[Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?

2004-05-18 Thread Richard McCormick
OK, I need some help.

Out of curiosity I downloaded ALL the needed files.  14 in all, 45Mb's
total.

I would appreciated some help in the ORDER in which to install these
files, pretty please

GTK+
libart (tar.tar)
Pango
gimp-print
GtkHTML Library (tar.tar)
libjpeg (tar.tar)
libpng
libtiff
AA-lib
libexif
libmng
libRSVG
libwmf

There was one that I could not find and I know how to scour the web
pretty good when I want to:

Font Configuration Library

So if anyone has the most up to date version of this one, a link please.

Most of these files, including gimp-2.0.1.tar.gz are all in tar.gz
format except for the 3 files with a 'tar.tar' extention and I'm not at
all sure how easy these will be to open up.

I know it's going to be REAL fun doing this little project but now I'm
commited so please lend a hand!! :-)

Richard ;-)~



Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Hi,
:
: Richard McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:
:  I did download the main GIMP 2.01 tar.gz and in the install notes it
:  says there are about 7 other files I need to download and install
:  the following files:
:
: [snip]
:
:  That's just nuts.  I guess I will have to wait untill someone
:  actually takes the time to build an RPM for Mandrake, I just don't
:  have the sort of patience.
:
: Right, that's also what INSTALL suggests. Unless you are experienced
: with building software from scratch, you shouldn't try to get GIMP's
: dependencies built from source. Actually you should even try to avoid
: building GIMP from source.
:
:  It's bad enough that Linux doesn't have much to offer in the way of
:  graphic apps that can do high end professional work but to have one
:  of the only ones so hard to 'put together' I can't deal with that
:  right now.
: 
:  I'm impressed with Mandrake 10 so far but graphics are one of the
:  main things I do on a computer, so I guess it's back to Windows, not
:  really complaining, I just don't get too upset much any more.  Maybe
:  in another 5 or 10 years this OS will win me over but in the mean
:  time I have work to do, over in Windows!
:
: Well, Mandrake appears to be the only major Linux distribution that is
: not yet offering a convenient way to install GIMP 2.0. So perhaps
: instead of complaining, consider to use a different distribution.
:
:
: Sven



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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?

2004-05-18 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Hi,

I am not quite following this thread, but I am afraid you really got stuck in 
a storm in a glass of water,as we say in my country.

The fact is that the GIMP 2.0 can be installed in an -almost- out of the box 
mandrake 9.2 and, of course, 10.0 

You probably just missed a step somewere or the other.
If you are willing to compile the GIMP, downlaod the GIMP source,
run install, not down what is it complaining about, and install these 
packages with the URPMI  command.

All the needed packages are pre-compiled binaries included in the Mandrake 
CD-ROMs, but some are not instaleld by default. After a fresh install, the 
URPMI command is setup to automatically fetch packages AND dependencies from 
you mandrake CD's.

Just for being on the sfe side, install also the devel packages of 
everything you need to install. These are also in the CDROMs.

For example, if you need Pango, check with urpmi - y pango what packages 
are avalilable taht contain pango, install pango and pango*devel with 
the urpmi command.

Alternatively, if you want just to run the GIMP and not compile it, you may 
get an RPM pre compiled in a Mandrake COOKER mirror on the web (mandrake 
cooker is roughly equivalent to Debian Unstable)

The cooker mirro list is at:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3

and check tehre for a gimp2  rpm. 
For example, the URL
ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/gimp2_0-2.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
has got an rpm file that most likely will install on a fresh mandrake 10 
system.

Sorry for not coming to your aid before you had so much work.

Regards,
JS
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 Milan Knizek wrote:
 1) Set up your urpmi using http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
 2) install gimp2 using rpmdrake or urpmi
 
 Regards,
 Helge
 
  Hi Helge,
 
  I'm sorry I have no idea what I'm supposed to do here.
 
  Hi Richard,
 
  you can either use rpmdrake (section Media manager - Add new - it is
  selfexplanatory; then go to Install and try to look the gimp2 package)
  or go to console - and do the same thing using urpmi - it is the best to
  read man urpmi. You will need to add new media and then install.
 
  I have not checked whether gimp2 is available at the location above,
  however, this is a general way how to work with urpmi.
 
  Milan
 
 Thanks for the info Milan but NO I do not know how to set up RPMDrake or
 work from a console to that extent, I primarilly work from WinXP Pro.  
 
 I did download the main GIMP 2.01 tar.gz and in the install notes it says
 there are about 7 other files I need to download and install the following
 files:
 
 1. You need to have installed a recent version of pkg-config available
      from http://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig/.  
 
   2. You need to have installed GTK+ version 2.2.2 or better. Do not
      try to use an older GTK+ version (1.2.x), it will not work.
      GTK+-2.2 itself needs recent versions of GLib, Pango and ATK.
      Sources for these can be grabbed from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/.
      GTK+-2.x and friends can be installed side by side with GTK+-1.2.
 
   3. We require PangoFT2, a Pango backend that uses FreeType2. Make sure
      you have FreeType2 and fontconfig installed before you compile Pango.
      FreeType2 can be downloaded from http://www.freetype.org/.
      Fontconfig from http://x2.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig.
 
   4. We use libart2. Grab the module libart_lgpl out of GNOME CVS or
      fetch the tarball from
      ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/libart_lgpl/
 
   5. You may want to install other third party libraries or programs that
      are needed for some of the available plugins. We recommend to check
      that the following libraries are installed: libpng, libjpeg,
      libtiff, gimp-print (4.2.x), gtkhtml-2, libmng, librsvg, libwmf.
 
 That's just nuts.  I guess I will have to wait untill someone actually
  takes the time to build an RPM for Mandrake, I just don't have the sort
  of patience.
 
 It's bad enough that Linux doesn't have much to offer in the way of
  graphic apps that can do high end professional work but to have one of
  the only ones so hard to 'put together' I can't deal with that right now.
 
 I'm impressed with Mandrake 10 so far but graphics are one of the main
 things I do on a computer, so I guess it's back to Windows, not really
 complaining, I just don't get too upset much any more.  Maybe in another 5
 or 10 years this OS will win me over but in the mean time I have work to
 do, over

[Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?

2004-05-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Richard McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I did download the main GIMP 2.01 tar.gz and in the install notes it
 says there are about 7 other files I need to download and install
 the following files:

[snip]

 That's just nuts.  I guess I will have to wait untill someone
 actually takes the time to build an RPM for Mandrake, I just don't
 have the sort of patience.

Right, that's also what INSTALL suggests. Unless you are experienced
with building software from scratch, you shouldn't try to get GIMP's
dependencies built from source. Actually you should even try to avoid
building GIMP from source.

 It's bad enough that Linux doesn't have much to offer in the way of
 graphic apps that can do high end professional work but to have one
 of the only ones so hard to 'put together' I can't deal with that
 right now.
 
 I'm impressed with Mandrake 10 so far but graphics are one of the
 main things I do on a computer, so I guess it's back to Windows, not
 really complaining, I just don't get too upset much any more.  Maybe
 in another 5 or 10 years this OS will win me over but in the mean
 time I have work to do, over in Windows!

Well, Mandrake appears to be the only major Linux distribution that is
not yet offering a convenient way to install GIMP 2.0. So perhaps
instead of complaining, consider to use a different distribution.


Sven
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[Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?

2004-05-16 Thread Richard McCormick
Milan Knizek wrote:

 
 
1) Set up your urpmi using http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
2) install gimp2 using rpmdrake or urpmi

Regards,
Helge
 
 
 Hi Helge,
 
 I'm sorry I have no idea what I'm supposed to do here.
 
 Hi Richard,
 
 you can either use rpmdrake (section Media manager - Add new - it is
 selfexplanatory; then go to Install and try to look the gimp2 package)
 or go to console - and do the same thing using urpmi - it is the best to
 read man urpmi. You will need to add new media and then install.
 
 I have not checked whether gimp2 is available at the location above,
 however, this is a general way how to work with urpmi.
 
 Milan
 

 
Thanks for the info Milan but NO I do not know how to set up RPMDrake or
work from a console to that extent, I primarilly work from WinXP Pro.  

I did download the main GIMP 2.01 tar.gz and in the install notes it says
there are about 7 other files I need to download and install the following
files:

1. You need to have installed a recent version of pkg-config available
 from http://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig/.  

  2. You need to have installed GTK+ version 2.2.2 or better. Do not
 try to use an older GTK+ version (1.2.x), it will not work.
 GTK+-2.2 itself needs recent versions of GLib, Pango and ATK.
 Sources for these can be grabbed from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/.
 GTK+-2.x and friends can be installed side by side with GTK+-1.2.

  3. We require PangoFT2, a Pango backend that uses FreeType2. Make sure 
 you have FreeType2 and fontconfig installed before you compile Pango.
 FreeType2 can be downloaded from http://www.freetype.org/.
 Fontconfig from http://x2.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig.

  4. We use libart2. Grab the module libart_lgpl out of GNOME CVS or
 fetch the tarball from
 ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/libart_lgpl/

  5. You may want to install other third party libraries or programs that
 are needed for some of the available plugins. We recommend to check
 that the following libraries are installed: libpng, libjpeg,
 libtiff, gimp-print (4.2.x), gtkhtml-2, libmng, librsvg, libwmf.

That's just nuts.  I guess I will have to wait untill someone actually takes
the time to build an RPM for Mandrake, I just don't have the sort of
patience.  

It's bad enough that Linux doesn't have much to offer in the way of graphic
apps that can do high end professional work but to have one of the only
ones so hard to 'put together' I can't deal with that right now.  

I'm impressed with Mandrake 10 so far but graphics are one of the main
things I do on a computer, so I guess it's back to Windows, not really
complaining, I just don't get too upset much any more.  Maybe in another 5
or 10 years this OS will win me over but in the mean time I have work to
do, over in Windows!

Thanks for the time you took to try to explain things to me, minimally but
that's OK.  I've wasted too many nights pulling out my hair over this
stuff.  I'm an artist not techie person.  If I can't install a workable
version of a needed piece of software without all this extra work then it's
nice to know I have choices on another plateform. 

Cheers

Richard ;-)
 
---Wolff On The Prowl---

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