Re: [Gimp-developer] Request to include Gimp Manual Book at Gimp.org books (Gimp merchandise)
Hi Monica, > Did I missed something about GNU? > I studied the gimp website, all GNU licences written in the manual, > the GNU site etc. We included all pages of the manual within the > book, including all GNU infomations, all author names etc. plus the > informations that there is an updated html onlie manual available at > gimp.org > > I did not see any hint anywhere that we have to ask for approval of a > Gimp doc team and just found out how to contact gimp developers to ask > for adding the book. There is actually nothing illegal printing and selling the copies of the PDF version. Although it's not best practice. PDF versions published on docs.gimp.org are not final versions, they're 'snapshot' versions meaning that they include all small an major glitches (spelling errors, layout problems, etc). So with all the glitches in the PDF version and including that it's outdated, I don't think your customers will be satisfied all in all. That could also mean that people think, we as in the contributors to the manual, published our manual on our own through you, which is not the case. > I don't want to be offensive but is Gimp and the Gimp manual GNU or > not? It is GNU. The manual is not published under GPL it is published under GFDL. > Although I noticed later on that somewhere it's written somewhere that > the gimp doc team could be contacted to ask if there is any updated > version. > As a publishing company has to mention one main author we used "Susan > A. Jones" as a editor pen name of the book. Technically there is no > way to use 20 or what authors as authors when you publish a book. But > all authors are credited in the book pages itself. I do think that is possible ... at least technically. So finally - you can publish the PDF versions of the manual whereever you want to as long as you stick to the license (naming Susan A. Jones as an editor violates the license probably.). But by publishing it without asking you can't expecting any help from us. Greetings, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Request to include Gimp Manual Book at Gimp.org books (Gimp merchandise)
Hi Monica, On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 08:29:41AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: > > Yes, it is a pdf formatted version of http://docs.gimp.org . I wonder what you did? The PDF versions we published on http://docs.gimp.org were still considered as work-in-progress. Additionally they are very much outdated. > > We formatted the gnu-labeled PDF version for book printing and > > designed this cover. All pages are completed including all gnu > > informations. > > > > GNU Image Manipulation Program > > December 2, 2007 > > REVISION HISTORY > > $Revision: 2129 $ 2007-07-15 romanofski > > It's a somewhat unprofessional approach to print and sell the user > manual without getting in contact with the authors beforehand, isn't it? > And then you put "Susan A. Jones" as the author. Who is that? I don't > remember having seen that name among the contributors to the GIMP user > manual. I have to agree with Sven here. The manual was written by a lot of authors and people who spend their free time on the manual. I can't remember that you gave either me or someone else of the documentation team a note that you published the book. It would have been much better to post a mail to the docs mailing list: http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Request to include Gimp Manual Book at Gimp.org books (Gimp merchandise)
Hi, On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 01:45 -0300, Monica Kraenzle wrote: > Yes, it is a pdf formatted version of http://docs.gimp.org . > > We formatted the gnu-labeled PDF version for book printing and designed this > cover. > All pages are completed including all gnu informations. > > GNU Image Manipulation Program > December 2, 2007 > REVISION HISTORY > $Revision: 2129 $ 2007-07-15 romanofski It's a somewhat unprofessional approach to print and sell the user manual without getting in contact with the authors beforehand, isn't it? And then you put "Susan A. Jones" as the author. Who is that? I don't remember having seen that name among the contributors to the GIMP user manual. > Could you help to get this up on the book page? I don't think we want to advertize an outdated copy of the user manual. Definitely not without approval from the GIMP docs team. So please ask them first. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Request to include Gimp Manual Book at Gimp.org books (Gimp merchandise)
Monica Kraenzle wrote: > Title: GIMP - The official Manual What exactly makes this book official? Is it a print of the manual available from http://docs.gimp.org? Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer