Re: [Gimp-developer] Sample Points wish

2010-07-11 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
2010/7/9 Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com:
 Can you tell me how you use the sample points? I'm interested in your
 use cases, to better understand different work flows.

 --
 --Alexia


I'll try to explain (maybe I could try to record a short video showing
my work flow if my description is incomprehensible).
When I open a photo I look for areas where I know how the color should
look like. I usually look for neutrals (asphalt road, gray clothes)
first and put some sample point here. Then I add sample points other
places with known color like leaves. Then I open curves dialog and I
try to set the curves so the color color matches theory. In other
words I try to match the curves so the neutrals are approximately
neutrals and eg. leaves mentioned contains most green and bit of red
but almost no blue. This is where the sample points are really useful
because I see the numbers for all selected places at the same time.

Lukas
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Sample Points wish

2010-07-11 Thread Alexia Death
On Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:51:47 Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:
 
 I'll try to explain (maybe I could try to record a short video showing
 my work flow if my description is incomprehensible).
 When I open a photo I look for areas where I know how the color should
 look like. I usually look for neutrals (asphalt road, gray clothes)
 first and put some sample point here. Then I add sample points other
 places with known color like leaves. Then I open curves dialog and I
 try to set the curves so the color color matches theory. In other
 words I try to match the curves so the neutrals are approximately
 neutrals and eg. leaves mentioned contains most green and bit of red
 but almost no blue. This is where the sample points are really useful
 because I see the numbers for all selected places at the same time.

Thanks for the explanation. Its a very interesting use of the sample points :) 
A video perhaps would bean overkill but I would like to see screenshots of 
before an after with some sample image, if its not too much of a bother.

Best,
Alexia
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Sample Points wish

2010-07-11 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
2010/7/11 Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com:
 On Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:51:47 Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:

 I'll try to explain (maybe I could try to record a short video showing
 my work flow if my description is incomprehensible).
 When I open a photo I look for areas where I know how the color should
 look like. I usually look for neutrals (asphalt road, gray clothes)
 first and put some sample point here. Then I add sample points other
 places with known color like leaves. Then I open curves dialog and I
 try to set the curves so the color color matches theory. In other
 words I try to match the curves so the neutrals are approximately
 neutrals and eg. leaves mentioned contains most green and bit of red
 but almost no blue. This is where the sample points are really useful
 because I see the numbers for all selected places at the same time.

 Thanks for the explanation. Its a very interesting use of the sample points :)
 A video perhaps would bean overkill but I would like to see screenshots of
 before an after with some sample image, if its not too much of a bother.

 Best,
 Alexia


I made some images to show how I use sample points. Image [1] shows
initial setup and image without any corrections. Screenshot [2] shows
the image while working on it using curves and sample points. Image
[3] is the actual result, where I did correction on b in Lab
decomposed image to get rid of the blue shadows atop of the curves.

[1] http://blender6xx.ic.cz/pub/sample_points/screen_1.png
[2] http://blender6xx.ic.cz/pub/sample_points/screen_2.png
[3] http://blender6xx.ic.cz/pub/sample_points/_MG_1242-corrected.jpg

Lukas
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Sample Points wish

2010-07-11 Thread Alexia Death
On Sunday, July 11, 2010 13:08:55 you wrote:
 I made some images to show how I use sample points. Image [1] shows
 initial setup and image without any corrections. Screenshot [2] shows
 the image while working on it using curves and sample points. Image
 [3] is the actual result, where I did correction on b in Lab
 decomposed image to get rid of the blue shadows atop of the curves.
 
 [1] http://blender6xx.ic.cz/pub/sample_points/screen_1.png
 [2] http://blender6xx.ic.cz/pub/sample_points/screen_2.png
 [3] http://blender6xx.ic.cz/pub/sample_points/_MG_1242-corrected.jpg

Thank you very much for showing me. It was very interesting.

Best,
Alexia
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Sample Points wish

2010-07-09 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
2010/7/8 Michael Natterer mi...@gimp.org:
 On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 19:09 +0200, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I'm not sure whether this is a right place to post my wish but I can't
 find any better.

 It would be really great if the Sample Points dialog had Sample
 average option as the Color Picker Tool has, because it would
 certainly improve color correction experience. Without sample average
 it's not exactly more difficult to do color corrections in Gimp, but
 it's much more error prone because you can accidentally select the
 pixel with color lot of color noise.

 I think my wish is easy to implement because the functionality already
 exists in Gimp's Color Picker tool.

 Also I think it would be nice if the Sample Points dialog could show
 the before/after pixel values (divided eg. by slash or by enclosing
 one of the values in braces) but it's not something I give a high
 priority at all.

 I wanted to add this in the original sample points implementation,
 but never managed to do it and forgot it in the meantime.

 Can you file that as enhancement in bugzilla please?

 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GIMP

 thanks,
 --mitch




I posted both wishes to the gnome bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=623940
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=623941

Have a nice day,
Lukas
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Sample Points wish

2010-07-09 Thread Alexia Death
Can you tell me how you use the sample points? I'm interested in your
use cases, to better understand different work flows.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Sample Points wish

2010-07-08 Thread Michael Natterer
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 19:09 +0200, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I'm not sure whether this is a right place to post my wish but I can't
 find any better.
 
 It would be really great if the Sample Points dialog had Sample
 average option as the Color Picker Tool has, because it would
 certainly improve color correction experience. Without sample average
 it's not exactly more difficult to do color corrections in Gimp, but
 it's much more error prone because you can accidentally select the
 pixel with color lot of color noise.
 
 I think my wish is easy to implement because the functionality already
 exists in Gimp's Color Picker tool.
 
 Also I think it would be nice if the Sample Points dialog could show
 the before/after pixel values (divided eg. by slash or by enclosing
 one of the values in braces) but it's not something I give a high
 priority at all.

I wanted to add this in the original sample points implementation,
but never managed to do it and forgot it in the meantime.

Can you file that as enhancement in bugzilla please?

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GIMP

thanks,
--mitch


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