Re: [Gimp-user] one more thing...
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:17:06AM +0800, Joey Cagle wrote: OK, well on the Python end, which I'm not involved in, it's just going to be too big for the distro. Nathan is also trying to compile GIMP-PERL, but he thinks that may also be too big. He just needs help reducing the size I think. In Puppy/Grafpup, it can be tricky because they have different development tools because the goal is to keep everything small. I was just hoping someone might be interested in working with Nathan to get this done. Anyway let's see about getting web-o-tine working at least. First, when I load up GIMP via the terminal, here are the messages that come up. I don't know how much, or any of this has to do with web-o-tine, though. skipping duplicate plug-in: '/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/CEL' this error occurs when a plug-in has been made available to gimp twice. i would check to see if there is a duplicate installed in ~/.gimp-2.2/plug-in/ directory or if (for some reason known only to your build system) there is a different directory the plug-ins are being installed to. i see it most often myself when i have made a copy of a script and given the file a new name without changing the name of the plug-in in the script. /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/helpbrowser: error while loading shared libraries: li bgtkhtml-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory this is a weird error. it should be able to be fixed by finding the libgtkhtml package (it is a part of gnome stuff, however, it has been made available separately -- it has been a while since i installed it) what is weird about this error is that here, on my computer, one user gets the error and another one doesn't. it is not going to hurt running gimp at all, to make sure of this change to Preferences--Help System--Browser to use--Web Browser. gimp should fall back to that gracefully without the preference change, however. (gimp:1109): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: wire_read(): error /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/svg: error while loading shared libraries: librsvg-2. so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory find librsvg and install it. without it you will not be able to import and export paths. (gimp:1109): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: wire_read(): error /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/aa: error while loading shared libraries: libaa.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory libaa makes the cool looking images to ascii. i wonder if you are using a binary that was built with this library. with my build tools, configure gives a warning that this library is not installed but make builds gimp without it and no error message is ever produced. maybe you could consider to use the gnu build tools? (gimp:1109): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: wire_read(): error removing duplicate PDB procedure plug_in_db_browser registered by '/usr/lib/gi mp/2.0/plug-ins/procedure-browser' for some reason, you have a duplicate db_browser. do your build tools allow a make uninstall and in your efforts to build gimp, have you given it more than one path. maybe one of your builds has installed the common plug-ins into your user directory. removing duplicate PDB procedure plug_in_plug_in_details registered by '/usr/l ib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/plugin-browser' removing duplicate PDB procedure file_bz2_save registered by '/usr/lib/gimp/2. 0/plug-ins/compressor' removing duplicate PDB procedure file_bz2_load registered by '/usr/lib/gimp/2. 0/plug-ins/compressor' removing duplicate PDB procedure file_gz_save registered by '/usr/lib/gimp/2.0 /plug-ins/compressor' removing duplicate PDB procedure file_gz_load registered by '/usr/lib/gimp/2.0 /plug-ins/compressor' script-fu: Error while executing (load /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/guides-from-selection.scm) ERROR: unbound variable (errobj script-fu-menu-register) script-fu: Error while executing (load /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/guides-new-percent.scm) ERROR: unbound variable (errobj script-fu-menu-register) script-fu: Error while executing (load /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/guides-new.scm) ERROR: unbound variable (errobj script-fu-menu-register) script-fu: Error while executing (load /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/guides-remove-all.scm) ERROR: unbound variable (errobj script-fu-menu-register) well, i think most of these are various ways of saying DUPLICATE PLUGINS!!! script-fu has a difficult time communicating exactly what its problem is. So now on to web-o-tine, which from what I read worked in Windows but had not been tested in Linux/Unix. Web-o-tine works just fine until I hit OK. At that point, this error comes up in a window: Web-O-Tine Message Error while executing (script-fu-webotine 1 4 /root/linuxarts/index.html
Re: [Gimp-user] one more thing...
Hey everyone, for Puppy Linux/Grafpup, there are some things you want to know. Puppy Linux does not ask for a log in. For information on why it does not ask for root, check out the FAQ at http://www.puppylinux.org . GIMP comes with Grafpup on the LiveCD already, so it's not like I'm installing GIMP myself. It's already on the CD and copied into a RAM disk at startup. Maybe I will be helped better once someone can familiarize themselves with the way Puppy Linux is working, because it doesn't work the same way as the larger distros. It's not a large download (unless you're on dial-up, and even then, I can download it overnight) and it runs straight from CD, so familiarizing yourself with either Puppy Linux or Grafpup (available at http://www.grafpup.com) should be no problem. Joey On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:01:56 +0800, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:17:06AM +0800, Joey Cagle wrote: OK, well on the Python end, which I'm not involved in, it's just going to be too big for the distro. Nathan is also trying to compile GIMP-PERL, but he thinks that may also be too big. He just needs help reducing the size I think. In Puppy/Grafpup, it can be tricky because they have different development tools because the goal is to keep everything small. I was just hoping someone might be interested in working with Nathan to get this done. Anyway let's see about getting web-o-tine working at least. First, when I load up GIMP via the terminal, here are the messages that come up. I don't know how much, or any of this has to do with web-o-tine, though. skipping duplicate plug-in: '/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/CEL' this error occurs when a plug-in has been made available to gimp twice. i would check to see if there is a duplicate installed in ~/.gimp-2.2/plug-in/ directory or if (for some reason known only to your build system) there is a different directory the plug-ins are being installed to. i see it most often myself when i have made a copy of a script and given the file a new name without changing the name of the plug-in in the script. /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/helpbrowser: error while loading shared libraries: li bgtkhtml-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory this is a weird error. it should be able to be fixed by finding the libgtkhtml package (it is a part of gnome stuff, however, it has been made available separately -- it has been a while since i installed it) what is weird about this error is that here, on my computer, one user gets the error and another one doesn't. it is not going to hurt running gimp at all, to make sure of this change to Preferences--Help System--Browser to use--Web Browser. gimp should fall back to that gracefully without the preference change, however. (gimp:1109): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: wire_read(): error /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/svg: error while loading shared libraries: librsvg-2. so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory find librsvg and install it. without it you will not be able to import and export paths. (gimp:1109): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: wire_read(): error /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/aa: error while loading shared libraries: libaa.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory libaa makes the cool looking images to ascii. i wonder if you are using a binary that was built with this library. with my build tools, configure gives a warning that this library is not installed but make builds gimp without it and no error message is ever produced. maybe you could consider to use the gnu build tools? (gimp:1109): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: wire_read(): error removing duplicate PDB procedure plug_in_db_browser registered by '/usr/lib/gi mp/2.0/plug-ins/procedure-browser' for some reason, you have a duplicate db_browser. do your build tools allow a make uninstall and in your efforts to build gimp, have you given it more than one path. maybe one of your builds has installed the common plug-ins into your user directory. removing duplicate PDB procedure plug_in_plug_in_details registered by '/usr/l ib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/plugin-browser' removing duplicate PDB procedure file_bz2_save registered by '/usr/lib/gimp/2. 0/plug-ins/compressor' removing duplicate PDB procedure file_bz2_load registered by '/usr/lib/gimp/2. 0/plug-ins/compressor' removing duplicate PDB procedure file_gz_save registered by '/usr/lib/gimp/2.0 /plug-ins/compressor' removing duplicate PDB procedure file_gz_load registered by '/usr/lib/gimp/2.0 /plug-ins/compressor' script-fu: Error while executing (load /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/guides-from-selection.scm) ERROR: unbound variable (errobj script-fu-menu-register) script-fu: Error while executing (load
Re: [Gimp-user] one more thing...
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 02:08:32PM +0800, Joey Cagle wrote: Hey everyone, for Puppy Linux/Grafpup, there are some things you want to know. Puppy Linux does not ask for a log in. For information on why it does not ask for root, check out the FAQ at http://www.puppylinux.org . GIMP comes with Grafpup on the LiveCD already, so it's not like I'm installing GIMP myself. It's already on the CD and copied into a RAM disk at startup. Maybe I will be helped better once someone can familiarize themselves with the way Puppy Linux is working, because it doesn't work the same way as the larger distros. It's not a large download (unless you're on dial-up, and even then, I can download it overnight) and it runs straight from CD, so familiarizing yourself with either Puppy Linux or Grafpup (available at http://www.grafpup.com) should be no problem. well, your problems are actually due to the way the distribution has built and installed your gimp. if you show them the same errors you showed us here, they should understand the problems. i don't make distributions and am a simple linux user and i can understand them if they would like my help as a professional, i guess that one of the ways to take these half steps between windows and linux is to offer professional help and to assure professional help by charging a fee for the service. tell them i will be happy to help and they can email me directly with the terms of the professional help. this is one of the nice things about using a distribution. you have people who can fix the problems or you should have the option to build it yourself if it does not fill your needs or work as promised. good luck! carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help files for GIMP
Can someone help me install help on the GIMP program? When I press F1, I get a dialogue box saying that the help files are not installed. Where are these files located on the WEB? Thanks Mick ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GIMP help files
Can someone help me install help on the GIMP program? When I press F1, I get a dialogue box saying that the help files are not installed. Where are these files located on the WEB? Thanks Mick ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP help files
Mick Lee wrote: Can someone help me install help on the GIMP program? When I press F1, I get a dialogue box saying that the help files are not installed. Where are these files located on the WEB? Thanks Mick ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Here is everything you need to install GIMP http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gimp-win/gtk+-2.6.9-setup.zip ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.6/win32/glib-2.6.6.zip Then GIMP software http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gimp-win/gimp-2.2.9-i586-setup.zip?download The help file you are looking for http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gimp-win/gimp-help-2-0.9-setup.zip?download http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ GIMP documentation http://www.le-radar.com/ (in French) its Acrobat file http://le-radar.com/mm/gimp/pdf/gimpv2.pdf GIMP manual in French http://docs.gimp.org/fr/ in English ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/docs/ http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/TarDist/Grokking-the-GIMP-v1.0.tar.gz Optional files http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/downlinks/libpng-dep-zip.php http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/downlinks/tiff-dep-zip.php http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/downlinks/freetype-dep-zip.php http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/downlinks/jpeg-dep-zip.php How to decompress a .zip file? Double click on the zip file to open it For gtk+-2.6.9-setup.zip, click on the .exe then follow instructions. For glib 2.6.6.zip, decompress all and check USE FOLDER NAMES. For gimp-2.2.9-i586-setup.zip, do as with gtk, and follow instructions. Same thing for gimp-help.zip. Open windows explorer and copy every glib folder in Program Files\GIMP (or in the folder where you have installed GIMP) It should word Otherwise, write me back. Gilles Maltais ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] brush size
On 11/16/05, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 11:55 am, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunattely, that only works for .vbrs - which stand for virtual brushes - simple, algorithmic, brushes - which have a basic shape (diamond, square, ellipse, all with N points). This is a missing feature for standard bitmap brushes. The code is even there, but currently it is used only with pressure sensitive input devices, and it lacks a UI for using with ordinary mice. It doesn't make too much sense to scale bitmap brushes, does it? IMHO it does. Why not? IMHO, If it was the same as a truetype font and the bitmap brush was 300x300 pixels, maybe; because we'd always scale down and there'd be no attempt to up-scale and try and make a better brush from a brush with less data. [Loss of quality is another issue, meaning that you can only have so much data there...] If you have a 8x8 brush and want to draw something that is 80x80, that is a completely different matter. Of course, scaling would make so much sense with SVG/Vector brushes -- but then, GIMP is a raster graphics program. No-win situation. *sigh* If the code is there, and it is possible to get at it using another device; it doesn't seem to me for it to be unreasonable to provide mice-based and/or keyboard-based ways of providing the same funcationality... but that said, it has to be done within limits or users will simply get confused and/or complain about weird things. -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
