Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.6.7 Design

2009-11-28 Thread Greg Chapman
Hi Jennifer,

On 28 Nov 09 13:23 Jennifer Mohr sacrificed4ha...@aol.com said:
 
 1] The main GIMP Tool page over laps every other page. You can not 
 put it behind the other pages like you could before. Not to mention 
 that it keeps getting in the way!!!

You can always go to EDIT  PREFERENCES  WINDOW MANAGEMENT and change
the window behaviour. The new default is Utility Window. Change it 
back to Normal Window.

However, it is much better is to get used to the new type and use the 
TAB key to make the toolbox disappear. REcover the Toolbox with 
another TAB keystroke, while the Image window has focus.

 2] There's no main menu (File, Tools, Edit, etc, etc) at the top of 
 the GIMP Tool page.

It's now on the Image window - far more sensible and conventional!

 I can't open files, start new files,

Course you can! Use the conventional Open dialogue, accessed from the 
FILE menu on the new Main window or Image Window should you already 
have an image open, or simply drag and drop the file you wish to edit 
on to Wilber's Eyes, either on the Toolbox or the Main window. 
Couldn't be easier!

 open the layers or brush pages.

I confess I've customised my GIMP so that these dialogues are now 
docked in the bottom half of the Toolbox - but it really is up to you 
how you customise the proram. Why not experiment a little to find a 
way to work that suits you best!

 I have to go to one of my already opened files to do this. 

Rubbish!  Just customise the GIMP to the way you want it!

Greg Chapman
http://www.gregtutor.plus.com
Helping new users of KompoZer and The GIMP
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.6.7 Design

2009-11-28 Thread Patrick Horgan
Jennifer Mohr wrote:
 After quite some time, I finally updated my GIMP from my beloved 2.4.7 
 to 2.6.7. Upon starting up the new GIMP I saw the new design that GIMP 
 now had. I found that GIMP was much, much hard to use and made things 
 much more frustrating.
   
Oh, Jennifer, I'm sorry that this hit you like this.  You are not 
alone.  There was HUGE discussion on this list when it happened and many 
expressed exactly the same frustrations as you. 

You can fix the first just by hitting the tab key.  That makes your 
toolbox and layers dialog disappear giving you uncluttered access to 
your image.  It turns out, after you get used to it, that it's better 
this way.  The toolbox gets in the way less because you make it 
disappear, but it's more convenient because when you hit TAB again 
it's right on top where you can get to it.  Before people would lose 
their toolbox behind and have to hunt for it.

For the second issue, i.e. the menu's left the toolbox, that is because 
working without the toolbox window makes it more convenient to have the 
menus on the image window.  That's also the reason that if you close 
your last image you get the blank window (almost blank, Wilbur's still 
there and you can drag and drop an image onto him.

I think you'll find, after your habits get trained that this is actually 
better/easier/more productive, but I'm with you.  It was tremendously 
annoying for a few days, then I decided they were geniuses.

Patrick

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.6.7 Design

2009-11-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/28/09, Jennifer Mohr wrote:

 2] There's no main menu (File, Tools, Edit, etc, etc) at the top of the
 GIMP Tool page. I can't open files, start new files, open the layers or
 brush pages. I have to go to one of my already opened files to do this.
 Its really annoying!

Well, think about it from a different angle: before, when you closed
the last image, all you had were just two thin floating dockers, so
you had to drop a new image on just one of them and exactly in the
right place. And on systems where windows of these dockers were
utility windows, you would have a tough time looking for these
dockers, because, believe or not, these windows were not listed in the
windows pager. So now you have a whole window that solves exactly this
issue. Besides, this window is just a first step to upcoming optional
single-window mode.

Alexandre
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