Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Bucket fill, Fill with foreground and gradient
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 09:17:47AM +0200, Lourens Veen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > to me btw, ICQ has it too for example), and the filters should be in > Image->Filters, scripts would go into Image-Scripts. These should then > be subdivided into logical groups, from the user side, not from the > programmer side. The user doesn't care if a script was written in Perl > or in Scheme, he cares about what it does to his image. bad idea. the user also doesn't care (or know!) wether a filter was written in perl or scheme, so why the unnatural division? for example, I continuously looked for some "scripts" in the filters menu because I simply didn't know they were implemented in script-fu... -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Bucket fill, Fill with foreground and gradient
Lourens Veen schrieb: > Sven Neumann wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > this sounds reasonable to me. On the other hand, this would render the > > bucket fill tool almost useless since you can do the color and pattern > > fill much easier using DND. The sole advantage of the Bucket Fill tools > > is the threshold functionality and the fact that the possibility to fill > > using DND is not obvious. > > I feel that that last one is a problem. The GUI needs to be consistent. > Why not stick to three basic things: tools, filters, and scripts. That is not correct. You will need some more things. -Shortcuts: Operations like "Fill with FG color" or "Delete Selection" that can be called from the menu or by keystroke. -Dialogs: Showing you information or allowing to set options for all tools, for a window, a image or the whole program. (e.g. Brush window, Image Info) -Actions not changing the image: Zoom, New View, Rulers, ... > The > tools should all be in the Gimp main window as buttons (or maybe only > partially in "beginner mode" if we do the config/skin thing, sounds good > to me btw, ICQ has it too for example), and the filters should be in > Image->Filters, scripts would go into Image-Scripts. These should then > be subdivided into logical groups, from the user side, not from the > programmer side. The user doesn't care if a script was written in Perl > or in Scheme, he cares about what it does to his image. The unobvious > things can stay, but please, keep them as hidden functionality for power > users, not as the only possible way to do it. > Ok, but what you state here is not a problem. Ok, you have difficulties to tell a tool apart from just a fancy function (curve tool anyone). But this is no real problem. The bottom line is: "Who can tell what to do with the UI." Ralf > > Lourens > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- Ralf Engels, Dipl. Informatiker Rücker GmbH Ulm Lise-Meitner-Str. 15 89081 Ulm Germany privat Tel: 07348/967496 Fax: 0731/9266135 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sol.spaceports.com/~engels/index.html gesch Tel: 0731/9544143 Fax: 0731/9544191 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Bucket fill, Fill with foreground and gradient
Sven Neumann wrote: > > Hi, > this sounds reasonable to me. On the other hand, this would render the > bucket fill tool almost useless since you can do the color and pattern > fill much easier using DND. The sole advantage of the Bucket Fill tools > is the threshold functionality and the fact that the possibility to fill > using DND is not obvious. I feel that that last one is a problem. The GUI needs to be consistent. Why not stick to three basic things: tools, filters, and scripts. The tools should all be in the Gimp main window as buttons (or maybe only partially in "beginner mode" if we do the config/skin thing, sounds good to me btw, ICQ has it too for example), and the filters should be in Image->Filters, scripts would go into Image-Scripts. These should then be subdivided into logical groups, from the user side, not from the programmer side. The user doesn't care if a script was written in Perl or in Scheme, he cares about what it does to his image. The unobvious things can stay, but please, keep them as hidden functionality for power users, not as the only possible way to do it. Lourens ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Bucket fill, Fill with foreground and gradient
Hi, Lourens Veen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmm, I use the bucket fill all the time, both for patterns and filling > selections. If I want to fill a region with a similar colour with > another one I usually select it with the magic wand and then bucket > fill. It's easier to see how far you'll get that way. As far as I'm > concerned the threshold can disappear, making it default to always fill > the entire selection (or the entire image if there is no selection). > Magic wand can do the selecting. this sounds reasonable to me. On the other hand, this would render the bucket fill tool almost useless since you can do the color and pattern fill much easier using DND. The sole advantage of the Bucket Fill tools is the threshold functionality and the fact that the possibility to fill using DND is not obvious. Any other opinions on this subject? Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Bucket fill, Fill with foreground and gradient
> Ok, first idea for poll: > > -Do you use the bucket-fill > 1. All the time > 2. I normally use "fill with foreground/background-color" > 3. Only to fill with pattern. > 4. What is bucket fill? > > Ralf Hmm, I use the bucket fill all the time, both for patterns and filling selections. If I want to fill a region with a similar colour with another one I usually select it with the magic wand and then bucket fill. It's easier to see how far you'll get that way. As far as I'm concerned the threshold can disappear, making it default to always fill the entire selection (or the entire image if there is no selection). Magic wand can do the selecting. Lourens ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
