Re: Which version?

2000-11-07 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-07 at 0924.52 -0600):
> > Only Gimp 1.1.x exists for Win32, so no "stable" version of Gimp, strictly
> > speaking, exists for Win32. Also, Gimp for Win32 (actually, Gimp
> > compiled for Windows) tends to be less stable than the Unix versions.
> The deal with "odd-numbered" versions of any package is not that they
> actually *ARE* unstable - but just that the developers choose not
> to *PROMISE* stability.  Hence it's a matter of caveat emptor.

Note for the unexperienced: the odd - even version numbers rule is not
followed by all projects. Gimp and Linux kernel do, but other projects
do not (ummm, Apache?).

Also, most projects decline all responsability about stability, in
user or developer versions, famous "if it breaks, you keep the
pieces". I doubt anyone promises anything, not even pay and / or
closed ware does. ;]

My advice is to try to test a new version if most people say it is
fine, but be prepared to go back to a old one if you unluckly fall in
the minority that discover all the bugs (aah, please report them
before going back to the other version).

GSR
 



Re: Which version?

2000-11-07 Thread Stephen J Baker

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, David Monniaux wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Kati Gäbler wrote:
> 
> > A friend of mine was showing off his latest Gimp for Windows the other
> > day that he had found on some magazine CD. I didn't test many of the
> > features, but it seemed very stable and far superior to the version that
> > I have.
> 
> The latest Gimp for Win32 versions are available from
> 
> http://user.sgic.fi/~tml/gimp/win32/
> 
> Only Gimp 1.1.x exists for Win32, so no "stable" version of Gimp, strictly
> speaking, exists for Win32. Also, Gimp for Win32 (actually, Gimp
> compiled for Windows) tends to be less stable than the Unix versions.
  
The deal with "odd-numbered" versions of any package is not that they
actually *ARE* unstable - but just that the developers choose not
to *PROMISE* stability.  Hence it's a matter of caveat emptor.

Also, with a complicated package such as GIMP, there may be large areas
of stability dotted with small areas of flakiness.  If your application
and habitual usage pattern avoids the flaky areas, you may well see
a particular version as stable - whereas someone else may see it as
the most horribly broken package on the planet.


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Re: Which version?

2000-11-07 Thread David Monniaux

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Kati Gäbler wrote:

> A friend of mine was showing off his latest Gimp for Windows the other
> day that he had found on some magazine CD. I didn't test many of the
> features, but it seemed very stable and far superior to the version that
> I have.

The latest Gimp for Win32 versions are available from

http://user.sgic.fi/~tml/gimp/win32/

Only Gimp 1.1.x exists for Win32, so no "stable" version of Gimp, strictly
speaking, exists for Win32. Also, Gimp for Win32 (actually, Gimp
compiled for Windows) tends to be less stable than the Unix versions.
 
> Looking at the Gimp.org web page regularly, I've now comed to believe
> that a stable version which is reasonably up-to-date will never exist.

That is right.

> But since the Window's version seems stable, perhaps the note on the
> Gimp site is just an exaggeration?

Actually, the latest Gimp 1.1.x are very stable. There are a few bugs
still:
- a few functions do not work exactly the way they should
- there are some cleanup problems if a plugin crashes
- some weird things happen on Solaris machines (you are not concerned
  since you are on a PC under Windows).

The note is here nowadays more as a disclaimer than as a serious warning.
 
> Could someone recommend a version that is useable and up-to-date?

1.1.29
 
> My friend who a Window's user still dares to claim that Potatoshop is
> superior, but soon he will be forced to use Gimp only when nobody is
> looking.

Appreciation is in the eye of the beholder.


David Monniauxhttp://www.di.ens.fr/~monniaux
Laboratoire d'informatique de l'École Normale Supérieure,
Paris, France






Which version?

2000-11-07 Thread Kati Gäbler

Hello,

I'm a Gimp user still stuck in version 1.04 because that was the last
stable version I downloaded for my Linux.

A friend of mine was showing off his latest Gimp for Windows the other
day that he had found on some magazine CD. I didn't test many of the
features, but it seemed very stable and far superior to the version that
I have.

Looking at the Gimp.org web page regularly, I've now comed to believe
that a stable version which is reasonably up-to-date will never exist.

Every now and then I see these mails announcing new versions:

> GIMP 1.1.27 is out there and it is shiny.
>
> ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v1.1/v1.1.27/
>
> This hopefully fixes the perl problems people were having. Plus
> lots of portability fixes and misc bugfixes.
>
> -Yosh

I never installed them because I also see something like this on the
Gimp site:

> NOTE: At any given time the developers version of
> gimp may be wildy instable, may crash randomly, etc..

Making me beleive they're not really useable (i.e. cannot save/open
certain file formats or whatever).

But since the Window's version seems stable, perhaps the note on the
Gimp site is just an exaggeration?

Could someone recommend a version that is useable and up-to-date?

My friend who a Window's user still dares to claim that Potatoshop is
superior, but soon he will be forced to use Gimp only when nobody is
looking.

Kati

PS: Sorry in case this should really have been sent to the Gimp-user
list.