimp web
On 11/4/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 09:28:05PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there are a few new gimp.org web sites lately. i have been playing with the software available from planet.org and the results have been almost instant. Very nice. I am not sure how useful it is to have different aggregators for developers and users but we will see. What I am missing is a note on the individual sites explaining what feeds they are collecting and perhaps links to the other aggregators? i considered what sort of collections of blogs i would find useful. i also considered what could happen if only a small fraction of the gimp users added their blog to the feed. the developers would be lost. if there was only one feed, the news would get lost as well. i agree that some explanation would help, i got a little confused myself by the gimp object scheme this week while making them. after a short break in working with them, i will see what i can do about adding a little more information. Quite nice, the clean interface makes it easy on the eyes, and it looks like it'll break down nicely if someone's using a console-based browser (e.g. Lynx). Since it's already set up like that, I don't know if you want to change it, but maybe a unified header + description at the top, followed by a selection for Layers | Pixels | Paths would be interesting... http://blogs.gimp.org/layers, http://blogs.gimp.org/pixels, and http://blogs.gimp.org/paths URIs would make sense (although that's less creative, i suppose, than your current offerings). If you did do something like that, http://blogs.gimp.org would maybe also have the same main header as on the above three sites, and then split the three aggregated feeds into individual columns with mini-headers... maybe similar to the column layout at http://www.google.com/ig (except not so interactive and messy...)... each column would be headed b the individual Layers, Pixels and Paths blogs headings respectively. Hopefully the suggestion sounds clear... and maybe it's something worth considering, but take it with a grain of salt. I won't be offended if you don't like it. -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] the expanding gimp web
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 04:33:08PM +, michael chang wrote: On 11/4/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i considered what sort of collections of blogs i would find useful. i also considered what could happen if only a small fraction of the gimp users added their blog to the feed. the developers would be lost. if there was only one feed, the news would get lost as well. i agree that some explanation would help, i got a little confused myself by the gimp object scheme this week while making them. after a short break in working with them, i will see what i can do about adding a little more information. Quite nice, the clean interface makes it easy on the eyes, and it looks like it'll break down nicely if someone's using a console-based browser (e.g. Lynx). thank you. the very first thing they did when i showed my first gimp web site on the irc was to try it in lynx. this is a fact for anyone trying to design a gimp web site. Since it's already set up like that, I don't know if you want to change it, but maybe a unified header + description at the top, followed by a selection for Layers | Pixels | Paths would be interesting... http://blogs.gimp.org/layers, http://blogs.gimp.org/pixels, and http://blogs.gimp.org/paths URIs would make sense (although that's less creative, i suppose, than your current offerings). If you did do something like that, http://blogs.gimp.org would maybe also have the same main header as on the above three sites, and then split the three aggregated feeds into individual columns with mini-headers... maybe similar to the column layout at http://www.google.com/ig (except not so interactive and messy...)... each column would be headed b the individual Layers, Pixels and Paths blogs headings respectively. one of my irc friends (i always forget that he is one of the people who actually does the work running the gnome computers -- that kind of friend, they are great to make and a rare human who is a friend more than a superhuman ruler of an actual internet domain) does not like the word blog. he said that he doesn't mind the idea of it but would prefer that people call them web journals or web logs. the planet software suggests the word planet. it is implied that the planets show developer web logs. i almost missed this implication and called the user aggregation a planet. there are a bunch of planets already. blogs.gimp.org -- what if the gimp computers started to have more than just me on the computer with a blog? two thoughts about putting the feeds all on one page. 1) is that useful? and 2) gimp is making new images for two of them everyday. they are random in content (somewhat) and also size. a unified look more than what there is now is not more important than how cool those random images are, in my opinion. i think a short text explaining whose web logs should be enough. carol Hopefully the suggestion sounds clear... and maybe it's something worth considering, but take it with a grain of salt. I won't be offended if you don't like it. -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] the expanding gimp web
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 09:19:26AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Secondly, you forgot my blog: http://www.shlomifish.org/me/blogs/ it was so forgotten by me that i wonder if i even knew of its existence. your web log has been added to the developers aggregation and also to the gimp user aggregation. first, added in a broken way, then that was fixed. your web log, no matter what it says will be displayed with the others there. perhaps you should review the following document: http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html the other developers (not limited to one operating system) all seem to agree to the items mentioned under the heading List Ettiquette. this document was not written by me and these requests were estabished long before i got here. the fact that i agree with it has little to do with the existence of the ettiquette request nor the persistence of the ideas listed there. personally, i am glad to see that you would like to be included. carol ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] the expanding gimp web
On 11/5/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 04:33:08PM +, michael chang wrote: On 11/4/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i considered what sort of collections of blogs i would find useful. i also considered what could happen if only a small fraction of the gimp users added their blog to the feed. the developers would be lost. if there was only one feed, the news would get lost as well. i agree that some explanation would help, i got a little confused myself by the gimp object scheme this week while making them. after a short break in working with them, i will see what i can do about adding a little more information. Quite nice, the clean interface makes it easy on the eyes, and it looks like it'll break down nicely if someone's using a console-based browser (e.g. Lynx). thank you. the very first thing they did when i showed my first gimp web site on the irc was to try it in lynx. this is a fact for anyone trying to design a gimp web site. Since it's already set up like that, I don't know if you want to change it, but maybe a unified header + description at the top, followed by a selection for Layers | Pixels | Paths would be interesting... http://blogs.gimp.org/layers, http://blogs.gimp.org/pixels, and http://blogs.gimp.org/paths URIs would make sense (although that's less creative, i suppose, than your current offerings). If you did do something like that, http://blogs.gimp.org would maybe also have the same main header as on the above three sites, and then split the three aggregated feeds into individual columns with mini-headers... maybe similar to the column layout at http://www.google.com/ig (except not so interactive and messy...)... each column would be headed b the individual Layers, Pixels and Paths blogs headings respectively. one of my irc friends (i always forget that he is one of the people who actually does the work running the gnome computers -- that kind of friend, they are great to make and a rare human who is a friend more than a superhuman ruler of an actual internet domain) does not like the word blog. he said that he doesn't mind the idea of it but would prefer that people call them web journals or web logs. the planet software suggests the word planet. it is implied that the planets show developer web logs. i almost missed this implication and called the user aggregation a planet. there are a bunch of planets already. blogs.gimp.org -- what if the gimp computers started to have more than just me on the computer with a blog? *shrugs* To me, blog doesn't sound right either -- it is a sort of made-up word anyway. But the idea of a quasi-unified interface was just that, an idea. The concept of a whatever.gimp.org/section seemed to make sense to me since the content ... source-type is the same? I have no clue now... Planet would sound nice, except, yes, it is way too common, and I don't think it sounds GIMPy enough (if that's a word). two thoughts about putting the feeds all on one page. 1) is that useful? and 2) gimp is making new images for two of them everyday. they are random in content (somewhat) and also size. a unified look more than what there is now is not more important than how cool those random images are, in my opinion. Hm. Very true, since I guess the whole purpose of the layout is to not detract from the actual content in and of itself. [Well, at least I didn't suggest DHTML sliding menus or panels or something. ;)] i think a short text explaining whose web logs should be enough. Well, it was just an idea -- whatever works, I say. In any case, good luck. -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] the expanding gimp web
Hi, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there are a few new gimp.org web sites lately. i have been playing with the software available from planet.org and the results have been almost instant. http://paths.gimp.org is a collection of news from the world of free art software. i have subscribed to any news page i could find from the people who are going to be attending the convention next february (http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/LibreGraphicsMeeting) http://layers.gimp.org is a collection of gimp developers with blogs. this was a difficult list to come up with, i am open to the idea that i might have made an inclusion or omission mistake there. http://pixels.gimp.org is a collection of gimp users with blogs. it would be nice to get more blogs there. it would be even nicer if we could get more people blogging about gimp there. still in the planning stage is channels.gimp.org which should be a feed of gimp tutorials. i am talking with the people at http://www.gimptalk.com about this. as soon as we can settle on a good format for this, that will be online. Very nice. I am not sure how useful it is to have different aggregators for developers and users but we will see. What I am missing is a note on the individual sites explaining what feeds they are collecting and perhaps links to the other aggregators? Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] the expanding gimp web
On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 09:28:05PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there are a few new gimp.org web sites lately. i have been playing with the software available from planet.org and the results have been almost instant. Very nice. I am not sure how useful it is to have different aggregators for developers and users but we will see. What I am missing is a note on the individual sites explaining what feeds they are collecting and perhaps links to the other aggregators? thank you for the compliment. i considered what sort of collections of blogs i would find useful. i also considered what could happen if only a small fraction of the gimp users added their blog to the feed. the developers would be lost. if there was only one feed, the news would get lost as well. i agree that some explanation would help, i got a little confused myself by the gimp object scheme this week while making them. after a short break in working with them, i will see what i can do about adding a little more information. carol ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] the expanding gimp web
hello, there are a few new gimp.org web sites lately. i have been playing with the software available from planet.org and the results have been almost instant. http://paths.gimp.org is a collection of news from the world of free art software. i have subscribed to any news page i could find from the people who are going to be attending the convention next february (http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/LibreGraphicsMeeting) http://layers.gimp.org is a collection of gimp developers with blogs. this was a difficult list to come up with, i am open to the idea that i might have made an inclusion or omission mistake there. http://pixels.gimp.org is a collection of gimp users with blogs. it would be nice to get more blogs there. it would be even nicer if we could get more people blogging about gimp there. still in the planning stage is channels.gimp.org which should be a feed of gimp tutorials. i am talking with the people at http://www.gimptalk.com about this. as soon as we can settle on a good format for this, that will be online. my apologies to anyone i might have missed or included when i should not have. that being said, if you have a blog and consider yourself suitable for any of the mentioned gimp sites and some sort of feed that the planet software can understand, feel free to contact me or Wilma. in fact, more than just feeling free to contact, please do make the contact! [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] also, try not to fill up wilmas mailbox with spam as happened to wilber ;) and leave wilber alone, he is busy trying to manage spam. thanks, carol ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] the expanding gimp web
On Thursday 03 November 2005 01:34, Carol Spears wrote: hello, there are a few new gimp.org web sites lately. i have been playing with the software available from planet.org and the results have been almost instant. http://paths.gimp.org is a collection of news from the world of free art software. i have subscribed to any news page i could find from the people who are going to be attending the convention next february (http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/LibreGraphicsMeeting) http://layers.gimp.org is a collection of gimp developers with blogs. this was a difficult list to come up with, i am open to the idea that i might have made an inclusion or omission mistake there. First of all, on Konqueror 3.4.x http://layers.gimp.org/ generates a huge and annoying horizontal scroll-bar. It seems to be fine on Moz FF 1.0.x and Opera 9.0 Preview-1. Secondly, you forgot my blog: http://www.shlomifish.org/me/blogs/ Regards, Shlomi Fish http://pixels.gimp.org is a collection of gimp users with blogs. it would be nice to get more blogs there. it would be even nicer if we could get more people blogging about gimp there. still in the planning stage is channels.gimp.org which should be a feed of gimp tutorials. i am talking with the people at http://www.gimptalk.com about this. as soon as we can settle on a good format for this, that will be online. my apologies to anyone i might have missed or included when i should not have. that being said, if you have a blog and consider yourself suitable for any of the mentioned gimp sites and some sort of feed that the planet software can understand, feel free to contact me or Wilma. in fact, more than just feeling free to contact, please do make the contact! [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] also, try not to fill up wilmas mailbox with spam as happened to wilber ;) and leave wilber alone, he is busy trying to manage spam. thanks, carol ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
