[Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

2009-04-26 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends,

In my normal work, I make use of a significant number of special 
characters, e.g. é, ©, — [Alt-0233, Alt-0169, and Alt-0151 
respectively]. Despite the statement in the online documentation 
(specifically on page http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-text.html, in 
the box under Font labeled Note, reading You can get special 
characters in the same way as you get them in other text editors: Alt + 
number keypad in windows), on my system (WIN XP Home SP3; Gimp 2.6.6) 
when I enter the Alt + code for a special character, nothing happens, 
that is, the character does not appear, and the cursor does not advance.

Has anyone else run into this?

For me at the moment, this is an inconvenience, as I've a choice of a 
couple of applications in which I can enter a desired text, and export a 
graphic selection containing the necessary text, but at minimum we have 
here of an inconsistency between the documentation, and the application 
being documented.

ns
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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

2009-04-26 Thread David Gowers
Hello,

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com wrote:
 Friends,

 In my normal work, I make use of a significant number of special
 characters, e.g. é, ©, — [Alt-0233, Alt-0169, and Alt-0151
 respectively]. Despite the statement in the online documentation
 (specifically on page http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-text.html, in
 the box under Font labeled Note, reading You can get special
 characters in the same way as you get them in other text editors: Alt +
 number keypad in windows), on my system (WIN XP Home SP3; Gimp 2.6.6)
 when I enter the Alt + code for a special character, nothing happens,
 that is, the character does not appear, and the cursor does not advance.

 Has anyone else run into this?
Yes, this has never worked for me either (not only in GIMP, though --
in almost every application)

David
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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

2009-04-26 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David Gowers wrote:
 Yes, this has never worked for me either (not only in GIMP, though --
 in almost every application)
   
While I understand that every other application than GIMP is OT on this 
list, perhaps you could specify other applications in which it doesn't 
work. This suggests, that this is not, in fact, a GIMP bug, and might 
help to identify where the real problem is.

ns

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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

2009-04-26 Thread Leon Brooks
On Monday 27 April 2009 08:11:14 Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
 For me at the moment, this is an inconvenience, as I've
 a choice of a couple of applications in which I can
 enter a desired text, and export a graphic selection
 containing the necessary text, but at minimum we have
 here of an inconsistency between the documentation,
 and the application being documented.

Here on Mandriva Linux (KDE 4) I can use KCharSelect
to choose the letter, then copy/paste that into GIMP's
text tool. None of the Alt-### stuff works at all,
anywhere.

I agree that the documentation should be more speculative
in its description of the process.

Cheers; Leon
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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

2009-04-26 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Leon Brooks wrote:

 Here on Mandriva Linux (KDE 4) I can use KCharSelect
 to choose the letter, then copy/paste that into GIMP's
 text tool. 

In Windows the parallel technique works, too. One can open the Windows 
application, Character map, select a character, and copy it into the 
dialog. So, until this issue is finally resolved, I'll use the more 
appropriate of two work-arounds. If I need only a character or two, I'll 
use the copy from charmap method; if I need more, I'll prepare my text 
in a word processor which exports graphics, and import the graphics file 
exported from that into GIMP.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

2009-04-26 Thread Ernie Wright
David Gowers wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com wrote:

 on my system (WIN XP Home SP3; Gimp 2.6.6) when I enter the Alt +
 code for a special character, nothing happens, that is, the character
 does not appear, and the cursor does not advance.

 Yes, this has never worked for me either (not only in GIMP, though --
 in almost every application)

Note that in order for this to work, you need to (1) HOLD DOWN the Alt
key while entering the character code, and (2) enter the 0 digit at the
start of the code.

- Ernie  http://home.comcast.net/~erniew
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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

2009-04-26 Thread David Gowers
Hello Ernie,

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Ernie Wright ern...@comcast.net wrote:
 David Gowers wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com wrote:

 on my system (WIN XP Home SP3; Gimp 2.6.6) when I enter the Alt +
 code for a special character, nothing happens, that is, the character
 does not appear, and the cursor does not advance.

 Yes, this has never worked for me either (not only in GIMP, though --
 in almost every application)

 Note that in order for this to work, you need to (1) HOLD DOWN the Alt
 key while entering the character code, and (2) enter the 0 digit at the
 start of the code.
Thanks for clarifying that.
Actually, in order for it to work, you must do absolutely nothing.
Because it does not work, in any variation including the above. It may
work on Windows or MacOSX, I don't know; I only know what the
behaviour in Linux is (Ubuntu 8.04 specifically). Maybe it's an option
you can enable somewhere.

David
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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

2009-04-26 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Ernie Wright wrote:
 Note that in order for this to work, you need to (1) HOLD DOWN the Alt 
 key while entering the character code, and (2) enter the 0 digit at 
 the start of the code.
Thanks, Ernie. In my OP in the thread, I while I did not write that it 
was necessary to use the leading 0, the character designations I gave 
all had it. Even though when I hold down the alt key, and use the 
leading 0 to access a special character in my installation of WIN XP 
home SP3, I get the expected character in every other application, I 
never get the expected character in GIMP. (NB: I just discovered this 
behavior in GIMP 2.6.6; I don't know whether it is true in previous 
versions or not.)

ns
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